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jvolel

Destoryer of worlds
Jesse said:
My guess is that Nintendo is trying to hype up yet another silly release. For their sake i hope its good because Microsoft and Sony Playstation are really making a killing in the market. Hopefully Nintendo pulls the trump card and makes their popular titles available on other platforms whether through a third party or by using its own brand. Thats just my thought though I'm not an XBox or PS2 fanboy, but so far the games on Gamecube dont really do it for me.

i hear ya, me my self ive been a nintendo fan for years almost all the consoles i ever bought (after the atari and commador) where nintendo consoles, up untll now, i have a ps2(which is messed up due to my tampering with mod chips (DOH!) the reset button does reset or turn off anymore ??? ) anyway nintendo seems to have lost there magic as of late.
 

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
You know, you realy have to begin to question nintendos ethnics. The only few console games that have interested me recently are: The Terminator: Dawn of Fate, Conflict: Desert Storm, gta3, and the metal gear franchise. Guess which of the three modern day consoles they aren't being released for? I can't help but wonder why this is.

Perhapse somebody could shed some light on this?
 

Macca

New member
why bother bring it out on gc when they are available to so many other platforms?

Gta 3 for example, its released on a few systems but no matter if i owned them all i would still go for the pc version, even if it were on gc, the pc version would whoop it. Don't get me wrong, gta3 is a fucking awesome game which i am addicted to atm on my pc but as i said, if it were on gc, i would not be buying.

Metal Gear Franchise - is that the best you can come up with? i mean the psx game was decent, the ps2 version wasn't great, and you are eagerly awaiting the next games? Well, i guess its your choice of games.

Terminator - no idea about this game so i just won't comment, may look it up later.

Conflict - After some quick reseach, i found that again you have mentioned a muli-platform game and looking at the reviews on the net, not one to rush out and buy. IGN - 7.7 (XBOX), Gamespot 4.5 (PS2) 4.8 (XboX) Again, if i had the choice on which system to get it, again the pc would be the go, but again, this game has been done so many times.

I pose this question, what would you rather on a console, Games which have been done so many times before and appear on multiple platforms including pc (Gta3, Metal Gear) or higly original/groundbreaking games (pikmin, Animal crossing) games exclusive to one system.
 

gokuss4

Meh...
i have a feeling it might have to do with FF11 or a remade version of FF10 on the GC, who knows? for all i know it could be E-Reader stuff where you plugin your GBA to the GC, and there will be games for the gc that support the gba e-reader stuff for cards to put in secret characters or secret other stuff. or it could be just zelda, or Metroid Prime, who knows? only ninty and the shadow knows... it might even be Yu-Gi-Oh! related, that anime is #1 in Japan, and is my favorite anime besides DBZ atm. its popular in the u.s.a to with its card games, its popular over in europe to. lol
 

Raging Fuel

The jumbles man, the jumbles
AlphaWolf said:
You know, you realy have to begin to question nintendos ethnics. The only few console games that have interested me recently are: The Terminator: Dawn of Fate, Conflict: Desert Storm, gta3, and the metal gear franchise. Guess which of the three modern day consoles they aren't being released for? I can't help but wonder why this is.

Perhapse somebody could shed some light on this?

Nintendo enthics? :p

But really, you should play more games, because I notice another thing all those games have in common. They are all based around killing people. Open your gaming horizons, the games you mentioned may (and in the case of gta3 and mgs1, are) fun, but there are other games out there that are just as fun that don't rely purely on killing.
 

Jaz

Ex-Mod
Macca said:
Terminator - no idea about this game so i just won't comment, may look it up later.

Well, it's a film franchise, so that should about tell you how bad it'll be. :p
 

Jaz

Ex-Mod
Raging Fuel said:
They are all based around killing people.

I'd say that around 90% of non-Sport or driving games involve killing something..

Which I'm not sure is a good or bad thing. :blush:
 

Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
Shall I point out that GTA3 isn't coming to the `Cube because Sony threw lots of money Rockstars way during development to "secure" the game as an exclusive..? Not a lot that could be done about that really. There are rumblings of MGS (possibly the most overrated series ever unless you like cut scenes. A lot. And are thus Square.)coming out, but it'd be no great loss like any of the worthwhile NGC titles are.

