PS3 pwns all

[Miretank]

Yes, they are, many ppl depended on Lik Sang for employment and they never did anything against the law, Sony took them out of business, they are inconsiderate bastards.

LOL, I don't like Sony and found pretty stupid what they did. But this is a PS3 thread, isn't it?

 

[Doomulation]

Sony is an Evil(TM) company; we all know this. 'Tis a fact. But the questions still remains if one should consider the purchase of the PS3?

 

[Allnatural]

Sony is an Evil(TM) company; we all know this. 'Tis a fact. But the questions still remains if one should consider the purchase of the PS3?

If the games are good, then yes. I'm not a hater.

 

[Miretank]

If the games are good, then yes. I'm not a hater.

And that's the whole point.

 

[Trotterwatch]

Give Doomulation enough time and he'll probably try and pin all of the worlds troubles on Sony, including world wars.

Nintendo have never done anything unethical in business though, I'm sure the 149 million Euro fine they received probably helped temper any further urges.

And no I don't hate Nintendo, and I do think Sony have done some stupid things

 

[t0rek]

Edit: And looking at your specs, you really don't have much room to talk.

I haven't claim that I'm a gaming fanboy, and BTW the specs stated in the forum belongs to the secondary system I use at uni (for MS Word use)

 

[General Plot]

Sony fanboy.
Likewise. You're a sony fanboy with a nice attitude.
Sony fanboy.

Is this REALLY the best you have? Seems to me it sounds like you're running out of good answers and are taking a rather desparate route by repeating yourself with generic comments such as this.

The old one wasn't capable of more horsepower and it's the way of companies. Maybe they wanted to make a new product to attract new gamers? Maybe they couldn't do that with the old one.
Either way, they did a new console and that's that. No use crying over what cannot be undone.

Yeah, Nintendo can fuck customers with having to buy another machine with absolutely no benefit over the previous one. And you wonder why I say Nintendo keeps letting people down.

Yes, they do, but they don't state that loading times are good.
Just admit it that you are a sony fanboy. All your replies and comments scream that you are.

Just admit that you're getting beaten at your own game, which is why this is the best you can come up with.

Yes, they are, many ppl depended on Lik Sang for employment and they never did anything against the law, Sony took them out of business, they are inconsiderate bastards.

Mind telling me how this translates into a bad system/games?

If the games are good, then yes. I'm not a hater.

Thanks, I thought I was the only one that saw things that way.

Give Doomulation enough time and he'll probably try and pin all of the worlds troubles on Sony, including world wars.

That is a fact.

 

[Doomulation]

Is this REALLY the best you have? Seems to me it sounds like you're running out of good answers and are taking a rather desparate route by repeating yourself with generic comments such as this.

Whatever I write, you will deny so what's the point? Besides, I'm just pointing out that what you write very much sounds like you're a sony fanboy.

I see it as a good thing(TM) that all games are taking advantage of the controller, not just a few. Besides, I could say the same about Sony--all they add is HD, horsepower, crap controller and super-expensive system. Yeah, great. Yawn.

Beaten? Pfft. This is not a game. I'm just putting stupid comments to yours. Pointing out that you're a sony fanboy, because you really are, and there's pretty much nothing else to comment you about--you won't accept it anyway.

Mind telling me how this translates into a bad system/games?

It shows what kind of awful company you're dealing with. Do you think for a second that they actually CARE about you? They're just in it for the money.

That is a fact.

Sony: Hey, pay us $1000 million and we'll start another world war :matrix:
OH noes! Sony was behind the world wars! Ahhh! With the funds they get from the PS3 they'll start another one! :saddam:

Here's a little story about Mike... let's see him have his fun with his brand new PS3.
One day, Mike's PS3 suddenly just doesn't work no matter what he does. Of course, he send his shiny new system back to Sony for repair.
Scenario 1) Sony repairs the console and sends it back in 4 weeks (hey, it's probably the laser that broke and there's a shortage of those components!). It breaks again in 4 weeks.
Scenario 2) Mike gets a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. We are sorry, but unfortunately your console is beyond repair. We will ship you a new one in 2 months when we can get a hold of a new one. Thank you for your patience." 3 months later, Mike gets a new console which breaks again after 4 weeks.
Scenario 3) Unfortunately, the PS3 had acted up before and Mike got mad about it and kicked his PS3. When he sent it in for repair he got a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. Unfortunately, it seems that you have caused some damage to your PS3 that your warranty does not cover. Do not worry, however. For the small sum of $300 we'll repair it and send it back to you." After paying and getting the console back in 4 weeks, it breaks after 4 weeks. Again.
Scenario 4) Unfortunately, the PS3 had acted up before and Mike got mad about it and kicked his PS3. When he sent it in for repair he got a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. Unfortunately, it seems that you have caused some damage to your PS3 that your warranty does not cover. Do not worry, however. For the small sum of $650 we'll send a new system home to you." After paying and getting the console back in 4 weeks, it breaks after 4 weeks. Again.

