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Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
Anyone who can call Pikmin half-baked obviously has little clue what they're talking about... anyone who can say the GameCube controller is uncomfortable in any way must have similar issues... anyone who thinks Animal Leader isn't something new and interesting I'd worry about seriously.
(Go on, someone else call him an XBox fanboy or something so we can get our war... I can't be arsed anymore ;))
C`mon, it's like run-up-to-Xmas/Yule tradition and so on...
 

Jaz

Ex-Mod
Stalkid64 said:
(Go on, someone else call him an XBox fanboy or something so we can get our war... I can't be arsed anymore ;))

*rotflol*

Dude, XBox totally kicks ass.

/sarcasm mode off. :p
 

Raging Fuel

The jumbles man, the jumbles
AlphaWolf said:
Raging Fuel said:

You don't know anyone who plays 1080? And maybe no one plays Doshin and Animal Leader because they haven't been released outside Japan yet, but Doshin will, and maybe Animal Leader. Admittedly Doshin has almost no hope of selling well, its just not a mass appeal game.

And anyway, you didn't say that only old Nintendo franchises sold well, you said that Nintendo had no motivation to move beyond them. Nintendo are moving beyond these old franchises, its the consumers who won't.

I don't realy call those titles moving beyond though, they are half baked at best.

Well I completely disagree with you there. IMO Pikmin is one of the greatest games I have ever played, and even if you disagree with that, I can't understand how you could see it as a half-baked game. There is a hell of a lot to Pikmin, an entire new world is created and throughout playing it I was finding out new things I didn't know before. Seriously, give Pikmin a chance. If you play for more than 5 mins you will found that it is one of the most deep and well designed games ever made.

I haven't played Animal Crossing yet, because it hasn't been released in my country, but I can tell that Animal Crossing is not just some game that Nintendo pulled out in 2 weeks. The translation of the game from jap to eng took over 9 months, just imagine how long the rest of the game would have taken to make. Putting so much effort into a game shows that Nintendo do want to make new ideas.
 

blizz

New member
AlphaWolf said:
I don't realy call those titles moving beyond though, they are half baked at best.

half baked, of course, being a technical term used only by those in the know, and Halo so moves the stagnant FPS genre along doesn't it
 

Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
"Yeah... B-but... it's Halo! You know..? It's all we got man... p-please, no more! Don't diss Halo any more... w-we couldn't take it! Please!"
An N64 was worth buying for Mario 64 at the start. An N64 was worth buying again in its future for Goldeneye or Zelda TOoT or MM, perhaps even Perfect Dark and Conker. A DC was worth buying for Sega Rally, or Bass Fishing, or in its future Ferrari or Shenmue. A GameCube is worth buying for Mario Sunshine. A GameCube is worth buying for Monkey Ball, or Rogue Leader (perhaps). And that will be added to in the soon-future with Zelda, Metroid and others. An XBox is really NOT worth buying for Halo - one single, not very inventive game. And that great list will be added to with... er, Halo 2. See?
Again ladies and gentlemen, I give you... "The XBox Problem" [t.m.]
Now... back to the Shine-Get`ing.
 

DuDe

Emu64 Staff
Halo may not be inventive or anything, but it was fun non the less.

And frankly, this fanboyish bullshit is starting to piss me off. If you people can`t have a decent discussion without going into "oh, my console is better than yours, bla bla bla", and "you suck because you have console x/y/z", then you won`t be having those discussions at all. Wanna test me? Another one of those kiddie fanboy crap, and this thread gets deleted.
 

blizz

New member
DuDe said:
Halo may not be inventive or anything, but it was fun non the less.

And frankly, this fanboyish bullshit is starting to piss me off. If you people can`t have a decent discussion without going into "oh, my console is better than yours, bla bla bla", and "you suck because you have console x/y/z", then you won`t be having those discussions at all. Wanna test me? Another one of those kiddie fanboy crap, and this thread gets deleted.

let me dissect this

fanboyish bullshit? yes, wtf did you expect, proper conversation about the pro's and con's of trying to perfect a genre or trying to establish a new gaming genre, let alone the pros and cons of each console's particular hardware design, hell I know people from gaming companies who spend they're entire time wanking off over the X-Box and how "powerful" it is, the same people did it for the PS2 aswell,

