Interesting debate on existance of god, worth a read 2
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RPGlover12
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1-who is he ? wow easy question m8 he is the creator of the earth and the only god that exsists its not a hard question or if u want me to discribe who is he just tell mesytaylor said:
2- where is he ? ok here is it if u want to know where is he : first as u know that god created time and place so he must be over time and place so we can't imagine him tied with time and place , and he also created causality so we can't imagine him submissive to the law of causality and by this sophistry ur now look like a toy that moves by a key and you think that the human which created it also moves by a key so if we said to it : that he moves without a key it tells us impossible i see everything moves by a key exactly the same we can't see him tied with the place and also his existance about people asking who created god is also an answer to this question like u see everything must have a creator so that why we can't imagine how he was created without a creator
3 -what is my source of information ? what exactly do u mean by my source of information which do u want to know muhammed allah jesus moses what please tell me to continue answering ur questions except one question that i will answer now
6- how many mini minis can i fit in a mini? 2
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1) who is he? a frog who lives in the scottish highlands
2) where is he? in canada at the moment
3) what is the source of ur info? the frog's lover, Helen
4) wat makes u think ur right? because i own the frog
5) eva considered ur wrong? well i always thought i new quite a lot about frogs..
6) how many mini minis could u fit in a mini? that's a tough question, how big r the mini mini's?
the fact is there's no scientific evidence that god exists, likewise, theres no scientific evidence that god doesnt exist. Your souce of information is a book. The contents of the book is full of anachronisms (historical text that is dated in today's context), eg. the assumption that the world is flat, the given dimensions of the ark that just absolutely make no logical sense in terms of the amount of animals that went on it. And if god doesnt exist, he never created time, time existed without him. in fact 'time' is a human measurement, so we created it. Please explain your toy and key example, as it makes no sense... ???
2) where is he? in canada at the moment
3) what is the source of ur info? the frog's lover, Helen
4) wat makes u think ur right? because i own the frog
5) eva considered ur wrong? well i always thought i new quite a lot about frogs..
6) how many mini minis could u fit in a mini? that's a tough question, how big r the mini mini's?
the fact is there's no scientific evidence that god exists, likewise, theres no scientific evidence that god doesnt exist. Your souce of information is a book. The contents of the book is full of anachronisms (historical text that is dated in today's context), eg. the assumption that the world is flat, the given dimensions of the ark that just absolutely make no logical sense in terms of the amount of animals that went on it. And if god doesnt exist, he never created time, time existed without him. in fact 'time' is a human measurement, so we created it. Please explain your toy and key example, as it makes no sense... ???
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ok u want to know ok here i go againsk8bloke22 said:
i said ur now like a toy that moves with a key and everyone u see moves by a key and someone told u that the human which created you doesn't move by a key u say its impossible everything moves by a key cause u see everything moves by a key that exactly how god is we can't imagine him stuck with place or time cause he is over them get what i mean and what do u want to know about god sk8bloke
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that was a weak example dude. Just becos i cant see doesnt mean it must exist. The fact is u could use ur example to say that huge green dragons exist...just becos u cant see huge green dragons, theres nothing to say they dont exist. that arguement doesnt prove anything...its a philosophical question, which can be discussed in philosophical terms, but it doesnt prove anything.
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no, i mean huuuuuge grean dragons that breath fire. not those oversized lizards. im talking about the ones that fly, no-one has seen them. but theres been plenty of books about them, so they must exist.
2fast4u
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let me put it this way: there aint no proof in which way ever that there is something like a god or any other supernatural creature. like many religious ppl say its based on faith, not on sight.
ok, here we go: i believe that this world will take a sudden change and turn to the good side. there wont be war anymore, there wont be injustice nor poverty or hunger. there will be true friendship, tolerance among the different racial groups and there wont be minorities. everyone will live in prosperity and freedom.
i BELIEVE it, so please dont challenge me about it, even if its totally unrealistic, hardcore-optimisitc and challenges all experiences and historic facts. Its faith, not fact. kthx.
ok, here we go: i believe that this world will take a sudden change and turn to the good side. there wont be war anymore, there wont be injustice nor poverty or hunger. there will be true friendship, tolerance among the different racial groups and there wont be minorities. everyone will live in prosperity and freedom.
i BELIEVE it, so please dont challenge me about it, even if its totally unrealistic, hardcore-optimisitc and challenges all experiences and historic facts. Its faith, not fact. kthx.
Tri-Force
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Fact. Jesus Lived. that's not even disputed amoung the scientists who think they're soo 1337. some people say he's just a man. others believe he's more. i dont get why people can believe that Ceasar lived but not Jesus. what's that all about. both lived. both died.
now the reason there is no "scientific Proof" to support the idea of God is because they dont want to look like idiots. just imagine I'm right this time and go with me.
if you were supposed to be one of the smartest people in the world wouldn't you do everything you could to make sure that your theorys didn't get disproved. a lot of people (and this is true) still say that the world is flat. and for a long time these super smart scientists thought that the smallest thing in the world was the atom untill they split that open and a whole load of crap fell out. so can you really tell me that science can't be wrong. if you are so slow as to say that then i got a bridge in Brooklyn that i built and im selling for a dime.
now the reason there is no "scientific Proof" to support the idea of God is because they dont want to look like idiots. just imagine I'm right this time and go with me.
if you were supposed to be one of the smartest people in the world wouldn't you do everything you could to make sure that your theorys didn't get disproved. a lot of people (and this is true) still say that the world is flat. and for a long time these super smart scientists thought that the smallest thing in the world was the atom untill they split that open and a whole load of crap fell out. so can you really tell me that science can't be wrong. if you are so slow as to say that then i got a bridge in Brooklyn that i built and im selling for a dime.
2fast4u
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no doubt that science cant be wrong and i wont challenge that ... but lets just turn this around and tell me why the bible should be right? any evidence? anything? after all science is based on facts that can be proven wrong. but why do u believe something because there is a small lil book that says it is so ..?
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obviously science can be wrong. ur not the first to say that, even scientists say that. science itself can only be defined as a science if it is flasifiable (open to be disproved). however, scientific fact IS proved usually by logic and maths. 2 elements that cant be disproved. anything proven by logic and maths will always be true, theres no disputing, i for one wouldnt argue with the best mathmatician in such a matter. buuuuuuut....wat u said about the most clever scientist being afraid to show their theory for disproving god in case it was wrong. they r just ppl remember, and many atheist scientists use their scientific knowledge to come up with theories that are very complex and difficult to understand, as do some scientists with theories proving god. the problem is there's no logic or mathmatical explanation to literally PROVE god does/ does not exist. also, i never said that jesus never existed. he most probably did, as there's loads and loads of historical documents written about him aging to hundreds of years ago. wat i do doubt is that he was the son of god.
2fast4u: science isnt always based on fact. in fact quite the opposite. its usually based on a theory, which is through sicentific methods is proved to be fact. but these aernt always fact. early science believed the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. then the telescope was invented, and science was proved wrong.
2fast4u: science isnt always based on fact. in fact quite the opposite. its usually based on a theory, which is through sicentific methods is proved to be fact. but these aernt always fact. early science believed the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. then the telescope was invented, and science was proved wrong.
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according to the roman and greek writings of the time jesus was a jewish terroist, who is to say their accounts are not right? i mean they were written down! simply because they are not worshiped and backed up with an entire morally suggestive belief structure doesnt make them wrong
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