So... what are we allowed to talk about these days?

[Trotterwatch]

In my eyes, as far as staff are concerned, I think we need to really lose the them and us attitude. Or sooner rather than later, this entire board will be made up of simply staff members.

Totally agree with you on that, I think in my last post I over empthasised the 'we' as with regards to moderators. Of course, we are all users first and foremost, and along with other users want this board to reach the heights that it once did.

I am optimistic that things are going to get better now I've already noticed it with this thread actually, some decent discussion going on without any real flaming.

 

[AlphaWolf]

hmm...how about this, when a thread gets closed, it is automaticaly duplicated to the way off topic forum as opened.

either that or another forum where threads get deleted after X number of days.

 

[Jaz]

I think in my last post I over empthasised the 'we' as with regards to moderators.

Wasn't referring to you at all, didn't even pick up on that in that post.

Unfortunatly many people take their Staff status as a very big power trip.

 

[Trotterwatch]

hmm...how about this, when a thread gets closed, it is automaticaly duplicated to the way off topic forum as opened.

A good idea, but for certain threads this wouldn't work - ie Rom requests etc

The capability to move threads to other forums, is as you will know already present, and as such that is an option. Or perhaps any contentious threads (with legal implications, maybe) could be moved by one of the moderators into a holding forum, where it could be discussed amongst staff as to if it can be allowed to continue.

Discussion could also be opened up to aggrieved users via PM, or some other means - of course this all sounds like a lot of work, but it would only be rarely that this problem would occur. This process would most likely solve issues satisfactorily to all concerned as well.


btw

Unfortunatly many people take their Staff status as a very big power trip.

not me hehe

 

[Smiff]

Wasn't referring to you at all, didn't even pick up on that in that post.

Unfortunatly many people take their Staff status as a very big power trip.

then they shouldn't be on the staff. however, this is not open to public debate, it's up to Martin etc. to pick his staff.

 

[blizz]

In my eyes, as far as staff are concerned, I think we need to really lose the them and us attitude. Or sooner rather than later, this entire board will be made up of simply staff members.

nyo?

 

[AlphaWolf]

A good idea, but for certain threads this wouldn't work - ie Rom requests etc

The capability to move threads to other forums, is as you will know already present, and as such that is an option. Or perhaps any contentious threads (with legal implications, maybe) could be moved by one of the moderators into a holding forum, where it could be discussed amongst staff as to if it can be allowed to continue.

Just by default copy, not move, to way off topic, only move to a staff only holding forum if it poses potential legal backlash, where it will be decided if it is to be moved back to a public forum.

 

[Jaz]

however, this is not open to public debate

There's nothing to debate.

 

[AlphaWolf]

Wasn't referring to you at all, didn't even pick up on that in that post.

Unfortunatly many people take their Staff status as a very big power trip.

If you look at the efnet ircop code of conduct, it says that they should act as if they hold no power at all over other users, unless a clear violation of the rules has been made. Which basicaly means don't kick somebody off of the server just because they said the chicken came before the egg, or they happen to think your favorite band sucks. Their only purpose is to protect the network, not to play god.

I always thought that was a good rule of thumb, and I think it would probably solve the issues at hand if a similar "moderator code of conduct" was established here. ???

 

[Smiff]

There's nothing to debate.

no i'm not saying there is, what i am saying is that there's a bottom like, which is: if you don't agree with the way the owners run the forum (which includes choice of staff), and have persistant issues with it, ultimately you need to go somewhere else. This is just common sense, not a hint for anyone to leave.

 

[Jaz]

no i'm not saying there is, what i am saying is that there's a bottom like, which is: if you don't agree with the way the owners run the forum (which includes choice of staff), and have persistant issues with it, ultimately you need to go somewhere else. This is just common sense, not a hint for anyone to leave.

How can you say that just if a member dosen't agree with many opinions of a staff member that they should go somewhere else? Hell, we may as well list all our opinions on the Terms & Conditions page to save them the hassle of actually registering in the first place.

 

[Smiff]

If the staff are carrying out the wishes of the site owner, and someone doesn't agree with the staff, then yes, they should go somewhere else. You can't have it both ways. The point is to not use the opinions of the staff, but a set of rules that everyone knows (which is what we're working on atm, i think). I'm not talking about someone making a single mistake, but someone who might be persistantly pissed off with one or more staff on a personal level.

 

[Jaz]

If the staff are carrying out the wishes of the site owner, and someone doesn't agree with the staff, then yes, they should go somewhere else. You can't have it both ways.

K, my bad, I totally misinterpreted your post. :blush:

 

[crhylove]

woah... i never saw that efnet ircop thing alpha, i've seen that policy broken >5x in #emulation64, and i don't even troll there that much.....

rhy

 

[AlphaWolf]

woah... i never saw that efnet ircop thing alpha, i've seen that policy broken >5x in #emulation64, and i don't even troll there that much.....

rhy

your thinking of a channel op

 

[vampireuk]

"he said something in a nasty tone, he's so wrong, im going to close his thread" is the message being set out and to be honest its painful, more mods with a twitchy close finger doesn't solve anything...

I dont remember any threads been closed because he said something in a "nasty tone". And we have already gone through everything about mods making mistakes. There is no point in flogging a dead horse over it.

 

[AlphaWolf]

I dont remember any threads been closed because he said something in a "nasty tone". And we have already gone through everything about mods making mistakes. There is no point in flogging a dead horse over it.

I have seen it a few times myself, but reguardless I don't think he means just that in particular, just threads being closed when theres hardly any reason to close them, other than maybe somebody just simply doesn't like the thread.

 

[vampireuk]

Well like we have said we will be trimming the spam and bs from the threads now. A nice example look at the os poll thread. Nice work by me there

 

[AlphaWolf]

I don't think thats realy the best idea either. Namely, what you consider spam might not be considered spam by others. I could see doing that in a sticky thread, where each post is supposed to contain very relavent/to the point information, but not a normal one.

EDIT:

meh, I'll just end the comments here.

 

[Tri-Force]

all right, time for me to catch up.

Stalkid, you are right. if it was a demo that was leaked then its fine because the demo would not have turned profits anyway right. just look at how long the thread about the leaked UltraHLE went on. sure there were debates about the ethics of continuing the project without word from the authors but now all is fine and candy and here comes Ultra 2.0

also, I understand about not wanting companys to come down and shut us down. but when it's free it's free right? even if it wasn't ment to be released (like the Uhle source) it wouldn't have made a profit anyway so as long as you're not saying it's something that you yourself made (that just HAPPENS to look like doom) then no problem.

moving on.

my favoriate thread in this board was the discusion about religion. yah it got heated, and yah people flamed, and yah people got down right rude and insuleted eachother and people (myself and 2Fast4U) wanted to hit someone but it was REAL.

disagreements are a part of ANY board and debates go along with disagrements. and it makes for a pretty boring board if everyone has the same opinion and agrees all the time. I think we should have a seperate section of the board for Polls and Debates. that way, all the emulator boards are kept clean and the gaming and tech talk sections aren't filled with crap like "x-box or game cube" and "ati or Nvidia" that way we aren't living in 1984 where the thought police kill us for having an opinion (someone PLEASE tell me how to spell that word) and people with opinions (there it is again) are allowed to voice them.