Videogames and Violence

[AlphaWolf]

*drumroll* the patriot act (spits) :doh:

Well, I know of worse things, but anyways, how is that the "shut the hell up and buy a flag"-act?

EDIT: Interesting bit on slashdot:

"Republican Sen. Sam Brownback is pushing a bill that will limit the ability of record labels, movie studios and others to use anticopying technology on their products. Most notably, this is important because it states that people will be able to resell their used DVDs, along with putting a concrete limit on this behavior of DRM/anticopying schemes by the RIAA and MPAA."

:happy:

 

[2fast4u]

Well, I know of worse things, but anyways, how is that the "shut the hell up and buy a flag"-act?

sure, i almost forgot that its your patriotic duty to be blind to the government taking away your civil rights. now be quiet and buy a flag

 

[Flash]

sure, i almost forgot that its your patriotic duty to be blind to the government taking away your civil rights. now be quiet and buy a flag

Do you know a quite funny russian nickname for a police club ? It's a "democratisator"

And that's a way of Bush's "democracy" and "freedom"

 

[2fast4u]

Do you know a quite funny russian nickname for a police club ? It's a "democratisator"

rofl :happy:

 

[Flash]

imo if you had a hundred options on this poll you still wouldnt be able to cover that topic. fuck, i still voted for the shoot in the head thingy. everytime our law enforcement goes into the room of some son of a bitch who ran through a school with a gun they notice he played counter strike and doom and dont notice the fucking swastikas on his walls. thats just my personal feeling. :doh:

They've also forgot a heroine or something else.

 

[sytaylor]

Theres more irony for you, liberalism means you favor freedom over order, whereas conservativism (if thats a word) means you favor order over freedom. These two seem to have exchanged meanings over time.

Thats very true actually

Incidentally the shadow home secratary (numebr 2 guy in the leader of britains opposition) was on tv the other day doing what i thought was a brilliant bit. They asked him who was his ideal polotician and why.

He said abraham lincoln because he stood for law and order going hand in hand with freedom. Believing that everyone had the right to choice within the limits of the law. It was a fantastic example of conservative beliefs and shows just how badly the media mis-represents the conservative take on things..

 

[vampireuk]

OK point out anything in which I as a socialist am against freedom? Go on take your time? My objection to the stfu and buy a flag patriot act perhaps?

As for the conservatives, I would just never vote for them if my life depended on it. Just like "new labour" they are full of horseshit and do not deserve my vote.

 

[2fast4u]

He said abraham lincoln because he stood for law and order going hand in hand with freedom. Believing that everyone had the right to choice within the limits of the law. It was a fantastic example of conservative beliefs and shows just how badly the media mis-represents the conservative take on things..

i present to you ... the politican statement -- politican actions - gap.

still hearing all the shit they baffled during the year until they assume power and im taking the so-called liberals in our states with us.

 

[AlphaWolf]

OK point out anything in which I as a socialist am against freedom?

Easy, you are against anybody having the freedom to own private property.

 

[vampireuk]

And when have I ever said that, hmm? Never, try making a statement about somebody that is not bullshit once in a while

So care to try again? How am I against freedom?

 

[AlphaWolf]

And when have I ever said that, hmm? Never, try making a statement about somebody that is not bullshit once in a while

So care to try again? How am I against freedom?

Well, that would mean that you realy are not communist, you're more or less "neo-socialist". Abolishment of all private property of any kind is the basis of communism, without that principle there is no communism.

 

[vampireuk]

Do you even read what I post or do you just twist what people say to make it more suitable for you to have a discussion with them.

OK point out anything in which I as a socialist am against freedom

Take the time to really read a post Alpha its good for discussion listening to what the other person says

 

[DuDe]

Well, I think that AlphaWolf just looked at your title

 

[vampireuk]

In that case I shall look at this.

Want a amen with that?

 

[sytaylor]

As for the conservatives, I would just never vote for them if my life depended on it. Just like "new labour" they are full of horseshit and do not deserve my vote.

The classic "they all piss in the same pot" argument. If you dislike what they have said before they say it how can you ever actually make a decision based on it?

Im betting if the BNP were gonna get in and the only other realistic option was to vote tory (say somebody shoots tony... not me... STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT!!)... Then that might change things.

By freedom, i mean like freedom to choose, having the choice to "lowerthe tax you pay on national insurance by taking out private health insurance" etc. Right now that is not an option, thus you are not free to choose.

However when it comes to which phone company you go with theres plenty of choice.. to me thats a form of consumer freedom, but within it is based a ground level of law (regulators like oftel).

 

[2fast4u]

Im betting if the BNP were gonna get in and the only other realistic option was to vote tory (say somebody shoots tony... not me... STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT!!)... Then that might change things.

how would it as the tories' politics isnt much different from the one tony does?

 

[sytaylor]

how would it as the tories' politics isnt much different from the one tony does?

The BNP is not the labour party ffs!

If you voted tory over BNP you get pretty much what we had from the winter of discontent to 1997, if you didnt vote the the nationalist BNP might get in.. thats the point i was making

The shooting tony was to eliminate labour as a realistic governmental party

 

[2fast4u]

The BNP is not the labour party ffs!

i know what the bnp is ffs

If you voted tory over BNP you get pretty much what we had from the winter of discontent to 1997, if you didnt vote the the nationalist BNP might get in.. thats the point i was making

the point you were making was something about politics that would change. care to explain that?

The shooting tony was to eliminate labour as a realistic governmental party

on the other hand they would get their godamn identity back .. maybe

 

[AlphaWolf]

Well, neo-socialist or communist (which vampireuk claimed to be several times other than what his usertext says), removing everybodies freedom to succeed above others is the general idea behind any form of socialism. That is, of course, among other freedoms that socialism removes:

By freedom, i mean like freedom to choose, having the choice to "lowerthe tax you pay on national insurance by taking out private health insurance" etc. Right now that is not an option, thus you are not free to choose.

Bingo.

 

[vampireuk]

meh you are a "dumb fat american" you dont know what you are talking about