Website Proposal - HiRes Central: Recruiting Staff

[Vanit]

Well there has been a lot of concern going around about packs being hard to track down and what not, and newbs having trouble getting started due to a lack of indepth tutorials. And lastly the scene in itself is lacking a bit of a centre point aside from this small board. Hence I've decided to found a website to serve this very purpose: HiRes Central.

If you're interested in helping out and what like to join the staff for this website, and your fall under one or more these requirements, then please post with a request to join.

You have completed, or nearly completed, a HiRes Texture Pack of your own.
You are exceptionally skilled with photoshop.
You are advanced in website coding/design etc (until someone like this comes it will just be hardcoded frontpage stuff)

Also I might need some lesser skilled people to run errands that I don't have time to do myself, so if you're completely useless, I might have a job for a few of you.

If this site lifts off I'll register a domain with a proper setup and all that extra cool stuff.

Also I've considered some people that I would like to invite into the staff, and they can instantly join if they accept.

Listed in no particular order:

Kerber2K - indirectly gave me the idea, as well as a good friend ;)
Djipi
Mollymut
mdtauk

If you're not on here, its because you're not very active on threads aside from your own and I've never really spoken to you, but reply to this thread for a position if you'd like one and fill the above criteria.

Good night, to all!

[but2002]

I have PM'ed you with my information

[TS_Death_Angel]

You are advanced in website coding/design etc
That would be me :)

[but2002]

As I had PM'ed him my website is http://www.allgamingnetwork.co.nr and I think I should be a Website Designer. Or a member of the designing team

[TS_Death_Angel]

As I had PM'ed him my website is http://www.allgamingnetwork.co.nr and I think I should be a Website Designer. Or a member of the designing team
Nice site. However, I am a PHP coder aswell, which could come in handy :)

[Kerber2k]

Yea sure Ill be happy to join.

[Blacklord]

I have exeptional skills in photoshop. I can make high definition object but i am underestimated due to my lack of good design ideas. But if i have someone to tell me what to do i can do real well.
I do have basic skill of http and know how to use macromedia dreamweaver MX 6.1 to make basic web pages. www.kes-bl-entertainment.tk (http://www.kes-bl-entertainment.tk) is entirely made by me. Haven't posted artwork yet doh.

[The Dave]

Suffice to say I think theres a good amount of us that are good with photoshop.

I'll help out but one thing I would like to have a big hand in is the userface of the site. I'm crazy about how easy it is for the user to find information, and I think a wiki software that has articles that can be edited be a select few is probably the best way to go.

The problem though is this going to eventually dis-link us from the emutalk forums. If packs have their own pages and downloads then this forum starts to become useless.

[Djipi]

sure for me ;-)

[Mollymutt]

I'm flattered that you chose me to help, but I have no experience with websites. If I can help, I'll be happy to.

[skyman8081]

Mambo, anyone? (http://www.mamboserver.com/)

Really good CMS/Portal/Frontpage system that is fairly easy to customize to whatever needs you have. I've had some experience with this system and it is fairly robust.

[Vanit]

Keep posting, when I get some time tonight I'll share my thoughts on people so far.

[TS_Death_Angel]

Mambo, anyone? (http://www.mamboserver.com/)

Really good CMS/Portal/Frontpage system that is fairly easy to customize to whatever needs you have. I've had some experience with this system and it is fairly robust.
Ah... so we could add our own extensions to this? For ex., a texture pack organiser (Or something similar)?

[skyman8081]

Ah... so we could add our own extensions to this? For ex., a texture pack organiser (Or something similar)?
Yes, that is correct. There are prety of components available for this that can be used for any purpose needed. Such as file repositories, image galleries, forum software, et cetera... It is fairly easy to set up from the backend and is easy to manage.

[M Cubed]

I would offer to help. Ive been strictly modding wrestling games though.
Two different sites
http://ruthlessaggression.net/
http://www.createmode.co.uk/

[talker]

I'm a little interested to help you guy out.
I can work with xhtml, css and basicthings in photoshop.
This isn't much, but I gone far with it!.

My sites.
http://www.fattig.org (norwegian site)
http://www.askerinlineteam.tk (norwegian site)
http://www.fattig.org/vollenfotball (norwegian site).
and some few more.

[The Dave]

Here's a website I think that should be considered in the feel of the site:
http://shsc.info/ShscWiki

Not exactly that but if you do this I hope the site isn't some fanboy looking thing with a collage of characters/screens at the top of the page and an over-graphical look.

[Dr. Soong]

awesome idea, i hope to see it soon. :)

I only discovered these projects recently. And I was begining to worry I was too late.

[legend of zelda]

so if you're completely useless, I might have a job for a few of you.
That's me!
But just exactly what kind of site is this going to be? Is it going to be a site just for hosting hi-res texture packs and a help forum for noobs?

[Vanit]

The site will have lots of indepth tutorials written by me designed to make it a piece of cake to enter the scene. There will also be a forum where people can ask individual questions.

Now for addressing people who have replied for positions:

but2002: I like the style of your website and I am considering adding you to the staff.

M Cubed: I wasn't sure if you were applying or not, but your website went a little further than but2002's and I loved the design. You're welcome aboard if you'd like.

Blacklord: Uhh... Well your website isn't really up to par. Post some images of your artwork and you might be able to design a few logos.

The Dave: I'm always looking for innovation. I already have a few ideas, though I might get back to you.

Djipi, Mollymut, Kerber2k: I'd like you to be moderators on the forums for answering newb questions, if you don't mind :).

TS_Death_Angel: If you have any examples of a website you've coded I'd love to see it.

talker: Those are very good websites, but they're more of a blog style and I don't think I'd like that sort of style for this website. Sorry :(.

Did I miss out anyone?

[Djipi]

yes no problem for me

[but2002]

The site will have lots of indepth tutorials written by me designed to make it a piece of cake to enter the scene. There will also be a forum where people can ask individual questions.

Now for addressing people who have replied for positions:

but2002: I like the style of your website and I am considering adding you to the staff.

M Cubed: I wasn't sure if you were applying or not, but your website went a little further than but2002's and I loved the design. You're welcome aboard if you'd like.

Blacklord: Uhh... Well your website isn't really up to par. Post some images of your artwork and you might be able to design a few logos.

The Dave: I'm always looking for innovation. I already have a few ideas, though I might get back to you.