:happy:

 

[General Plot]

Whatever I write, you will deny so what's the point? Besides, I'm just pointing out that what you write very much sounds like you're a sony fanboy.

If you're going to put up an arguement, you're more likely to be taken seriously by using facts and making good points, rather than making such a desparate move as to label someone a fanboy and leaving it at that.

I see it as a good thing(TM) that all games are taking advantage of the controller, not just a few. Besides, I could say the same about Sony--all they add is HD, horsepower, crap controller and super-expensive system. Yeah, great. Yawn.

Then you apparently don't value your gaming money very much. There's two options here, go with the new system that does what it's predecessor did (and still has no good games, just like it's predecessor), or go with the one that is breaking ground and has alot of "killer titles" coming to it. In case you haven't noticed, alot of the people that agree with you have even said they will sooner or later be likely to get a PS3.

Beaten? Pfft. This is not a game. I'm just putting stupid comments to yours.

Well, this I can agree with you on. I make good points, you make stupid comments. Glad to see you can even tell what you're doing.

It shows what kind of awful company you're dealing with. Do you think for a second that they actually CARE about you? They're just in it for the money.

Yeah, and that makes PS3 games bad how? And duh, they're a corporation. Of course they're in it for the money. But it's no different than with Nintendo. You think you're getting their friendship included in that Wii box?

Sony: Hey, pay us $1000 million and we'll start another world war :matrix:
OH noes! Sony was behind the world wars! Ahhh! With the funds they get from the PS3 they'll start another one! :saddam:

Yeah, I can tell how seriously you can be taken just from this little peice alone.lain:

Here's a little story about Mike... let's see him have his fun with his brand new PS3.
One day, Mike's PS3 suddenly just doesn't work no matter what he does. Of course, he send his shiny new system back to Sony for repair.
Scenario 1) Sony repairs the console and sends it back in 4 weeks (hey, it's probably the laser that broke and there's a shortage of those components!). It breaks again in 4 weeks.
Scenario 2) Mike gets a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. We are sorry, but unfortunately your console is beyond repair. We will ship you a new one in 2 months when we can get a hold of a new one. Thank you for your patience." 3 months later, Mike gets a new console which breaks again after 4 weeks.
Scenario 3) Unfortunately, the PS3 had acted up before and Mike got mad about it and kicked his PS3. When he sent it in for repair he got a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. Unfortunately, it seems that you have caused some damage to your PS3 that your warranty does not cover. Do not worry, however. For the small sum of $300 we'll repair it and send it back to you." After paying and getting the console back in 4 weeks, it breaks after 4 weeks. Again.
Scenario 4) Unfortunately, the PS3 had acted up before and Mike got mad about it and kicked his PS3. When he sent it in for repair he got a letter from Sony saying: "Dear, Mr. Mike. Unfortunately, it seems that you have caused some damage to your PS3 that your warranty does not cover. Do not worry, however. For the small sum of $650 we'll send a new system home to you." After paying and getting the console back in 4 weeks, it breaks after 4 weeks. Again.

:happy:

And once again........

 

[Doomulation]

If you're going to put up an arguement, you're more likely to be taken seriously by using facts and making good points, rather than making such a desparate move as to label someone a fanboy and leaving it at that.

Well, I tried, didn't I? But nooooooooooooo... you just don't listen.

Then you apparently don't value your gaming money very much. There's two options here, go with the new system that does what it's predecessor did (and still has no good games, just like it's predecessor), or go with the one that is breaking ground and has alot of "killer titles" coming to it. In case you haven't noticed, alot of the people that agree with you have even said they will sooner or later be likely to get a PS3.

I do value my money. I get a great system with killer titles that no other console has. Smash brothers, Metroid Prime, Zelda Twilight Princess... And yes, they're better--new controls! Well, save for Smash brothers, but then again, new characters and online mode makes it a nice title.
The PS3 has few killer titles. Who do I care what others think? Go ahead and have fun with your lousy big stupid box. See if I care, won't you?

