Obviously, at the age of 50+, games like Grand Theft Auto won't appeal to them as much as Mario. They want something they can buy their grandchildren to play with them. Obviously that wouldn't involve a game containing realistic violence, sexual themes or foul language.WhiteX said:
And no announcements of games from companies like Rockstar. I don't know how everyone else feels, but that right there kills it for me. If I can't get Rockstar titles on it, my interest fades fast.Clements said:
And no announcements of games from companies like Rockstar. I don't know how everyone else feels, but that right there kills it for me. If I can't get Rockstar titles on it, my interest fades fast.
No it werent. It was way more powerful then the PS2, in fact a few games moved above-xbox levels of graphics.Let's not forget the Gamecube was also underpowered compared to competition in it's time, and it didn't do very well. Imagine that.
Since when did it become mandatory for a game console to be a full blown multimedia machine? I don't remember the Megadrive or SNES being the leets of leet at multimedia applications, nor do I remember enjoying a huge library of Video CDs on the Saturn.
And not a single one of those comes close to "GTA material". Their reason for T/M ratings? Violence and suggestive themes (and things of that nature). It's a good start, but it's still too "clean" for my liking.Clements said:
Power doesn't always equal graphics. The PS2 has alot of power that most game devs fail to tap, but every now and then, they do. Take God Of War. I've got my doubts as to whether or not a Gamecube could have pulled it off.Borisz said:
Even Sega CD (the CD attachment for the Megadrive/Genesis, had Audio CD playback, which was a big deal to some people, as CD's were just starting to become mainstream. Video CD's never really caught on, which is why nobody had large collections of them around the Saturn's time, but it still played Audio CD's, which was yet again was a factor in some people's decision to buy it.Borisz said:
One of the biggest gripes that gamers make concerning consoles is their low resolution. PC games have been hi res for years, so it's only natural a console should finally make that move as well. And whether you know it or not, HD IS catching on. As the price of HDTV's goes down (they're not much more than standard def TV's here) and channel's start supporting it, there are people making the move every day. Think DVD is enough? Think HD is hype? If you've ever seen Final Fantasy: Spirits within on DVD, you know it looks pretty good, but it can't compare to these (and keep in mind, these are only 720p, not 1080p):Borisz said:
You'll notice that most people are focussing on those two "buzzwords" when making a console purchase choice.Borisz said:
Question: Why not improve everything at once? Why settle for just improving gameplay, when you can improve the look and features as well? Maybe to cut corners?Borisz said:
Remains to be proven.WhiteX said:
That depends on how adult you want your games to be. If you're talking GTA-type adult, then you can count the Wii out.WhiteX said:
Power doesn't always equal graphics. The PS2 has alot of power that most game devs fail to tap, but every now and then, they do. Take God Of War. I've got my doubts as to whether or not a Gamecube could have pulled it off.
The first set of games on PS2 also sucked (remember how the first Ridge Racer looked on it?)WhiteX said:
GTA4 was announced a long time ago as making it's way on to PS3 and XBOX 360, but of course, not for the Wii.WhiteX said:
Ever seen that movie "Pirates Of Silicon Valley"? There was a line that Steve Joebs said to Bill Gates (comparing Apple to Microsoft): "We're better than you, we have better stuff." Bill's reply: "You don't get it. That doesn't matter." Hopefully you see where I'm going with that.matthew said:
You fail to mention that they were merely add-ons plus this time around, DVD isn't new.Even Sega CD (the CD attachment for the Megadrive/Genesis, had Audio CD playback, which was a big deal to some people, as CD's were just starting to become mainstream. Video CD's never really caught on, which is why nobody had large collections of them around the Saturn's time, but it still played Audio CD's, which was yet again was a factor in some people's decision to buy it.
Why would they? They look just fine.One of the biggest gripes that gamers make concerning consoles is their low resolution. PC games have been hi res for years, so it's only natural a console should finally make that move as well. And whether you know it or not, HD IS catching on. As the price of HDTV's goes down (they're not much more than standard def TV's here) and channel's start supporting it, there are people making the move every day. Think DVD is enough? Think HD is hype? If you've ever seen Final Fantasy: Spirits within on DVD, you know it looks pretty good, but it can't compare to these (and keep in mind, these are only 720p, not 1080p):
Because it costs too much and not everyone has an HDTV. Fancy that. Nintendo actually thinks of keeping the price DOWN which Sony doesn't. Again, fancy that.