Djipi, Mollymut, Kerber2k: I'd like you to be moderators on the forums for answering newb questions, if you don't mind :).

TS_Death_Angel: If you have any examples of a website you've coded I'd love to see it.

talker: Those are very good websites, but they're more of a blog style and I don't think I'd like that sort of style for this website. Sorry :(.

Did I miss out anyone?

Even if there are people with better websites than me i still think that we can have an entire staff that does different things.

like the WEB DESIGN staff or the ADMINISTRATION staff or even the "WHATEVER" sectiopn staff!

[64fanatic]

Well, I wouln't have the time to be doing major hardcore coding, so i'd be okay with the tasks you don't have time for kinda stuff=]

I know basic website design, I'm also pretty good with photoshop CS2 if you need a logo, could post the updates on the main screen, all that crap, and whatever else you have in mind, like background tasks, watching over the forum for rule breakers and spammers,etc. (if you have one)

nobody else wants to yet i've seen, so i'll volunteer for the random jobs

[The Dave]

No offense that just isn't the best stuff. I have made a mock layout but I want to get in touch with Vanit of something more instant than a message board. I rather not post it until I hear his initial response and if he likes it any tweaking. I also have an idea on the flow of the website as in what click goes where.

I can tell you that the layout has no graphics other than screenshots of the packs on their information pages. It gives it a professional look and I would say it is definitely best to avoid using any Nintendo characters/logos (pretty much any IP) in graphics for the site.

If this site happens and takes off there is that chance it would receive a C&D letter from Nintendo and that would be it.

[Mollymutt]

If this site happens and takes off there is that chance it would receive a C&D letter from Nintendo and that would be it.
This is my fear. The last thing we need is the big N to shut us down. I'll be glad to help in any way I can, but I'm wondering if this will give us too much visibility.

[flowrent]

Imo the site really doesnt need to be super spectacular .
Might as well look like a ftp server as long as it has the hi-res packs and the instructions to use them .
But when you're used to being creative you can't miss the chance of making such a website..
Anyway ,the idea is excellent ,congrats for the initiative.
Mr Conker here can't wait to be a hi-res character :D

[TS_Death_Angel]

Blacklord, this isn't the place to post your portfolio and waste emuatalk's webspace. PM it to Vanit.

[Knuckles]

Blacklord : will you please STOP posting all those crap again and again in all threads? It's getting really annoying.

[Trotterwatch]

Blacklord, you are very close to a ban.

[Blacklord]

ooooh i forgot about the PM option acctualy i'll yahoo or msn since i see i'm making people mad but unlike some people i know i will apologize the nice way. Sorry for that didn't know Vanit didn't want me to post em here.
Take that u evil moderators. :P

[Knuckles]

Take that u evil moderators. :P

is that a direct attack? I can forward this to you incase you didn't know.

[Blacklord]

i'm critisizing u:P. I can forward this to u? Like do what? Send it to me again or what?

[Vanit]

Blacklord, please stop posting in this thread. I don't mean to be blunt but your images are average and you're ruining this thread with your own agenda.

I'll be keep reading this thread but due to the load of school work I have I won't be able to reply much until Saturday. Keep posting though :D.

And I'm glad that everyone is so interested in the website.

[64fanatic]

Cool website = more popularity = more high res projects

as for the risk of the big N shutting us down....

well they haven't shut down any emulator, and by god are they getting popular.

if they don't care about the emulation, i doubt they are paying enough attention to even know about this, and if they did, care.

theres no gain of profit, and theres no loss of profit from this

[The Dave]

No your logic fails. If High Res stuff gets a big popularity it would be hard to stop the packs, but if theres one website that they are coming out of then Nintendo could shut it down, and even if they wouldn't have a case in court (not exactly sure about how legal these texture packs are), they will still use scare tactics, and even if they wanted to take it to court the lawyer they could afford would beat any of our's best effort.

Emulators on the other hand aren't illegal.

That's why I throw up the caution of not using Nintendo logos or characters in website design, but thats something any professional website developer/graphic artist already knows.

[Kerber2k]

There are plenty of other high-res projects for different PC games (Shadow Warrior and Duke Nukem)...not to mention people making mods based on comercial games these would probably send up flags more than a small community using artistic creativity to re-vitilize games we already own. Nintendo would probably never even waste time sending us E-mails telling us to stop unless they felt that we were going to prevent them from making money off older games...(revolution comes to mind) Although since I see nothing illegal about the whole rom mod scene altho perhaps the big N will...meh no worries.

[Vanit]

I was reading this from school. But here's my basic plan to reduce the chance the Nintendo will intervene:

No promoting roms (duh, but I thought I should mention it)
Refer to the packs as a form of fanart (gray area, can't sue for fanart)

I was thinking of giving the website a name like Emily to reduce attention, but I think we should be okay with HiRes Central.

Now I had a talk to a few people about this and if we keep to a free host (I'll use the same one my current website is on), and upload the packs to upload websites (ie uploadtemple, rapidshare, YSI, etc) then we should be somewhat immune.

But as others have said, Nintendo have bigger fish to fry. So I ask that people no longer worry about the legal concerns of the website as I have everything covered.

Please keep contributing and I'd like to see more people interested in the web designing component (with examples of past work) :).

[but2002]

I was reading this from school. But here's my basic plan to reduce the chance the Nintendo will intervene:

No promoting roms (duh, but I thought I should mention it)
Refer to the packs as a form of fanart (gray area, can't sue for fanart)

But as others have said, Nintendo have bigger fish to fry. So I ask that people no longer worry about the legal concerns of the website as I have everything covered.


Yes. This would prevent ANY problems with the big N

With the new "REVOLUTION" comming out has gotten the big N pretty exited because it "The REVOULUTION of gaming"

Pretty sure if we launch we will not be shut by the N because of these.

---HiRES Central--- A good ASCII logo.. but needs a better font....
---HiRES Central---

hmm....

[The Dave]

Well since you want to see example and stuff I'll just post my first layout-concept. (I have a portfolio but I had a hard-drive crash around 6 months ago, lost all my psds, and have backups on a drive on the other coast and I STILL can't get my hands on it)

Now I have a feeling a lot of people posting in this thread might be against it, because I see a lot of (no offense, but really) people who just use photoshop filters and really don't know much about graphic design (though not to discredit those who do know what they're doing, theres plenty of you too).

It's a simple design, really with usability in mind more than anything.

