That's why I only go to the afternoon matinée; usually a week after a film's release. Any more than a handful of people in the theater is too crowded for me.2fast4u said:actually more disturbing than the movie was the flock of 15 year olds in front of me who couldnt keep their head still and/or shut the hell up during the movie.
sytaylor said:i think theres so much most people miss in this movie.. theres a lot mroe depth than many will see, which is unfortunate
2fast4u said:actually more disturbing than the movie was the flock of 15 year olds in front of me who couldnt keep their head still and/or shut the hell up during the movie.
Macca said:Alright here's a big one... you have to think in terms of computers and programming for this one (and for lots of this movie that involves the machines especially). Programs don't die, number one. Everytime smith copied himself he simply inserted his code into another program and controlled that program.... but the ORIGIONAL still exists. This is why the oracle came back.. she wasn't dead or destroyed, just her code was buried in that of Smiths. SOOOO neo let his program (the program of the one remember from Matrix reloaded) be taken over by Smith... then he, the deux ex Machina (the talking machine dude who represents the voice of the machines - which is the architect talking, did anyone notice?? ) and the oracle all combined their energy to destroy Smith from the inside out .. just like in Matrix orig. Is neo dead? Well personally I think he was sacraficed as a savior -- very Christlike. Like Christ, being reborn is certainly a possibilitiy (after all he came back to life in the first movie didn't he???) so whether he's dead or not dead is rather irrelevant becuase even if he IS the movie has shown that it is possible for him to come back to life... so that is certainly a possibility if he died. Also keep in mind that Neo is THE ONE and the one is only a program (of which there have been 6 different verisions). THerefore, if Neo the human dies, the program for the one certainly may still exist in the machine databases. Sequel anyone???
WHY was it impossible for Smith to win in the end?
Remember when the oracle told Neo that he couldn't see past the choices that he didn't understand? Smith kept asking Neo WHY this Why that... he didn't understand Neo or his choice or what he had to do.... Neo did. Becuase he understood, he was able to make his choices, proceed (with the alliances of the machines to destroy Smith who was only interested in The INevitable... who did not believe in choice, only purpose.
Gigahurtz said:IMO, I thought the movie was very good, expecially during the "war time". The movie kept me anticiapted for how the humans could win the war and there were some other small surprises in the movie that I wouldn't have predicted as well
aprentice said:And to the people who complained about this thread
being a spoiler, you deserve it for being so dumb
I havent even opened this thread all week until now,
after i've seen the movie. Noone has spoiled it for me,
I enjoyed the movie, and its all good
I think the movie was rather good, and the action
scenes keep getting more intense with every sequel.
If you haven't seen it, you should still go, even
if its just for the action scenes or to say you've
seen it![]()
AlphaWolf said:just watched the movie, I thought it was great.
This guy obviously didn't pay any attention to when the oracle said that neo and smith are exact negatives of each other, and that eventually they will cancel each other out; in other words both of them will be gone, deceased, nada. Funny because I felt I didn't understand the whole thing, yet I cought that one just fine.
Xade said:Maybe somebody has already pointed out this, rather massive, flaw, but... I can't be bothered to read on.
Simply put, machines have no conscience. Thus, upon our hero's valiant victory over Agent Smith, saving them from the virus, I'm pretty sure that they would have no qualms with destroying the human race there and then. A done deed, the machines live on without any further 'resistance'. The end.
Peace between humans and machines? Riiiiight, and I suppose the machines haven't spent the past few hundred years trying to get rid of the humans in question, have they?
A lot of people have shouted at me for spoiling the film for them with that one, after they've seen it, but it's just too big a story problem to simply ignore.
Dear oh dear.