Well, props to him for actually giving a link, after reading 10-15 of Emufans negetive posts, I must have just stopped paying attention and missed where he actually DID link the help thread, and on another note, the stickied help thread was certainly not self evident considering federali was not in my knowlede a part of the cell shade mod, making that sticky somewhat deceptive, I come from other emulation communities that have help threads very specificly labeled to a specific project, but as I see, things are a bit different here, thnx for the replys none the less.