Also there may be no other solution but I don't like the idea of public free hosting for the files because they often expire after days and we'll have a site of dead links.

Also, about the mockup. I'm not trying to pimp my current project. I only put WaveRace images there on the mock-up because it saved the time it would have taken for me to grab/make screens, I already had these on my computer.

[The Dave]

Or if you're looking for a branding logo, here's an idea:

The parallelograms represent the going from a small blurry texture to a bigger, smooth one.

[skyman8081]

I like it, simple and sweet.

One question though, will it be fixed or variable width? I happen to have a personal distaste against fixed width sites.

[flowrent]

The Dave ,your work is nice ! Except for the latin part :D .
No need for flash & stuff ,simple and efficient imo.

[Djipi]

nice logo the dave i love it

[Kerber2k]

I like Daves logo aswell...but I couldnt help myself heres my very rough logo design might almost be confusing...but I think if you know where you are..and whats there it gets the message across nicely. If anyone likes it I could easily shine it up to look professional.

[Djipi]

e brilliant effect kerber2k and it's perfect too

[but2002]

Eh.. Pretty good.. my little design coulda worked



---HiRES Central---

[flowrent]

HR..nice :)

[The Dave]

Here are the same website mock-ups but with the two logos.

Good work Kerber, smart idea.

[but2002]

Here are the same website mock-ups but with the two logos.

Good work Kerber, smart idea.

you forgot my logo......

I want you to make another one in a 'logo" but have it like


---HiRES CENTRAL---

[The Dave]

The logo you made is barely visible and relies on a black background. It's anything but versitile. If you want to make an another attempt and have a go provide something that can be on any color background and is a decent resolution.

I also see no need for any ascii art around the logo, if you want to do that with yours that's your prerogative.

[Dr. Soong]

the cube logo is neat, but difficult to see imo. i would try making another version of it so its 'flat' and not 3d. also i was thinking making a logo in likeness to the n64 logo is a bad idea.

and personally i dont have any preference between fixed/variable widths.
if you need some good fonts check out
http://www.dafont.com/

i really like the mockups. btw what waverace tx's are those? :)

[The Dave]

Click the image! (Self-Project whore)!

Also, I also say fixed vs. variable doesn't matter to me, but we are in the age where there is a HUGE range of resolutions being used. so variable is probably much better idea.

[but2002]

Ok. So what.,.. but if you didnt notice it was just an idea but you could creaste one similar. And don't forget. He hasnt selected his staff yet.

Plust i want to be Web design. not logos

[Weatherton]

I like Daves logo aswell...but I couldnt help myself heres my very rough logo design might almost be confusing...but I think if you know where you are..and whats there it gets the message across nicely. If anyone likes it I could easily shine it up to look professional.

Kerb, I like the idea, it reminds me of the logo I made for NGenres.com:
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/NG_cut.gif

Your logo is technically incorrect though and looks much cooler if done right.

A quick version:
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo.png

[The Dave]

I'm just giving you tips on making logos from someone whos been payed to make brand logos for small companies before, then maybe in the future I would hope you would think about those tips.

No shame in trying a second attempt at a logo. I have some projects where I have ~15 versions/revisions of a logo for one company.

I would like to see some of your ideas for the web design as well.

[The Dave]

Weatherton, though that is correct, don't you feel Kerb's is "easier" to read? I do. Your's is also missing the "C" at the top to spell out the full name.

[Weatherton]

The C is not physically correct, and I did not even know a C was necessary in the logo -- hadn't read the thread thorougly... anyway, I've always liked my NGenres logo.

once again: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/NG_cut.gif

*edit, the reason the C is not physically correct is the logo could not spin and continue being HR, it would be some garbled mess on the other side. Also, the C is upside down and unlikely to be noticed for what it is by the average viewer

[The Dave]

I'm aware of what your saying, but if kerber puts that one line on the other side then the C will be visible, and I don't think you're going to get HRC, or even HR alone for that matter to look correct without breaking the realness of the 3d.

Now the N64 logo works because it's just 4 Ns and that NG logo works because you can make that look very close to an N and keep it's 3d integrity. I just don't feel that it's as possible with HR and that the elimination of the realness of it is in the best interest of artistic integrity.

[Weatherton]

I'm aware of what your saying, but if kerber puts that one line on the other side then the C will be visible, and I don't think you're going to get HRC, or even HR alone for that matter to look correct without breaking the realness of the 3d.

Now the N64 logo works because it's just 4 Ns and that NG logo works because you can make that look very close to an N and keep it's 3d integrity. I just don't feel that it's as possible with HR and that the elimination of the realness of it is in the best interest of artistic integrity.

Impossible is Nothing:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo2.png

[Weatherton]

Another option, drop down the H crossmember and make it a bit wider:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo3.png

[Weatherton]

Center can just be added somehow, or a C could be added as a part of the R or attached to it.

Please keep in mind the HR was litterally thrown together, I would make it every bit as clear and sweet as the NG logo ... anywho...
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo4.png
hmm, just realized it's "Central" lol:
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo6.png

[Weatherton]

New York Yankees Approach (could be tweaked to make clearer):
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_N64_highres_Logo7.png

[Kerber2k]

I think ill just knock off the other sides and make it more of corner...meh oh well Im done with this...I was blind to begin with not to see the conflicts seeing as its in 3D

[Weatherton]

A more finalized version:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/N64_HighResCentral.png

[TS_Death_Angel]

Looking great, guys.
Vanit, am I on the website design/coding team? You never answered my PM... :S

[Weatherton]

And in motion:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/AnimatedGif_HR.gif

[Weatherton]

Now Cel-shaded:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_celShaded_crop.png

[Djipi]

great

[Vanit]

Woah, Weatherton, those logos look so awesome! Yours are okay too Kerber... but not as pwnage.

TS_Death_Angel: You're good at coding, I'll give you that, so you're under consideration. But I don't want to make any decisions on staff until I get some talented layout designers interested.

Weatherton: I forgot to put you on the initial list of automatic staff. So welcome aboard ;).

[The Dave]

Weatherton: First, can you please not post so much big images. Now the way it looks in the finalized version looks best, but I think you have the one angle messed up.

A spinning version wouldn't be neccessary. Also, just putting the words "Central" after it doesn't add or take away anything, because you don't get "Hi-Res" from that HR cube. If any text would be around it would be "Hi-Res Central" to spell it all out and I would reccomend not rendering the text in a 3d program because look that great. Also putting the text on a 3d plane doesn't work because it's going to look out of alignment with the website which is flat.