* crhylove thinks dude takes all this stuff way too seriously. we're talking about games here. but yeah, fan boyism does get annoying, especially when it's just plain UNDEFENDABLE as in stalkid's xbox hatred.
I've defended it numerous times. It simply is rapidly becoming a huge flop in Japan and Europe, and is in 3rd place behind PS2 and NGC in Japan (wasn't GBA even outselling it at one point?)
Why? Because people aren't buying it. Why? Because aside from the ugly design, damn uncomfortable controller, and MAME project aside there are no real must-buy games even due out. You call Simpsons Road Rage - universally acknowledged limited-appeal Crazy Taxi rip off from franchise merchants EA - a good game? Go out and play Crazy Taxi 2 for the DC and see how it should be done.
but yeah, nintendo will put out better games than MS will. MS doesn't have an einstein in their xbox dev dept. nintendo does.
You accept that Nintendo will have the best quality games... but the XBox is still better? How exactly does that work right as a games console?
XBox is failing miserably to do anything, even after the price cut. That's factual evidence that it isn't good. I've played it many times as part of my work, and still do on occasion, but I don;t choose to play it in my free time because I don't rate any of the games highly at all. That's what an informed opinion is based on, factual evidence backing up personal experience.
One year on, the thing still has exactly one "great" game. One year on, Microsoft are finally realising something is wrong that it isn't selling. And it ain't piracy as much as they try to blame that. Their solution of buying up established developers shows that point rather well - a point that Microsoft have obviously accepted themselves, and good on them for that part of it. They haven't made any great games, or attracted anyone who has as of yet. But Microsoft buys Rare and as little as a week later the world shrugs indifferently. A year is a long time in the life of a console, as the N64 showed. Microsoft should have worked more on getting games together for the `Box. They didn't. They sat back, counted their money and said "Hey, lets throw this all on advertising and let others make the games! It worked for the PS didn't it?". Nintendo on the other hand focus as always on the games, because they know that's what will make them money. Deny that if you can.
I'm still waiting for any evidence at all that demonstrates the XBox is a viable worthwhile console after one year. I had that within a month for my DreamCast. Even for my Atari Jaguar.
Again, and apparently unconrovertably if this lack of any factual evidence for the Xbox cause continues, I give you... "The XBox Problem" [t.m.]
 

RatTrap

GODLIKE
i don't bother arguing.. it's like i said b4.. i'll just lol at the ppl who trully believe the x-box is doing good.. you guys probably haven't been reading reviews&checking out the news or the numbers in the market :p.. i almost bought an xbox when it came out.. one month after that.. i almost bought one again.. i was just waiting for 1 game that would make me want to buy it.. just 1 freaken good original game.. know what i ended up doing?.. i bought me a bunch of new hardware for my PC instead.. i just could'nt find a reasonably good game that i trully wanted to play.. maybe it'll change now with rare on the xbox side but since rare are known to release 1 game every 1 year or so.. i'm not sure it's worth it anymore.. if you've read posts of mine b4.. you know i'm no MS hater or anything like that.. on the contrari.. i find what MS has donne for the whole internet a true addition.. so you can't really say i'm not liking xbox coz i prefer GC..

as for the most ridicules thing i've ever heard.. and i do flat out call it that.. because really man.. this type of atitude has got to stop: i read chryloves post on the other thread..

d00d.. your atitude towards companies not getting their moneys worth.. and saying $50 is abit too much.. calling it a stranglehold.. etc etc.. that atitude is just SO not justified.. you have to think about these companies wich you download and pirate games from.. you think a massive piracy skeem or a petition will make companies drop game prizes?.. you probably believe they make so much money.. they all don't.. imagine this scenario..

blizzard (known to make good sales off their games).. decides to drop prices to $20 (like they are asking at the cut-game-prizes-petition forum).. ok.. so blizzard might be able to handle this price cut.. but imagine the smaller game companies.. will they have to work for free?.. and if you believe the company CEO's are the ones who will get their sallaries cut.. then your wrong.. they will start at the bottom.. and make less good games then what your expecting them to do.. the hype will still be as big.. just the quality will lose.. not only that.. you'll probably see smaller games and less creative ppl working making good games.. because with prize cuts comes shorter dealines.. less money to pay everyone with.. etc.. the whole process is long but the end result is bad games..

if you create something like a game of good quality.. and then everyone leeches it off the net.. do you really think it feels that great?.. it's like the ppl you created the game for have no respect for you.. and are just simply robbing.. instead of creating this feeling in game companies.. we need to make them known that we like their games.. their achivements are art to them (to me aswell.. i find many games to feel like true works of art).. and that we don't all leech things off the net.. we need to show them respect.. not disrespect.. this is what brings systems like palladin forth.. a way to make us stop doings things that hurt them.. the tools will allways be there to leech though.. i doubt it very much that palladium will stop it completly.. to hack.. to get things for free.. to copy.. but it's your own restraint that makes you chose wich way you wanna go..

if you don't have much money.. buy the game you like.. and be happy with the way life is.. downloading it is like stealing money and going to buy the game.. only your screwing someone else instead of the game company.. when i was younger and poor.. i would save for months just to buy that 1 game.. if that game wasn't as good as i expected it to be.. too bad.. i could allways trade it with a friend.. or sell it.. but eather way you see it.. your atitude towards gaming companies and cuting prizes in half is just ridicules.. and completly uncalled for.. you should be thankfull.. not bitch about how prizes are so high.. because in reality.. they aren't.. the $ prize has gonne up considerably since the first NES.. and back then.. the games where about the same prize they are now.. in reality.. they HAVE been cut.. they should cost around $80 now.. not still be at the same price they where 10 years ago..
 