Fact is they're there. Doesn't matter if it was the plan to begin with or a last second addition. And DVD may not be new, but HD-DVD and Blu Ray are.Doomulation said:
HDTV's don't cost much more than standard def TV's here nowadays. Can't afford it? That's fine too, PS3 also has standard A/V output for SDTV. As for the screenshots, you only have to take a look at your regular TV to realize it doesn't look like that.Doomulation said:
Gotcha. Somehow high resolution adds to the cost of games. That must mean any company that's ever made a game for the PC is bankrupt by now.Doomulation said:
Wrong. Once again I ignore YOU. Time for you to quit telling people what to do.Doomulation said:
It does matter. Nowadays everyone has a DVD. Then there's also the fact that they do not have the capability built-in, as PS2 / PS3 does.Fact is they're there. Doesn't matter if it was the plan to begin with or a last second addition. And DVD may not be new, but HD-DVD and Blu Ray are.
Well, then either you're lucky or you're looking at the wrong TVs... and for that matter, TVs can be a little expensive when you want something of the high end. We can't all afford it.
So bite me. Explain to me why console manufacturers have more projects for Revolution than 360 / PS3?Gotcha. Somehow high resolution adds to the cost of games. That must mean any company that's ever made a game for the PC is bankrupt by now.
Wrong. Once again I ignore YOU. Time for you to quit telling people what to do.
I'm not sure how this has anything to do with what I mentioned....Doomulation said:
lain: HD isn't the whole point, so I see you've missed it AGAIN. Just to reitterate:Doomulation said:
Just turn on your regular TV to any old channel. Doesn't matter what it is. If you've seen one thing on TV, then you already know the kind of quality picture to expect from it.Doomulation said:
Gee, and they said I was acting childish.Doomulation said:
lain: Perhaps you should have a look at the lineup. Looks like quite a bit of planned titles to me.Doomulation said:
Well excuse me if I think a game company is going to make millions out of a game that they do some work to earn it. But then, if it weren't for console manufacturers raising the bar, games would stilll be very simplistic.Doomulation said:
I could say the same about you.Doomulation said:
Maybe you better re-read what you posted, then... all the CD-playing things were add-ons and the CDs were new at the time. With PS2, the DVD came with the machine and the tech was new at the time.I'm not sure how this has anythign to do with what I mentioned....
Then I will stick with Revolution or any of the old consoles. What's the point of buying a new system if it has nothing to offer over the previous generation?HD isn't the whole point, so I see you've missed it AGAIN. Just to reitterate:
THE GAMES ARE THE WHOLE POINT.
Yes, TV programs look crap because they are sent in crap quality. DVDs look wonderful. That's all I see.Just turn on your regular TV to any old channel. Doesn't matter what it is. If you've seen one thing on TV, then you already know the kind of quality picture to expect from it.
Well dug, have a look at PS3 vs Wii. I know Ubisoft themselves quoted that they support all the three systems equally but the Wii got more planned titles. Why? Because the Wii was easier to develop for and faster!Perhaps you should have a look at the lineup. Looks like quite a bit of planned titles to me.
And what's wrong with simplistic? I find Tetris to be very entertaining, although it is simplistic.
I could say the same about you.
Which is why I pointed out HD-DVD and Blu Ray. Wii is the only one that isn't doing something new.Doomulation said:
Dunno, but if I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's because you won't find new titles on old systems. At least not the hot titles.Doomulation said:
DVD on your PC may look good, but hook it up to a TV and you know the quality is alot lower.Doomulation said:
Faster....hmmm.... does that translate into less effort and quality? It could.Doomulation said:
At this point in time, I'll take the more complex games. And a large portion of the games market would agree with me on that.Doomulation said:
Try 30, and be sure to check that post, it's quoted directly from an episode of Saturday Night Live (which, get this, alot of adults watch :O).Doomulation said:
And note that if you Blu-ray OR HD-DVD you would miss out on one, plus it would increase the price of the system AND make it more likely to break. Oh wait, maybe they should include BOTH? Oh, that's an idea! ...But it's too expensive.Which is why I pointed out HD-DVD and Blu Ray. Wii is the only one that isn't doing something new.
Well, there's plenty of good titles available for now.Dunno, but if I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's because you won't find new titles on old systems. At least not the hot titles.
No, DVD on TV looks great and hey, even a DivX (or XviD? I don't know what it was) looked good too. No problems. No subpar quality.DVD on your PC may look good, but hook it up to a TV and you know the quality is alot lower.