Is this it for logos submissions? Mine and Weatherton? And is mine dead? I'd love to see more ideas for an original logo because I don't like the n64 logo the way it is, and nothing against the creativity Weatherton and Kerber have done, but I don't really like their logos based on that. Plus I'm not a fan of ripping Nintendo's logo off.

I also still like the presentation of Kerbers more, I understand the argument of it not being real 3d, but it just looks smoother and is much easier on the eyes, and presents the concept better.

Either way this is just my opinion and I think the community that's interested in this site happenning need to lend their voices as well.

Vanit, if you can't tell I would really like to be the lead designer for this site. That doesn't mean that I make everything, but I would like to oversee everything and do the layout for the site. In the position of lead designer I would never do something like reject Weatherton's logo while everyone else loves it, to say I wouldn't be a dictator.

I don't know good code well (just html and css) though and I think for this project to work the site is going to need to be php/mysql and set up in editable databases so information can be updated and reflected on the site with most ease.

Here are more site concepts, I have another logo idea as well (which is very similar to this one I have already made) but I'm not sure if it would be worth it to even create. Anywho, as you can see in these images, the site would rely on some custom database work:

[Weatherton]

I just changed several of the images to links to cut down on load time (though I'm hosting them all so I don't care about my bandwidth).

Here is a spinning version I was planning to post before the emutalk server went down for a bit:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/AnimatedGif_HR_cel-shaded.gif

*edit* Vanit, thanks for the invite :) I would be glad to be a part of it.

Also, Dave, in reaction to your comment:

Plus I'm not a fan of ripping Nintendo's logo off.
I think it's really more of a symbol of the spirit of what we're doing here, building on the creative genious inherent in the games we are choosing to retexture. By changing the textures we are clearly relying on the original design while imparting our own spin -- exactly what is occuring with the HR logo.

[fps_anth]

Nice logo! Looking forward to the site!

[Mollymutt]

My idea for a logo, is to start it out lo-rez, then have it turn hi-rez half way through. As you can see, I would spell it "hi-rez" instead of hi-res.

[64fanatic]

with weatherton's logo, that spin effect might not be nessasary, but damn is it ever sharp looking

I like the spin effect=]
and the cel shading

[Weatherton]

Hey guys, here is an optimized version of just the logo. I could make one with an alpha channel if there were a need, but for some reason the original image stays in the background if I do that. I'm sure I could figure it out (or hopefully someone who has had that before could tell me why) but for now, I'll just have a white background:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~avw6s/random/HR_Highres_AnimatedGIF.gif

(It's 100x110 at 54KB)

[Typify]

I don't really like the design of the logo but hey, that's just me I guess.

[Vanit]

The Dave: I like it. Sold. You win. Welcome aboard :D.

[The Dave]

Thank you very much Vanit.

So now a coder is needed.

Is there anyone up to offer their services? You're going to need to know mysql/php. I don't think you'll have to write a custom script, I want to try and find a Wiki software that will be able to work with my ideas in mind. Also looking for someone who is easy to reach/open for communication, basically someone who I won't have troubles contact, and someone who won't skip town.

Reply here, PM me, or IM "Chocobo578" if you're interested.

[TS_Death_Angel]

Thank you very much Vanit.

So now a coder is needed.

Is there anyone up to offer their services? You're going to need to know mysql/php. I don't think you'll have to write a custom script, I want to try and find a Wiki software that will be able to work with my ideas in mind. Also looking for someone who is easy to reach/open for communication, basically someone who I won't have troubles contact, and someone who won't skip town.

Reply here, PM me, or IM "Chocobo578" if you're interested.
I guess I could do that. However, I've never really coded anything that uses MySQL... >>;

[The Dave]

Well TS Death Angel, would you be able to install and edit/work with php applications? I'm looking to use Media Wiki with the site, unless I can find a better wiki software (why wiki? so pack authors can update/add information on their material and be responsible for the updates).

Here's a link, maybe you can put it on some webspace of your own and try playing with it.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

Also Vanit, what webspace do you plan on putting this site on? Could you message me details with that information?

[Vanit]

A friend of mine who's part of the staff for an emulation website, which I will not name until its finalised, has gratiously offered to host us within their website. We should have around 500mb disk space, and enough bandwidth to keep the website up with ease. Additionally there is support for mysql (iirc) among other things.

The Dave: Also keep in mind that even though I've given you the role of lead designer that you can't leave me out of the loop. I appreciate that you have already taken the initiative of running everything by me and I encourage you to continue in this manner. TS_Death_Angel has proven through his examples that he can code so its fine by me if you want him to be the one that helps you out :).

I'm glad that everyone is so keen on this website. This might just work!

[The Dave]

Oh no doubt I'm going to make decisions with your main approval. Just to guage TS Death Angel's knowledge I asked him about media wiki. It's just an example of software I'm looking at and is not definite software choice, I'm still searching for packages.

[skyman8081]

I'm not sure that software like mediawiki would be the best solution. I think that it would be to cumbersome to maintain.

My suggestion would be to use something like Mambo, which is heavily customisable, or to do something from scratch. I'll whip up a flowchart for what a scratchbuilt solution might look like from a design standpoint.

[The Dave]

I agree with about 90% of that flowchart, the reason I was looking into wiki software was because I was hoping that people could sign-up and control the content.

[skyman8081]

I agree with about 90% of that flowchart, the reason I was looking into wiki software was because I was hoping that people could sign-up and control the content.
What's the 10%?

[The Dave]

Nothing big other than I think that the tutorials should be a database as well.

Are you good with setting up databases like this? Then maybe something where people could register, edit, and add new content (with an administrator cp for security [like undoing malicious edits]). Or is that something too complicated to be written from ground up?

EDIT: Actually that Mambo is looking really cool and a huge possibility.

[skyman8081]

Nothing big other than I think that the tutorials should be a database as well.

Are you good with setting up databases like this? Then maybe something where people could register, edit, and add new content (with an administrator cp for security [like undoing malicious edits]). Or is that something too complicated to be written from ground up?
It is possible to do something like that from the ground up, but at that point, you are better off with a pre-fab CMS system. Such as Mambo, which I keep mentioning. That gives more control that a wiki would allow, and can have a more customisable look to it, than what I have seen with mediawiki.