UltraThing

New member
RatTrap's right about that ... I can remember Atari2600 carts were $30 and $40 back in 1980, and doing the dog years thing I'd say youre talking about $80 at least in today's money. When the Atari 2600 came out it was $299.99 and youre talking almost 25 years ago .... that was truly a lot of money then.


Look this thread is about the bomb Nintendo's supposed to be dropping, so here's my thoughts. I was 18 when the NES came out and I can't remember Nintendo ever really shocking people with a hardware or software release. There was always some hype or leaks. That's just good business. So if there truly is something up Nintendo's sleeve, its going to be corporate news, like many have suggested here. A merger or acquisition.

But I seriously doubt that there even is any such thing planned. THis all started from some quote in a japanese magazine, not from anything Nintendo's announced. And has anyone considered that the quote from the japanese mag is almost definitely a TRANSLATION>>>????? Japanese is a tough language to translate and the choice of words can make huge differences.

Nintendo may not have anything "nuclear" planned at all, just some great games being released over the next few months ... Metroid & Zelda and so on. But now with this rumor being spread to every gaming webboard on the internet they're going to be backed up against the wall by a bunch of made up bullshit. I mean if the guys at Nintendo don't have a clue what this "big announcement" thing is all about I bet they are efinitely crapping their pants right now. Kinda funny really, but what's not fair is that then when there is no gargantuan monstrous announcement coming from big N, all the kiddies that heard it was going to happen will point at Nintendo and blame them for not delivering on their promise. Kinda makes you wonder if Bill Gates made it all up.
 

Tri-Force

Philosopher Warrior
N is great. X-Box sucks ACCORDING TO THE NUMBERS I SEE (I sell all three consoles and x boxes dont move anywhere near as fast as PS2's or Game Cubes) we still have the same boxes we got LAST CHRISTMASS in the warehouse for the x box. i again say that i am willing to bet that the major "news" is a bumped up release date or the announcement of a another remake (maybe the E3 2K1 Zelda ???) but don't argue like a bunch of haters talking about your 1337 collection of the 2 good xbox games (that are exclusive) and how much PS2 owns joo and crap like that because it is REALLY getting old. and so is the term Fan boy. its dumb and over used and you just throw it out there when someone proves you wrong and you want to make them look stupid or something. so lets kill it all right?

also, the reason for releasing games on EVERY platform is obvious and if you cant see it then i cant help you Macca. but i'll give you a hint $$$ not for the the console company but for the game company. because not everyone is 1337 enough to own all the systems. and some of us loyalists have our favoriate system and dont care to play the xboxes exclusive "odd world" or "Buffy" but really like to play Zelda and Mario so we stick with the N knowing that other games will also be on our system.
 

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
Raging Fuel said:

They are all based around killing people.

I mainly like games that have a good rich storyline (which, ironicaly, its mostly killing games and role playing games that do this), and games where you can kinda freestyle (gta3 and counterstrike). Puzzle and platform games tend to bore the crap out of me, thus far the metroid games are about the only exception to this.

GC has only one good role playing game, and thats phantasy star online, which I already have for PC. It doesn't have anything else I would want except for maybe the coming metroid game (possibly the new RPG from square, but we'll see about that), but IMO buying the console just for that is just plain nuts, on top of the fact that most of nintendos best 3rd party developers haven't shown any plans to release anything decent for that console.

nes was good, snes was very good, but n64 realy lost it for me, so I never bought one. In the end there were a *few* somewhat good games, which is what interests me about n64 emulators. Yeah I know, just downloading em and playing em doesn't help the developers, but buying them off of ebay wont help either, plus I rarely play them *shrug*.
 
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Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
maybe the E3 2K1 Zelda
Oh dear god please... let's just not go there again. Please? ;)
MS bought Rare because Nintendo didn't want them due to their rather silly internal structuring which results in all the extreme delays and development times (I believe NGC or Edge mention that N were out to ditch Rare long before this came up), and Activision rejected their asking price too. So, MS have ended up with a company rejected by two very big publishers. Smart move that, huh?
Now, just imagine how long re-devving (new word bonus there?!) PD0 will take... how much it'll work miserably with the XBox's pad (lets face it, even on the NGC pad it wouldn't have worked half as well as on the N64 pad)... the fact that only three `renders` of it have been seen at all since sw2k... Hold on, PD0 is the `Metroid Prime` of the XBox dev world then going by that. ;)
(Although my bets are `Prime will be 1337ness itself in the end comparisons).
Microsoft attempts to shake the world and XBox's fortunes by buying Rare. The world shrugs indifferently.