Well, this I can agree with you on. I make good points, you make stupid comments. Glad to see you can even tell what you're doing.

No... you do bad points, and I counter them. But what good does it do me?

Yeah, and that makes PS3 games bad how? And duh, they're a corporation. Of course they're in it for the money. But it's no different than with Nintendo. You think you're getting their friendship included in that Wii box?

It means that if Sony can screw you, they WILL. They don't care what you think. If Sony were market leader, then why, I bet you'd HAVE to buy a PS3 is order to get all your Sony products. Nothing good comes from a company that goes strides to make dangerous batteries and sues a retailer out of business just because they don't want them exporting their REGION FREE electronics.

Yeah, I can tell how seriously you can be taken just from this little peice alone.lain:

Glad I could entertain you

And once again........

And that's how I predict the PS3's future will be. Yep, it's going to cost an extreme amount of money to repair it and yes it's probably going to take a lot of time to get a new console because the Blu-ray is most likely to fail (Remember the DVD on the PS2? It was the number one part that broke) and there are shortages of Blu-rays so...

 

[General Plot]

Well, I tried, didn't I? But nooooooooooooo... you just don't listen.

That's not what you did. You used personal opinions and assumptions to bash a company into the ground. I'm sorry, but that's not quite how you present a good arguement.

I do value my money. I get a great system with killer titles that no other console has. Smash brothers, Metroid Prime, Zelda Twilight Princess... And yes, they're better--new controls! Well, save for Smash brothers, but then again, new characters and online mode makes it a nice title.
The PS3 has few killer titles. Who do I care what others think? Go ahead and have fun with your lousy big stupid box. See if I care, won't you?

Yeah, you get the same games from Gamecube ALL OVER AGAIN. Gee, aren't you lucky?

No... you do bad points, and I counter them. But what good does it do me?

I fail to see where you managed to legitimately discredit anything I stated.

It means that if Sony can screw you, they WILL. They don't care what you think. If Sony were market leader, then why, I bet you'd HAVE to buy a PS3 is order to get all your Sony products. Nothing good comes from a company that goes strides to make dangerous batteries and sues a retailer out of business just because they don't want them exporting their REGION FREE electronics.

Sure, and if Nintendo can give you a big hug and be your best friend, that's what they would do. Afterall, they're not in it for the same thing, right? And we all know that Nintendo doesn't have a problem with our interests, right?

Glad I could entertain you

I don't know that it was really "entertaining", I'd be more inclined to say that somehow, I've managed to lose even more respect for you (if that's even possible).

And that's how I predict the PS3's future will be. Yep, it's going to cost an extreme amount of money to repair it and yes it's probably going to take a lot of time to get a new console because the Blu-ray is most likely to fail (Remember the DVD on the PS2? It was the number one part that broke) and there are shortages of Blu-rays so...

Well, until you can back up your prediction with a solid and thorough thesis, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

 

[Doomulation]

That's not what you did. You used personal opinions and assumptions to bash a company into the ground. I'm sorry, but that's not quite how you present a good arguement.

I'm sorry, exactly how was I different from you when you were bashing Nintendo?

Yeah, you get the same games from Gamecube ALL OVER AGAIN. Gee, aren't you lucky?

Keep telling yourself that. Even though they may be sequels to previously released games, they're still new and that's all that matters, little Sony fanboy who cannot even see that as long as games are fun it doesn't matter. And and this REALLY makes you a not-games fanboy buy more of a sony fanboy.

I fail to see where you managed to legitimately discredit anything I stated.

I fail to see where you actually proved yourself to be a games fanboy.

Sure, and if Nintendo can give you a big hug and be your best friend, that's what they would do. Afterall, they're not in it for the same thing, right? And we all know that Nintendo doesn't have a problem with our interests, right?

No, but at least they don't sell exploding batteries and sues retailers into oblivion.

I don't know that it was really "entertaining", I'd be more inclined to say that somehow, I've managed to lose even more respect for you (if that's even possible).

Good for you! You're already as low as can get in my book, little sony fanboy.

Well, until you can back up your prediction with a solid and thorough thesis, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

I predict we'll see it coming true. I doubt Sony has learned from its PS2. It'd be SHOCKED, SHOCKED I say, if they did that! They think they can live with their brand name and do whatever-fekking-ever they want.

EDIT: Hey, I'll quote this:

While Sony also has an on-line service where you can download certain things, it doesn't yet have movie and TV show downloads, even though Sony should be more able to provide this then Microsoft because they actually own a studio. This is the kind of thing that really points to Sony's inability to compete as a company. I had difficulty downloading game trailers without crashing.