That, and I have the coding ability of a blind monkey on crack.

[but2002]

If your friends host supports .htaccess, php, MySQL then I can work on a forum for the website.

[Vanit]

Can you show me any examples proving that you're up to it?

[The Dave]

If we use the Mambo system and it has a forums plugin, wouldn't we just go with that?

Also, do we want forums? Or should we link to this forum? This is definitely a hot-topic in my opinion.

Also Vanit, when will access to this host be available? I only ask in saying if me and TS_Death_Angel are on board for this I would hope that sometime in the upcoming days we can have a server to try get a working site system on.

[skyman8081]

If we use the Mambo system and it has a forums plugin, wouldn't we just go with that?

Also, do we want forums? Or should we link to this forum? This is definitely a hot-topic in my opinion.

Also Vanit, when will access to this host be available? I only ask in saying if me and TS_Death_Angel are on board for this I would hope that sometime in the upcoming days we can have a server to try get a working site system on.
There is a forum component available for Mambo. I've used it, it fits perfectly with the system, and it is pretty good. It's called simpleboard.

I would say yes to having a forum, otherwise we wont have as much repeat traffic, so people wouldn't be keeping up with the texture packs, and less incentive to submit them to the site.

[Vanit]

I thought I already said it would have a forum :P. But to reiterate; yes I definitely want a forum as part of the website. I suppose people can post updates to their packs in threads in our forums, but I don't want to steal traffic from emutalk or have people running duplicate threads in both places. I'll also be taking a more active approach to newb-issues, if anyone has issues, and has read all the relevent tutorials, I will address them by adding new tutorials or by updating the old ones.

Also I'm unsure if I want the tutorial section as an active database that anyone can add to as this is essentially going to be my main contribution to the website and I would like to do all of it myself. Ofcourse people can submit tutorials, but I would not like to have duplicate tutorials addressing the same problems, or people writing tutorials that people have asked me to write before I get a chance to do so. It may seem a little childish, I admit, but I don't want someone external to the staff monopolising the tutorial section.

Another idea I've been toying with is if rather than having people posting updates in their threads, that the texture pack section would be like a database. People could add a pack and post updates by themselves and upload their packs to the website directly, or by submission. This would definitely make the pack section far more active. It would also solve the problem of people running 2 threads, one in our forums and one here in emutalk.

[The Dave]

I see your point with the tutorials and agree.

Also, that's exactly how I've always seen the packs section. The content being controlled by the authors.

[Vanit]

Oh, and there is one feature that I would like you to implement into the website (though you probably already intended to, I thought I should double check). I'd like to be able to remotely post updates to the news on the homepage via http. Is that in your range of abilities?

Also to everyone else that I have invited to the staff (Djipi, Kerber, Weatherton, The Dave, TS_Death_Angel, Mollymut). If you want to contact me directly, my MSN is burningferret(at)hotmail(dot)com, and my AIM is vanitstudios. You can add me on one or both if you use them. And if anyone else wants to add me they can if they ask me via private message first. I don't want to log on tonight to see 50 randoms have added me for no reason.

And I think that wraps it up for this post.

[The Dave]

One of the points of using Mambo would be to submit all content on the site through http.

[Vanit]

I'm still wondering how Mambo will look intergrated into the website. Can someone link me an example of a website that uses it?

[but2002]

I have NEVER heard of Mambo and I suggest phpBB Fully Modded.I use it and It has advanced features such as chatrooms phillian (which is an inboard IM) banning, a warning system, an attachment system and MUCH more.
It is also compatible to integrateinto the website so it uses the same template as the website.

But if we were to link to here we would need Emutalk's permission.

An EX. of my board. http://bartat.freeownhost.com/phpbb/index.php

[The Dave]

I don't think phpBB would really offer exactly what we want, and I also think it's bloated.

Here are some mambo links I found by quick searching, the customizing of it seems to be exactly what I would hope for.

http://www.mambolove.com/
http://mamboxchange.com/
http://www.mambocommunities.com/

And for but2002:

"Mambo is a 'free' web-based content management system, which allows its users to create, organise and update content using a web browser, without the need to know the web technicalities usually involved in producing content for the web.

Mambo was developed 5 years ago by Miro International to be a simple to use web publishing system. It was released to the Open Source community and since then has been developed by members of the community into one of the most powerful Open Source Content Management Systems available. "

I'm actually really excited with it and would love to get it on a server and start playing with it.

[Vanit]

Those websites don't look half bad; you can use Mambo if you want. I guess all we're waiting on now is my friend to get back to me about the host.

[Amon_Knives]

I wouldn't mind helping you guys out, but I'm not sure how much help I'd be.

[The Dave]

I installed Mambo on a client's server and I had a very good first impression. I think TS_Death_Angel and myslef will have no problems tackling getting it running to how we want.

[Vanit]

Well to be honest I think we're all set staff-wise.

The Dave: I'm glad to hear it :).

[but2002]

What is wrong with phpBB?

[skyman8081]

What is wrong with phpBB?
phpBB is a fat bloated bitch, that is ill-suited for this kind of task.

[but2002]

If the website needs a forum then I do reccommend phpBB fully modded the origional version of phpBB yes is a pice of garbage but Fully Modded seems like a reasonable thing to ponder.

[skyman8081]

If the website needs a forum then I do reccommend phpBB fully modded the origional version of phpBB yes is a pice of garbage but Fully Modded seems like a reasonable thing to ponder.
The Simpleboard component for Mambo (http://www.tsmf.net/) integrates perfectly with Mambo, and uses much less overhead on the server, compared to phpBB. Also, if we ran Mambo and phpBB, we would be require double registrations, which is a HUGE NO in terms of user-experience.

[Doomulation]

Wheee, I didn't have time before, but now I have...
I can offer several things for you all.

I am experienced in both PHP and MySQL, as I have written a full script with administration and a personal profile, with more.
Also experienced in javascript. Used to create nice effects with it.
I have done HTML, but... well, no professional sites.
I can also offer hosting for you all. I have a whopping 10 gb of space, with about 300 or so already reserved. I have 500 gb bandwidth each month with about 8 gb or so used each month, which should be plenty!
Of course I have all the advanced stuff with php, perl mysql (unlimited mysql databases to boot), etc, etc...
It is possible to direct a domain of your own to my web space also, so that is not a problem.
I could also help moderating forums, if you want, or run some quick (not too much time consuming at least) random errands.