In your imagination, yes. It means developers can do the same as on other systems in less amount of time.
Don't be so sure. In the future, it will probably take 5 years to get a new title. Or wait, 10 years! Is that how you want it? Oooh... maybe we'll have to pay a little more to play our games, like Grand Turismo! Yes! Isn't that wonderful? Well, get used to it - because that's what's happening because of Sony and Microsoft's approach.At this point in time, I'll take the more complex games. And a large portion of the games market would agree with me on that.
Yes, idiots who didn't get a proper childhood. Like you. They have preconceptions about everything that doesn't match their way of doing things. Like those who bully people on the school yard. People who cannot see past their own way of thinking. I'll stay away from such retarded places, thank you very much.
Ahhh, so just because it's not DVD/CD, means it's more likely to break. Funny thing is, with all it's problems, the Dreamcast (which used a new format) had less problems with it's drive than anything else. Ironic, isn't it? And for some people, that time is now. People have been buying HDTV's now for a couple years, why have a game that can't put that shiny new TV to good use?Doomulation said:
That will only last so long....Doomulation said:
Wrong again. DVD doesn't magically make the TV's resolution any better. It's 640x480 interlaced, no matter what's being played on it.Doomulation said:
Yeah, because they've had so much practice at making those same games last generation, they don't need to learn to use new technology. There's just one drawback: that makes the Wii have NOTHING but a gimmicky controller over the Gamecube.Doomulation said:
Given the price of the disc is like $1, you don't lose much with Gran Turismo HD. Nobody says you have to buy EVERYTHING available.Doomulation said:
And you remind me of those holier than though, stuck up, prissy girls that nobody liked in school.Doomulation said:
It won't happen, because the games I want are already slated for release on PS3.Doomulation said:
You can find his original post here.Nevertank Fuuzeeoon said:ONCE UPON A TIEM I WENT TO GET A WII. I WAITED LIKE 10 HOUZR LIKE IN FRONT OF WALMART AND PEPLZ WERE LIKE OMG U ALONE AND I WAS LIKE NO LOL THUR 3 PPLZ IN FRONT OF MAE. of courz there been alout of pplz afterwads. It wuz liek -6 celcius and I was like brrrrr it is le cold! omg omg!
I bought red steel and zulda and another game control0rz
it is fun but not what i thought it would bae.. it ok I buy a 65 inch tv to be happae agin
In case you read properly, then you would know that new technology tend to break more likely than old technology. Have you seen any blu-ray or hd-dvd player out there that plays its discs flawlessly? And is the hardware not bulky and heavy?
Well, I'm not talking about the quality of the VIDEO, but the quality my EYES see. And they're all the same to me.Wrong again. DVD doesn't magically make the TV's resolution any better. It's 640x480 interlaced, no matter what's being played on it.
No, it adds a little more horsepower. And hey, what does PS3 have over its previous generation? Horsepower? The Rev has that too, you know... and that "gimmicky" controller is very nice (and fun) as you've heard from some people here who posted their impressions.Yeah, because they've had so much practice at making those same games last generation, they don't need to learn to use new technology. There's just one drawback: that makes the Wii have NOTHING but a gimmicky controller over the Gamecube.
You have so little when you buy the game. And the rest you have to purchase seperately and it adds up.Given the price of the disc is like $1, you don't lose much with Gran Turismo HD. Nobody says you have to buy EVERYTHING available.
Who said they should live?And you remind me of those holier than though, stuck up, prissy girls that nobody liked in school.
lain: Both groups should disappear.I'm not saying it will, but what IF. Hypothetically speaking. Why don't you just answer the question?It won't happen, because the games I want are already slated for release on PS3.
You should know that I will not venture to GE anymore, and you could probably figure out why...As a side note, this little tidbit comes from a Wii owner that posted his opinion about the console at General Emulation. Now keep in mind, Nevermore (maker of this post) is a neutral party, and isn't even aware that I'm sharing this with any of you.:
You can find his original post here.
No offense to the guy who made the original post, but I can't stand people who can't communicate in a mature way. How would anyone take his opinion seriously when he can't even spell half the stuff he is typing (even if intentional). Sorry but that wouldn't exactly be my star witness when trying to prove a point.As a side note, this little tidbit comes from a Wii owner that posted his opinion about the console at General Emulation. Now keep in mind, Nevermore (maker of this post) is a neutral party, and isn't even aware that I'm sharing this with any of you.:
You can find his original post here.