Oops, way to go Sony! You're even worse than Nintendo!
Source: Comparing Wii, PS3, and Xbox 360 execution: Focus makes the difference | Tom's Hardware UK and Ireland

 

[matthew]

That's not what you did. You used personal opinions and assumptions to bash a company into the ground. I'm sorry, but that's not quite how you present a good arguement.


Yeah, you get the same games from Gamecube ALL OVER AGAIN. Gee, aren't you lucky?


I fail to see where you managed to legitimately discredit anything I stated.


Sure, and if Nintendo can give you a big hug and be your best friend, that's what they would do. Afterall, they're not in it for the same thing, right? And we all know that Nintendo doesn't have a problem with our interests, right?


I don't know that it was really "entertaining", I'd be more inclined to say that somehow, I've managed to lose even more respect for you (if that's even possible).


Well, until you can back up your prediction with a solid and thorough thesis, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

The Wii is the only console that isn't actually getting the same all over again for example as you probably already know the Wii-mote will bring gaming experiences previously not available.

However while graphics etc are all good technically you could be playing the same game on the PS2 as you can on the Xbox360 and PS3, Fight Night round 3 being the prime example.

I'm not against traditional gaming but I can see where the Nintendo Wii will be providing an experience not available on the PS3/Xbox360 and while they can release peripherals the focus won't be on the peripherals because most games will have to be made to work with standard controller available to the respective consoles

I personally think that Nintendo had some kind of influence on Sony because of the wii-mote being able to do what it can the motion sensor technology of the six-axis was put in the final design of the PS3 controller.

I have to say that while Nintendo hasn't always been the most popular they have at least tried to be an innovator.

1. Snes had the first six button layout out the box
2. N64 had the first analog controller out box
3. Nintendo Wii first console with a wii mote as the standard controller
4. They always had that gameboy link thing going on with their consoles.

I personally think Nintendo could have made the new console graphics better than they are but the technology investment is in the controller very hi-tech stuff. Nintendo seems to be trying to sell its console on price point and a new gaming experience and for that it is one of the consoles I will definitely own.

The other two I'm unsure about just yet hardware aside not much interests me in the next generation

Last thing while there has been a lot of discussion about PS3 vs Wii won't you be considering the Wii alongside your PS3 for the new types of gameplay available to it ?

 

[Doomulation]

1. Snes had the first six button layout out the box
2. N64 had the first analog controller out box
3. Nintendo Wii first console with a wii mote as the standard controller
4. They always had that gameboy link thing going on with their consoles.

Now that I think about it, Sony has copied pretty much everything Nintendo have done in the first place. They copied the controller layout. They copied the analog stick. They copied the whole PSP <--> PS3 linky-up thingy (well, Nintendo DID have it before Sony).

Last thing while there has been a lot of discussion about PS3 vs Wii won't you be considering the Wii alongside your PS3 for the new types of gameplay available to it ?

Oh no, not General Plot. The controller is gimmicky and bad. The console is just a gamecube plus a little extra and the gamecube is pathetic because it doesn't have enough horsepower or HD and it just has "kiddy games" and therefore Revolution must also get all the "kiddy games"! Oh and how can I forget that because Nintendo is making the console, it HAS to be bad, because Nintendo is a lame kiddy company! =]

 

[General Plot]

I'm sorry, exactly how was I different from you when you were bashing Nintendo?

HA! You were bashing the PS3 long before I even got invloved in the discussion, so don't even go there.

Keep telling yourself that. Even though they may be sequels to previously released games, they're still new and that's all that matters, little Sony fanboy who cannot even see that as long as games are fun it doesn't matter. And and this REALLY makes you a not-games fanboy buy more of a sony fanboy.

Yeah, here's a good analogy: We had Tetris on our NES and Gameboy's 20 years ago. Now you can get it on PS2. Does that make it new? Hardly. They added some things to it, but it's still the same game.

I fail to see where you actually proved yourself to be a games fanboy.

I suppose you wouldn't be able to see that. By being choosy and only buying the best, I guess I'm not surprised you "fail to see where I proved it." Anyone that is interested in games on any other console than the Wii goes against your religion, and your first reaction to label them a fanboy. That's a TRUE sign of a fanboy if I ever saw one.

No, but at least they don't sell exploding batteries and sues retailers into oblivion.

Still has absolutely NOTHING to do with games. Thus, irrelevant.

Good for you! You're already as low as can get in my book, little sony fanboy.