If there is anything here you might have use for, then feel free to ask it of me.

[but2002]

Well DuH! We need to choose one or the other (Vanits choice) phpBB fULLY MODDED or Mambo, and no phpBB isn't an overload.

[The Dave]

but2002, please stop bringing up phpBB. I've worked with phpBB, and I just started getting into mambo, and mambo at the moment has everything I am looking for to go with the design and navigation of the site. phpBB has nothing that would help me, besides bloated forum software, when forums aren't the main focus of this site. If this site was just for forums, there would be no site, because this is a site born from a forum community.

Just take a look at your phpBB and compare that with the images of what we plan on with the look of the site. Nothing matches. So please.

[skyman8081]

In my experience, phpBB is nowhere NEAR as flexible as Mambo is, especially from an administration standpoint. Also it opens the door to a LOT of security vulnerabilites. Unless YOU want to see HiRes Central replaced with "DEFACED BY IDIOT1024!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL SHOUTZ TO 1337-JACKASS!" I suggest we stick with Mambo.

And the phpBB component for mambo is a total hog.

[Vanit]

I say we stick with Mambo :).

Doomulation: I think we're all set staff-wise for now so we probably won't need your assistance. As for your hosting, I take it you mean you'll be running it from your own computer? If thats the case we're definitely not interested in something as unreliable as amature hosting. If thats not what you meant, I'm still waiting on the reply from my friend with regards to the deal he's already offered us. Thanks for the offer though.

[but2002]

OK, i know the site isnt just about forums, im just trying to get a forum that can be easily set for restrictions wo having to "flex it" and has features that go beyond that of just a forum. I keep bringing it up becaue what we want to do on the site can be done on this forum itself. The main portal page is designed to post updates on, its almost like it isnt a forum, it just has a forum built into it. we can put updated and upload them and much more.

we saw what was on Mambo and this is what phpBB FM can do.
(Sorry i brung it up again just showing the features as you did Mambo although I cannat give a direct link)
But if Vanit chooses we must respect that

(=] Mabye we shouldn't.. 40MB of information but it is VERY light on the Databas)



EDIT: Read below!

[The Dave]

What the hell is wrong with you? Everyone has spoken against it, and then you pull this shit with this super long post of a changelog for software that no one cares about, or cares using. You're really getting under my skin.

[skyman8081]

NO.

Back to Mambo, you want me to give you some pointers to good components and modules for mambo?

phpBB chokes under a lot of traffic. ESPECIALLY when you have a bunch of mods. Mambo caches pages, and can handle larger amounts of traffic with ease.

Given that this forum (Dipji's cell-shaded OoT pack) has been on digg before, that is a HUGE concern.

[but2002]

OK the point of a community is to express OPINIONS and i did.
DEAL WITH IT

[skyman8081]

OK the point of a community is to express OPINIONS and i did.
DEAL WITH IT
And I happen to be expressing my opinion that your suggestion is not feasable to implement, and does not meet the needs of this proposed websites. You just did not want to drop it and accept the idea that your suggestion isn't feasable.

You want to walk you through a hypothetical scenario of your suggestion?

Your scenario:

Dipji posts a final version of the cell-shaded OoT and Majora's Mask pack. This gets posted on the HiRes Central website. Joystiq runs a story with a link to the download page. The traffic that Joystiq dumps strains the website, due the amount of database calls that phpBB has to make. Slashdot and digg pick up the story and post it. The sheer amount of traffic crashes the website, rendering it unavailable, and fills the database that has to hold the forum. Some enterprising skr1pt k1dd1e discovers that the version of phpBB is slightly out of date. He uses on of the many hacking scripts available and gains admin powers, banning the staff from the forum, causing the website to have to roll back to a database backup.

Under Mambo:
Dipji posts the final version of the cell-shaded OoT and Majora's Mask texture pack. This gets posted to HiRes Central. Joystiq runs a story with a link to the download page. Mambo has cached all the pages, and serves those, meaning that it does not need to make any database calls. Slashdot and digg pick up the story. It gets linked to and the server is barely, but able to handle distributing the pack.

[Vanit]

but2002: I appreciate it if you never brought up the topic of phpBB ever again.

[Doomulation]

I say we stick with Mambo :).

Doomulation: I think we're all set staff-wise for now so we probably won't need your assistance. As for your hosting, I take it you mean you'll be running it from your own computer? If thats the case we're definitely not interested in something as unreliable as amature hosting. If thats not what you meant, I'm still waiting on the reply from my friend with regards to the deal he's already offered us. Thanks for the offer though.
No such thing as amature hosting. It's a professional hosting from another hosting company. In case you're still interested in staff - as I mean, you can never have too many - I'll still be here.
But it's up to you, though.
Thing is, I can also set it up immediately. So you can and experiment, etc. Setting up a domain name and connecting it later should be no problems. Now the decision is left in your hands. Good luck!

[Vanit]

Well my friend just got back to me and he says that its an 80% chance that they'll be able to host us. So I'll be hanging on a bit longer for his answer.

[Doomulation]

You have the option to choose whichever host provides you with the best service :P I'll be waiting for your answer anyway.

[but2002]

Fine, the topic of phpBB will not be spoken from me again.

I use a pretty cool host for my site ( http://www.100webspace.com ) It supports PHP PEARL MySQL etc..

FREE Hosting w/ banners plan
100 MB Disk Space, 3,000 MB Traffic, 1 Domain Hosted, 5 Subdomains, 3 Email Aliases $0.00 /yr. $8.95 /yr to remove banners

Personal package plan
300 MB Disk Space, 10,000 MB Traffic, 1 Domain Hosted, 5 Subdomains, 5 Email Aliases $26.55 /yr.

Personal Pro plan
2,500 MB Disk Space, 45,000 MB Traffic, 3 Domains Hosted, 20 Subdomains, 1200 Email Aliases $56.59 /yr.

Business package plan
1,200 MB Disk Space, 30,000 MB Traffic, 1 Domain Hosted, 300 Subdomains, 600 Email Aliases $74.59 /yr.

Gold package plan
2,400 MB Disk Space, 40,000 MB Traffic, 1 Domain Hosted, 400 Subdomains, 800 Email Aliases $164.59 /yr.

Platinum package plan
3,600 MB Disk Space, 50,000 MB Traffic, 1 Domain Hosted, 500 Subdomains, 1000 Email Aliases $299.59 /yr.