There's Sarcasm too though, and if you can't catch that then you obviously haven't been reading it, but I'll forgive you that, since English may not be you first language, and you probably learnt it from an American

and if you want to be a mod, delete this thread then, fine but you could be more useful by moving gaming related threads to the "Gaming Forum" strange concept that no? and yeah I was going to post my "Gamecube List" thread in the gaming forum but I thought to myself,

"Why bother it doesn't really matter now does it? It's only a bit of fun since they're only games." ;)
 
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RatTrap

GODLIKE
quite frankly.. this has become the "gaming forum".. this is talk of the town of emulation64.. and what would you expect most in here?.. it says nowhere that you aren't aloud to talk gaming&consoles in here.. on the contrary.. i feel that sort of thing should be encouraged..

also.. i feel it's alright for ppl to have these wars.. as long as they don't get out of hand.. and turn into flaming wars.. but if someone budds in and don't know what his talking about but just thinks out loud or thinks&types b4 checking facts.. then if that person gets flamed.. well.. that i feel is completly their own fault.. and i see no reason to delete a thread because someone makes a -half baked- comment about something.. i'm not gonna name any names ;) ..

as long as the thread is kept sane.. i see no reason why delete a discussion.. but i do feel that some ppl should be warned sometimes :p.. like give em a yellow card then a red card or sumthing like that.. to bad we don't have a warning system in ET..
 

DuDe

Emu64 Staff
blizz said:

fanboyish bullshit? yes, wtf did you expect, proper conversation about the pro's and con's of trying to perfect a genre or trying to establish a new gaming genre

Yes. Sarcasm or no sarcasm, but that`s exactly what I expect. If people in here are smart enough to write a 1000 or so words post about how a certain game is l33t, and why some console owners are somehow better than others, then they are smart enough to write a fucking constructive post as well.

blizz said:

"There's Sarcasm too though, and if you can't catch that then you obviously haven't been reading it, but I'll forgive you that, since English may not be you first language, and you probably learnt it from an American"
Heh.

blizz said:

and if you want to be a mod, delete this thread then, fine but you could be more useful by moving gaming related threads to the "Gaming Forum" strange concept that no?
Or maybe, just maybe, our fine users should learn the interesting principle of posting threads in the place where they belong?
 
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blizz

New member
DuDe said:
Or maybe, just maybe, our fine users should learn the interesting principle of posting threads in the place where they belong?

nah that's overestimating them ;)
 

Macca

New member
/me looks up the meaning of discussion :p

Maybe we should change this to a gentlymanly chat amongsts felllow peoples?

/me offers tea and bickies :p

i wouldn't be expecting much different from us than what you're getting Dude
 

Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
It's worked for us for a good couple of years. Why should we change now when we're still enjoying it? :p
"If people in here are smart enough to write a 1000 or so words post about how a certain game is l33t, and why some console owners are somehow better than others, then they are smart enough to write a fucking constructive post as well"
Er... if we're smart enough to write a 1000 or so word post which proves what we're saying, how is the not constructive? Just curious because, for example, I write these "review things" sometimes for Martin, as do others on occasion. A review is nothing if not constructive criticism with justification, and I really don't get how applying said writing skill to posts affects things other than further the discussion. Surely a long intelligent post is preferrable to, say, "Yeah, but that game sucks because it has poor graphics" or are we `dumbing down` Emulation 64's boards now? Sorry, we're mostly intelligent people here and we like our discussions how they are.

Incidentally most of these critical posts the `regular`loyal members have been making ARE constructive. We state opinions, observations and offer comments based on personal preference and back it up with facts. Talk of the town has as far back as I can remember always been about debate. What is debate if not that? The boards are becoming exceedingly fragmented as it is lately with all the additions, focusing on narrower subjects such as specific emulators, which are populated with specific groups all the time.
Talk of the town is the best forum for debate since most regular members find there way in here, and saying "ooh, it mentions a game or two - get this in the Gaming forum" misses the point of that. Limiting the audience is a stupid idea really, as I said when I started the SMS thread.
Admittedly this very thread has strayed from the initial debate, but at least it comes along a logical path. If someone posted a thread every time they would stray slightly from the topic, the board would be swamped, nothing would ever get discussed the way it deserves, and boredom with a nice helping of useless, pointless topics would occur. So I think we'll continue our debates, expressing things in detail with word-counts as high as we need to justify what we're saying.
After all, how are we supposed to discuss things otherwise? Go the UK's Official Nintendo Magazine route and simply say "this game rules 'cos the graphics are brill and has wicked gameplay!" (pointless but short), or to actually explain WHY we reached that conclusion which does require word use (sometimes a good read and elaborated)? People may learn something that way, see?