Cool. Thanks for making my day. I do, however, feel sorry for the one at the top of it.

I predict we'll see it coming true. I doubt Sony has learned from its PS2. It'd be SHOCKED, SHOCKED I say, if they did that! They think they can live with their brand name and do whatever-fekking-ever they want.

Actually, it's what you're hoping for. But as I've said about a hundred times now, let time tell.

Oops, way to go Sony! You're even worse than Nintendo!

Funny. If this was a real issue, why aren't we hearing about it all over the place?

Now that I think about it, Sony has copied pretty much everything Nintendo have done in the first place. They copied the controller layout. They copied the analog stick. They copied the whole PSP <--> PS3 linky-up thingy (well, Nintendo DID have it before Sony).

Yeah, think about the logic. You could say that every car manufacturer stole the steering wheel from Ford.lain:

Oh no, not General Plot. The controller is gimmicky and bad. The console is just a gamecube plus a little extra and the gamecube is pathetic because it doesn't have enough horsepower or HD and it just has "kiddy games" and therefore Revolution must also get all the "kiddy games"! Oh and how can I forget that because Nintendo is making the console, it HAS to be bad, because Nintendo is a lame kiddy company! =]

Never said it was bad, just said it was pointless to make a new console around a new controller. Call it overkill. And yes, compared to MS/Sony, it seems Nintendo has forgotten adult gamers.

 

[revl8er]

Listen to yourselves, you are bashing the console for all the wrong reasons. How can you call a console bad just because of some stupid lawsuit. I mean what's to say the PS3 isn't gonna be the best system. Then again, what's to say it will be the worst. There is no way to know about which one will win until at least halfway through. Each consol will have it's own exclusive that will be good. The Wii will have Smash Brothers, they have Zelda TP, and Metroid. The PS3 will have Metal Gear Sold 4 and Final Fantasy 13. The Xbox 360 will have Halo 3. Sure everybody has their own opinions, but you should actually give it a chance and try it out before bashing it.

 

[General Plot]

If you read my posts, you'll see that's exactly what I've been saying all along.

 

[xneoangel]

IMO this discussion is quite pointless.

I mean everything got reduced to The PS3 is better than the Wii because Nintendo is stupid and makes mistakes or the Wii is better than the PS3 because Sony is stupid and makes mistakes.

I mean no one can certainly know what console will be better in the end, because what makes a console great its not the company that produces neither its uberpowerful proccessor neither an innovative control.

What makes a console great its the games and there are many examples of this like the SNES vs the Sega Genesis or the PS1 vs the N64.

I mean Sony and Nintendo have made it very far up to the point they are BOTH great companies, you should stop bashing them because that will get you nowhere.

So wait and see when you've got real facts and not just personal predictions you can start bashing each other.

 

[General Plot]

IMO this discussion is quite pointless.

I mean everything got reduced to The PS3 is better than the Wii because Nintendo is stupid and makes mistakes or the Wii is better than the PS3 because Sony is stupid and makes mistakes.

I mean no one can certainly know what console will be better in the end, because what makes a console great its not the company that produces neither its uberpowerful proccessor neither an innovative control.

What makes a console great its the games and there are many examples of this like the SNES vs the Sega Genesis or the PS1 vs the N64.

I mean Sony and Nintendo have made it very far up to the point they are BOTH great companies, you should stop bashing them because that will get you nowhere.

So wait and see when you've got real facts and not just personal predictions you can start bashing each other.

For the love of God, how many times do I have to say it? I've not predicted either side as being the winner, I stated my preference for this generation's consoles, and now I've been labelled a fanboy for it. I've listed my reasons for my decision (not that I even have to justify it to anyone, but I did anyways) and I'm told they're not good enough or that I'm somehow misinformed. I know where the titles I want are going, so obviously, it's not misinformation, it just goes against what the majority of this community's preference is. I've said it on numerous occasions, and I really don't know how I can make myself anymore clear on this. I swear, you'd think the only thing people saw me post was my choice is PS3 and ignored everything else. I guess it's true, people only see what they want to see.

 

[bcrew1375]

According to NexGenWars.com, 54% of voters think the Wii will win the war. XBox360 has 28.4, and PS3 has 17.6%. I personally think the Wii will win also. I haven't seen anything interesting on X360 or PS3, but the Wii-mote got me interested just because of the potential. No matter how good the graphics, if nothing else changes, it's going to get boring real quick. Plus, some Wii games let you get some exercise, and the fact is alot of gamers could use more exercise .