[Doomulation]

Let's see... the most expensive plan is $25/month.
Here is a feature list of what my host provides:

Disk Space / Storage 10 GB
Data Transfer 500 GB
Websites / Domains Allowed 3
Personalized Web Address (yourdomain.com) Yes
24x7 Phone/Chat/Email Support Yes
100% Uptime Guarantee Yes
POP3 Email Account Unlimited
Forwarding Account & Auto Responder Unlimited
E-mail Aliases Unlimited
Spam/ Junk-Mail Filters Yes
Web-Based Email (Access Your Email Anywhere!) Yes
Desktop Email (Supports Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.) Yes
Mailing Lists Yes
Website Builder with 1,000 Templates (Site Studio) Yes
Use your own (Dreamweaver/FrontPage and more) Yes
FTP accounts / FTP Anonymous Access Yes
SSL Secure Server Yes
MySQL Databases Unlimited
Pre-Installed Software/Scripts (Fantastico) 49
Blog Yes
Photo Sharing Yes
PHP w/ Zend Optimizer Yes
CGI-BIN Yes
PERL / Python Support Yes
Imagemagick / GD Yes
Server Side Includes Yes
FrontPage 2000 / 2002 Extensions Yes
Website Backup Software Yes
OS Commerce Shopping Cart Yes
ZenCart Shopping Cart Yes
Pay Pal Shopping Cart Yes
Search Engine Submission Yes
Keyword and Meta-Tag Generator Yes
Free Online Marketing Credit at Yahoo $100
AWstats Yes
Webalizer Yes
Raw Access Logs Yes
Bandwidth Usage Yes
Subdomains Unlimited
Parked Domains / Domain Aliases Unlimited
Custom Error Pages Yes
Password Protected Directories Yes
Streaming Audio / Video (Windows / Real Media) Yes
Flash / Shockwave Support Yes
Cron Job Support Yes
Secure Shell (SSH) Yes
Tier-1 Bandwidth Yes
UPS Power Backup / Diesel Generators Yes
Redundant CISCO Network Yes
24x7x365 Network Monitoring System Yes
Daily Backups Yes

And I pay less for it than the most expensive plan that site offers.

[but2002]

I like you host! What is the website?

[skyman8081]

Doom, the bandwidth and disk size on that is really low for this kind of website.

I would suggest going with dreamhost (http://www.dreamhost.com/).

[but2002]

2.2 TB OF BaNDWITH!?

[Vanit]

Holy crap... dreamhost is teh dr00l. And you get 8gb of EXTRA bandwidth each week... But this is all a bit overkill... but its so cheap :O. I'll look into dreamhost definitely.

And I found the Jobs section quite amusing.
TECHNICAL SUPPORT REPRESENTATIVE
We're DEFINITELY always on the look out for good support people.

If you're located in or around the Brea or Downtown Los Angeles area, have good English language and touch-typing skills, Unix/Linux command-line experience, and (preferably) some customer-support experience, we'd like to hear from you! (Technical support here is 95% email and 5% phone calls.)

We could go on and on about how we're looking to hire "dynamic individuals to work in a fast-paced environment," and that ideal candidates would possess "a combination of solid technical knowledge and interpersonal skills to interact with a cutting-edge team of professionals," and blah blah blah. We could say all that, but companies say that crap all the time and they don't really care about who you are, just what you know.

We are SO not like that! If you're cool and enjoy jokes about ninjas and pirates, you'll probably get the job. If you come to the interview wearing a tie acting all high and mighty like it'd be some kind of honor for you to work for us, you probably won't get the job. You laugh now, but it's happened before!

[Doomulation]

Well... it is true that it has indeed more storage and bandwidth, but it also some things like scripts. I will also look into this - there is no need for you to pay the hosting.
But besides that, for now the site is small, and a big increase in bandwidth and space should not be necessary.
But unfortunaly, Shell / FTP / E-Mail Accounts is limited to 75 of the cheapest hosting plan wheras my current hosting allows for unlimited.

[Vanit]

Doomulation: Simply finding a host for us will not gain you a position as a staff member. I can tell, like but2002, that you keep pushing your ideas in hope of recognition when they're found obselete. So I'd appreciate it if you would stop pushing your magical host which you were hiding the name from us so you could bargain to hand it over for a staff position.

/taps nose

Yes, I noticed.

[Doomulation]

Vanit: I think that host is interesting and if you want I will help you, otherwise I will not. I don't care one way or another.

[Vanit]

Then you won't mind me saying we don't want your host then. I'll either be choosing dreamhost, and using it to host my own website too, or my friend will be hosting us.

[Doomulation]

Fine by me.
Good luck with your site.

[The Dave]

Vanit, if you plan on using dreamhost please tell me before you sign up for anything because I might be able to get you a discount.

[Dr. Soong]

what about midPhase, they claim to have "unmetered bandwidth"

[Vanit]

Well I think if you have 1.2TB you have nothing to worry about. But anyways, my friend has just told me that his site would be happy to host our website. So now thats settled I'd appreciate it if there was no more input on hosts at this issue has been resolved.

[but2002]

Hosting solved, when is it going up?

[Vanit]

Maybe a couple of weeks. It depends on when I get a chance to have a 1-1 talk with Lord Snow, the leader of the emulation site, which is emunext.net btw, then when The Dave and TS_Death_Angel have a fiddle around with the host to get the layout they want, and lastly when I have enough free time to write some tutorials.

[skyman8081]

what about midPhase, they claim to have "unmetered bandwidth"
Anybody who claims unlimited or unmetered bandwidth is a liar. There are limits to bandwidth, and it is what the server is physically capable of.

Unmetered means that if you get a lot of traffic, your site could still go down. Because the host is not making any guarantee's on how much bandwidth they give you, and it usually is laughably low.

If a site promises 2.2 TB of bandwidth, then that means that they actually have 2.2 TB of badwidth to give you. This is important in case you ever get slashdotted.

By the way, I just learned this the hard way, but dreamhost has a one-click install for Joomla/Mambo in the control panel. (I'm using dreamhost to host one of my own sites)

[but2002]

hmm.. Im going to look up mambo and do a test install on my server to find out all of its possibilities

[Vanit]

Dare I say, it took you long enough :P.

[but2002]

WOW! I apologize! This is a GREAT system although i didnt get the images all up, but this would be PERFECT!!!