I really don't see how you can criticise long posts of explanation as not being constructive, when the alternative is... short posts where you haven't the chance to explain anything. How would that alternative be more constructive?
The question stands ready...
 

ra5555

N64 Newbie
AlphaWolf said:
crhylove said:
nintendo will continue to own the hand held sector.

someone will finish cxbx, and everyone will go out and buy computers with dvd burners.

nothing to see here, move on now.

who likes a console anyway? the only cool thing about ANY console in my mind is that one day it might get EMULATED!

w00t. /me loves emulation.

Thats pretty much the way im seeing things. Xbox will probably be the last good console before PCs take over the gaming market, they have slowly but surely been doing so. Once PCs are convenient enough (only a matter of time), they will replace consoles entirely.

Sorry to tell you, but THE PC GAMING MARKET IS EXTREMELY SMALL CoMPARED TO THE CONSOLE MARKET. That is why most games are for consoles.
 

Harteex

Harteex das Brot
Stalkid:
It's your fanboy posts that aren't constructive. I would be happy if you could stop being a fanboy, at least for a while...
 

Stalkid64

Citizen(sixty)four
Define "fanboy". I keep missing this somehow... I love most DC games, I love certain PS games, I love some NES and SNES games, I love certain PC games, I love most NGC games, I love GBA games, I love Virtual Boy games, I love some Atari 2600 games, I love some Saturn games, I love certain Atari Jaguar games... I could go on but oops, there goes the fanboy argument already. I'm supposedly so loyal to Nintendo but - hey, I own so many rival consoles I must be a traitor!
If I'm any kind of fanboy, it's of great games in general... and Nintendo so happens to make the best games most often, because they put the most effort in and it shows. If you don't want to accept the proven fact that Nintendo do that most consistantly, a fact which even most rival games companies admit freely, that's not my problem really. I couldn't care less what system a great game is on. My favourite developer right now happens to be the one giving me the most games worth my time, which is Nintendo. A few months ago, it was Sega easily. If you don't like posts which justify choices and show how I or anyone else reached our conclusions, or even look at another viewpoint there is a really simple answer. Don't read them.
But then, not listening and closing your ears to what others are saying would make you a fanboy, right? So read, listen, make an informed opinion, but don't leave it at that. Keep listening and learning, or you'll miss so many great games.
I've heard a lot of "Halo is great! blah blah blah XBox is gonna take over everything!" but no evidence or even justifications that support these arguments other than "It's good" level mutterings. I would be happy if you (or anyone else) would at least try to see whats being said, at least for a while... but all I've seen are instant dismissals usually based on graphics or brand.
 

tbag

New member
Perhaps they are going to release perhaps Harvest Moon NGC or Chrono Trigger NGC or maybe even AstroBoy NGC lol

Perhaps a price drop?

Oh but wait Starcraft: Ghost :)
 

crhylove

Banned
stalkid has a point, kind of, but he's obviously anti xbox for some reason other than the merits of the xbox. there are many great games on xbox, i've played them. and it plays some games BETTER than rival consoles... simpson's road rage comes to mind (i've played it on all 3 systems), and xbox is a clear winner. the main thing i'm mad about though is :

http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=83744#post83744

(my last quote).

and as for the merits of discussion,
/me thinks dude takes all this stuff way too seriously. we're talking about games here. but yeah, fan boyism does get annoying, especially when it's just plain UNDEFENDABLE as in stalkid's xbox hatred.

xbox IS the best console out right now, unless you consider my specs:D which i use primarily as a console and to post this silly stuff right here.

but yeah, nintendo will put out better games than MS will. MS doesn't have an einstein in their xbox dev dept. nintendo does.

i can see why dude gets all riled up, but he got all riled on me one day in irc over a topic in which he was plainly and evidently ignorant, and abused his power as an op. i'd like to see a bit of restraint on his part and not have him abuse his power as a mod here, but that's not up to me, and personally i like these forums and don't think ANY mod does TOO bad of a job. :)

ok, i'm going to quit kissing butt now, read that link and my post there, and quit fanboying.

rhy
 

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