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who created demons. u mean who made them up. demons dont exist m8..
ur questions are pretty lame. it doesnt mean it was Allah who created them.
i can easily answer who created religion.
"religion is the opium of the people" Marx
basically Marx had some interesting theories. its pretty deep shit, and i dont necessary believe in it, but it is a possible answer, and just as ridiculous as the thoery of god, in a way.
there was a philosopher called Hegal. Hegal believed in something called the 'dialectic'. he said everything in life is centered aorund material ideas. For example, to control a population a group of leaders, used religion. But then something would change in the thesis, an anti-thesis, i.e: great thinkers, or wateva, find a new discovery, and then would come a new age of ideas, hence a movement in history. its is in the great discussion of interlectual ideas, or dialectic (which means literally discussion of ideas, hehe) that history progresses. from idea we get ways of solving material problems like poverty. thats basically Hegal's idealism put simply. very simply.
now there was Karl Marx who was a Young Hegalian. in 19th Century Britain, he saw the change from the old peasantry system to Capatilsm. he witnessed the French Revolution, as he realised that maybe it wasnt ideas that drives life. in the previous economic system, peasants would own their means of production, i.e there would be a tailor, who would make his/her own clothes to sell. and business would operate on a local level. in came new factories, where rich employers would employ thousands of workers. these workers would work for a wage. they would get a fixed some of money. yet, the employer would earn the profit of his employees work, whereas the employee would just earn the fixed wage. the employer woul.d own the means of production (machinery, and wat not), the employee would own nothing but the desire to earn the wage in order to survive. Marx realised that maybe it was nto the ideas that helped the material world, but in fact the economy and materialism that created ideas. for instance, the rich, bourgeousie would use religion to passify the masses, keep them under control. to create a sense of false consciousness, in which the lower class would feel welcomed and comforted to to. i.e work more in this life and hav a better life in heaven. Marx explained that history only progresses through a series of class conflicts within the underlying economic superstructure. throughout history, ideas and beliefs, in particular religion, are elements of false consciousness. i.e god is the all loving, he loves everyone, everyone is safe. Marx also talked about the future, about an inevitable revolution where the majority will seize power form the top. interestingly, although things seem all nice in countries like Britain and the USA, the gap between the rich and the poor is apparently widening. i can get the figures if u want.
anyway, the point is about religion. RPGlover, u ask who did this, who created this. why do u assume so much. Marx explains religion as "the opium of the people" indicating that it blinds and drugs the masses of the truth. i dunno about history being moved about economical changes (that would mean humans hav no influence in history), but his ideas on false consciousness can answer some of the questions u already thought hav been answered.
i had to revise all this shit for my politics exam, so im kindof a bit of a Marxist today, hehe.
ur questions are pretty lame. it doesnt mean it was Allah who created them.
i can easily answer who created religion.
"religion is the opium of the people" Marx
basically Marx had some interesting theories. its pretty deep shit, and i dont necessary believe in it, but it is a possible answer, and just as ridiculous as the thoery of god, in a way.
there was a philosopher called Hegal. Hegal believed in something called the 'dialectic'. he said everything in life is centered aorund material ideas. For example, to control a population a group of leaders, used religion. But then something would change in the thesis, an anti-thesis, i.e: great thinkers, or wateva, find a new discovery, and then would come a new age of ideas, hence a movement in history. its is in the great discussion of interlectual ideas, or dialectic (which means literally discussion of ideas, hehe) that history progresses. from idea we get ways of solving material problems like poverty. thats basically Hegal's idealism put simply. very simply.
now there was Karl Marx who was a Young Hegalian. in 19th Century Britain, he saw the change from the old peasantry system to Capatilsm. he witnessed the French Revolution, as he realised that maybe it wasnt ideas that drives life. in the previous economic system, peasants would own their means of production, i.e there would be a tailor, who would make his/her own clothes to sell. and business would operate on a local level. in came new factories, where rich employers would employ thousands of workers. these workers would work for a wage. they would get a fixed some of money. yet, the employer would earn the profit of his employees work, whereas the employee would just earn the fixed wage. the employer woul.d own the means of production (machinery, and wat not), the employee would own nothing but the desire to earn the wage in order to survive. Marx realised that maybe it was nto the ideas that helped the material world, but in fact the economy and materialism that created ideas. for instance, the rich, bourgeousie would use religion to passify the masses, keep them under control. to create a sense of false consciousness, in which the lower class would feel welcomed and comforted to to. i.e work more in this life and hav a better life in heaven. Marx explained that history only progresses through a series of class conflicts within the underlying economic superstructure. throughout history, ideas and beliefs, in particular religion, are elements of false consciousness. i.e god is the all loving, he loves everyone, everyone is safe. Marx also talked about the future, about an inevitable revolution where the majority will seize power form the top. interestingly, although things seem all nice in countries like Britain and the USA, the gap between the rich and the poor is apparently widening. i can get the figures if u want.
anyway, the point is about religion. RPGlover, u ask who did this, who created this. why do u assume so much. Marx explains religion as "the opium of the people" indicating that it blinds and drugs the masses of the truth. i dunno about history being moved about economical changes (that would mean humans hav no influence in history), but his ideas on false consciousness can answer some of the questions u already thought hav been answered.
i had to revise all this shit for my politics exam, so im kindof a bit of a Marxist today, hehe.
I don't know my religion enough to answer a question like who created god, or who created anything, isn't that one of life's mysteries?