Ill say it again, I apologize.

[Doomulation]

Anybody who claims unlimited or unmetered bandwidth is a liar. There are limits to bandwidth, and it is what the server is physically capable of.

Unmetered means that if you get a lot of traffic, your site could still go down. Because the host is not making any guarantee's on how much bandwidth they give you, and it usually is laughably low.

If a site promises 2.2 TB of bandwidth, then that means that they actually have 2.2 TB of badwidth to give you. This is important in case you ever get slashdotted.

By the way, I just learned this the hard way, but dreamhost has a one-click install for Joomla/Mambo in the control panel. (I'm using dreamhost to host one of my own sites)
Unmetered bandwidth means that the host will not meter your bandwidth and your website will not be shut down if it exceeds the amount. My host has one such feature. It does not mean you have unlimited bandwidth, however. Although it doesn't mean you should cross the limit all of often anyway.

[Vanit]

The hosts always have an idea of about how much bandwidth you'll use, even if its unmetered or unlimited. They calculate it by your max speed by the duration of a month. So if your server allows maximum speed of 100kb/s with 'unlimited' bandwidth for a month, it just means you're getting around 259.2gb bandwidth per month.

Its only a matter of wording to make the deals sound better than they are.

And contrary to what everyone said previously, Dreamhost is a TERRIBLE host that, while has good HDD and bandwidth, has terrible customer support. And a lot of people break the rule of too many CPU minutes, and Dreamhost never proves it, but after the 97 day money back guarentee they notify you of the situation, suspend your account indefinitely and take your money.

[Doomulation]

That was too bad. It looked like a great host.

[but2002]

Did this idea die? Or just the topic?

[Dr. Soong]

yeah i havent heard much good about dreamhost, only people ive seen priase it are those pushing refferals.

[Vanit]

The topic is just inactive for now as I'm just waiting on having a real-time chat to Lord Snow, the owner of Emunext. Then it will be up The Dave to start setting up the site.

Don't worry, this idea won't just go away.

[The Dave]

Yes if you don't hear from us it isn't because the site is dead but because we're putting time into it and doing it right.

[TS_Death_Angel]

We're doing fine :P Click here (http://multiftp.free.fr/z64/test/layout_hrc/layout.php) to see the current design in HTML.

[Vanit]

I had a chat with Lord Snow and the hosting has been finalised! I emailed the server info to The Dave so he can start work as soon as its convenient.

Progress!

Oh, and the name of the site is Hires-Central; I decided not to make it rez.

[Cönker]

I'm going to be building a website (to showcase some projects, non gaming ones per se) and I would be happy to host this site. Since It will have 1000GB monthly transfer and only 50 cents every gig over bandwidth isn't a problem.

PM me about it.

[Vanit]

I'm afaid we don't require your services.

[but2002]

Hey.. Vanit? Have I been accepted as a member of the staff?

[Vanit]

Not unless you have a way to contribute.

[but2002]

My way of contributing would be moderating some forums (that is if there will be any) as I have previous experience


BTW: my site was moved to http://www.allgamingnetwork.com
It WAS ------------------.>http://www.allgamingnetwork.co.nr

[Vanit]

I've taken the moderators from the pool of experienced pack designers in this forum. Additionally, I already have enough people for a starting forum.

[but2002]

ahh.. ok.. :( I was hoping to help...

[The Dave]

An update: TS_Death_Angel and myself are swamped with school work this week and don't have much time in our schedules during the weekdays to work on the site. However, I may have a good amount of time after this thursday to make some progress.

Yall just gotta give us time though.

And we need an official logo decision.

[Mollymutt]

What's going on with this project. We haven't heard anything in about a month.

[Vanit]

The site is currently under construction :).

[Djipi]

great vanit please to help you

[but2002]

Do you have a link so we can preview?

[The Dave]

No, but I can tell you the progress bar will go flying on this once I get done with classes (about 3 weeks).

[but2002]

What is the progress on the site? ( saving from an auto prune )

[The Reverend]

Just want to say thank-you to all the people involved in this. For whatever reason you guys do it, you are all eternally cool in my eyes.

Registered just to say that.

And a special thanks to Vanit for choosing The Dave's layout - as soon as I saw it (today) I wanted to go back in time and beg for it to be chosen, but no need. My first beer tonight will be in your honour.

cheers,
adam.

[Vanit]

I thought I should announce this before anyone finds the site and inquires as to whats happened. But some guy has ninja'd hirescentral.com and decided to try copy our idea (I think?). In anycase his progress is minimal to say the most and I think his real motive was an attempt to resell it to us, though let me disclaim that he has made no such move so it is purely speculation. So if you're reading this Krister, I know who you are and I won't forgive you easily ;). We've renamed the site to something else cooler sounding, however we will not be announcing the name so we can continue to build the site in secret.

ANYWAYS, After a few months of planning we have finally started work! I've become quite adept at Joomla through managing several other websites of my own. I have purchased the domain for the new name of the website. Dave and myself, the primary staff, have started writing tutorials, setting up the forums, and, let me say that Dave's template has come to life and looks kicking ;).

So I just thought I'd keep you guys posted. The idea is finally gathering speed.

[Noglory]

This is great! Iv been sending alot of people to this forum... Alot of the people iv sent here has had trouble finding things and finding out how to get rice's plugin and packs to work. noobs hehe!

[Shades]

Well it seems like that wanker has been "corrected"? Or just gave up? 'Cause now I see http://www.highrescentral.com/ is down.

[The Dave]

Well we don't need to worry about that domain, we have a better name now.

The site is going very well and will be live not too long from now. I'm currently working on the template for the forums. The main site is pretty much done as far as design, we just need to get our content done.

[Vanit]

http://www.hirescentral.com/ was the domain the guy ninja'd btw, not highrescentral.

[Shades]

http://www.hirescentral.com/ was the domain the guy ninja'd btw, not highrescentral.

Oops. I see he's still being a wanker then. Oh well. Glad to hear the site is moving ahead to bigger and better things anyway. :bouncy:

[Doomulation]

On a side note, perhaps a title edit is in place, since you are apparently no longer recruiting staff ;)

[Vanit]

I think even if I change it, the changes will apply only to within the page and not the top of the window, nor in the main thread list :(.

[Doomulation]

Well, even if you can't, you can always ask a moderator to do it for you. No harm done in that :)

[but2002]

ving from another Auto Prune