EDIT: I felt a hearty LOL@Microsoft was missing here. ;)
 
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Stezo2k

S-2K
Rocketman_mab said:
I think the XBOX is going to surprise us. MS bought RARE and CAPCOM for a reason. We'll see.

u seem to like the xbox quite a lot........

when did they buy capcom? that was just a roumour

/me hints to some1 to close this thread
 
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United-Realm

New member
what you xbox lovers dont realise is it was confirmed that M$ Will stop developing the games & system after 2004 so wuts tha point???

@ least nintendo have made a promise to still make games for the GC till 2008 :D

as for the ps2,........i`m not even get started,ps3 comes out in 2005......i wont buy one!!!
 
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Sukh

Long gone...
uhmm well it's amazing how my threads can veer off course. The amount of inaccuracies in this thread is simply amazing. For starters, as previously stated, there is no proof what soever that Microsoft are buying or even neogotiating to buy Capcom. Secondly, Microsoft has certainly not said they will stop making games/consoles in 2004 - quite frankly, the opposite.

Please, only contribute if you're not flaming, and you have something worthwhile to say.
 

RatTrap

GODLIKE
actually.. those are rumors.. MS hasn't really made an official presentation.. like they allways do about their marketing-moves.. so i would'nt really expect them to stop at 2004.. on the contrary.. i bet they'll put in more money for XBox 2 and make sure both boxes are backwards and foreward compatible.. what i do know is that they intend to start selling a new pack.. with keyboard+mouse+modem/nic.. so basicly.. their next move is to turn in a gameing apple-type machine.. like you'll use an imac for graphics and things like that.. i guess what they wan't is for ppl to use an x-box for gaming and things like that.. and be able to do a litle more..

this isn't a bad marketing move though.. alot of ppl just need a system that will let them check emails.. surf.. pay stuff thru the net.. watch dvd movies.. and then be able to play a bunch of games.. if the x-box can handle all of this.. it'll probably become pretty popular.. and could raise from it's grave.. but.. this kind of thing has been tried b4.. without success.. so we can't really be sure.. but the diference now is.. this company is huge.. and have SO much money.. they might be the ones who manage to do it.. but what i'm thinking is.. at what cost.. eather way.. if it does cost them a whole bunch of money.. they won't have much of a problem with it.. because their so way over + allready..

on the other hand.. Nintendo is allways concentrating on gaming.. they don't think about these other things.. and this is why they usually will get the best results.. also they even test games from other companies.. make sure the quality is as good as Nintendo promises.. other consoles don't do this.. so.. nintendo has that edge.. they don't try to please everyone.. but the ppl they please.. they please VERY well..

the ps2 is another story entirelly.. they have a diferent atitude towards gaming.. to them it's more of what's "in".. then what's new and fresh and good for the company.. i don't know if this is due to the CEO's decisions.. the company itself.. or the atitude or guidelines that Sony lives by.. simple example.. they put in alot of power into the PS2.. because it was in.. everyone was talking about how many gigaflops this or that new processor could do.. IBM was showing their latest procs at shows.. and so was SGI.. and Cyrix.. and pffft.. so many others.. what they did was just grab what looked best in the market.. but didn't trully think of what was missing from the PS1.. can you say.. antialiasing 10 times really fast?.. that's just one thing.. but there's more.. not to talk about the OS and bios in the ps2.. wich had several fixed versions untill late last year..

as for what this "anouncement/rumour" they made in Famitsu jap magazine.. the thing with that mag is.. that's probably the most respected game mag in all of japan.. somehow i doubt they would be saying anything about something new and excityng from the big N if it wasn't true.. but that i know of.. there doing SO many new things latelly.. it's trully very dificult to tell wich one of these things it is their aiming at.. maybe they'll release everything at the same time and pay the jap gov to name the day of release for all their new stuff "Nintendo Day"? lol..

that i know of.. they have 7 big projects going on.. i think i know wich one they are aiming at in that magazine.. but i'm not sure.. it could just be that Mr Tsushin Hamamura got sooo exited he felt like saying something was bout to happen.. and he might have meant all of these things :)..

oh btw.. today i heard Rare where in the Famitsu talk show with Dell and Nvidia ppl.. to anounce the FFXI Windows version.. not comming out yet but that they would release 2 versions for windows(CDROM & DVD?..) and that both ps2 and windows gamers would be able to play in the same servers..

btw.. preliminary date for that is 9th of nov :p..

that's in japan of course..
 
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