Chilly Willy
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I'll quote a little bit of wisdom that came out while I was busy on the Amiga (early 90's):
Source code released of Project64 1.6?
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I'll quote a little bit of wisdom that came out while I was busy on the Amiga (early 90's):
squall_leonhart
The Great Gunblade Wielder
DeathDroid, about protect memory
i think part of the problem with using this for all games is that some of them really do require the ability to self modify :> though i've come to notice that most games that use change memory are also using the memory exp pack :<
i think part of the problem with using this for all games is that some of them really do require the ability to self modify :> though i've come to notice that most games that use change memory are also using the memory exp pack :<
Ahhh yeah I ended up figuring that one out , thanks for that though. I still have so much to learn XD
, thanks for that though. I still have so much to learn XD
ExtremeDude2
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So wait, first he complains that the source is never released and now he complains that it is?
Come on, don't misread what he wrote.
He said earlier that it's will be a great thing when the source will be released.
Then he said that he has doubt that the source's release was allowed.
He never complained about the release itself.
squall_leonhart
The Great Gunblade Wielder
yes he did
[SS] Starscream
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Someone gets it, thank you.
Wow, just wow. You're not even worth the insult.
Let me spell it out for those who are not capable of reading or understanding.
1) I would like the source to be released, yes.
2) If Jabo released the source, all would be good.
3) If someone went behind the original authors backs and released the source without their knowledge or approval, (which is what happened) then I wouldn't be happy about that.
You'll have to forgive me for being old fashioned that way. The way I see it, when people work on a project and put a lot of time and effort into it, I don't appreciate it when other people don't ask for permission and just do whatever the hell they like with other peoples work. I guess it's just how I was raised, you know, to respect other people and to appreciate the work they put in without shitting on it. I wish I didn't have to explain this to you, but obviously someone has to.
Stop bringing this back up already, talk about the code.
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[SS] Starscream are you the same user that had a little rant against Jabo for not releasing the source code to his plugins, and then went on about him being selfish because he wouldn't release it -.O Or am i mistaken?
But anyway, obviously one of the developers wanted the source code to be released otherwise it would of never ended up in mudlords hands, I cant imagine mudlord tracking down one of the developers, waltzing into their house and stealing it.
Anyway all this arguing is just getting no where, I personally would rather spend time working on improving Project64, wouldn't you?
Aaannd on that note, anyone who knows a fair bit about virtualalloc's and stuff mind taking a look in memory.cpp and seeing how we can clean up the usage of them, be a good start to making it a bit more understandable XD
But anyway, obviously one of the developers wanted the source code to be released otherwise it would of never ended up in mudlords hands, I cant imagine mudlord tracking down one of the developers, waltzing into their house and stealing it.
Anyway all this arguing is just getting no where, I personally would rather spend time working on improving Project64, wouldn't you?
Aaannd on that note, anyone who knows a fair bit about virtualalloc's and stuff mind taking a look in memory.cpp and seeing how we can clean up the usage of them, be a good start to making it a bit more understandable XD
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[SS] Starscream
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That was me. I think he should release it, he thinks he shouldn't. It's his choice to do it or not, and he didn't want to. Just because I wanted the source doesn't mean I want to use it without consent. I've had stuff that I worked on get misused and changed in ways I didn't want or agree to, it's not cool. I made my argument to him and he didn't agree, that's that.
Anyway, moving on...
squall_leonhart
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theres surely stuff in that file which is relic of windows 9x, some of it can probably be simplified down to letting the nt memory management cover it.
there might be some cases where the Recompiler core gets a performance hit from removing virtualallocs though :3 hmm..... ancient function, but not necessarily useless
there might be some cases where the Recompiler core gets a performance hit from removing virtualallocs though :3 hmm..... ancient function, but not necessarily useless
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Trotterwatch
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Does that tell you otherwise?
Apart from all this I have to admit that this particular thread offers the sort of entertainment I haven't experienced for quite some years in here... too bad that guys like Trotterwatch and Vamp are missing it.
Yoohoo :icecream:
Don't think Jabo or Zilmar are that bothered nowadays, they are both busy people leading busy lives. Should it have been leaked? Maybe not, but it's not really doing a great deal of harm to be honest. Would be great if some coders could improve what exists, but from the sounds of it that's not overly easy for various reasons.
PsyMan
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Hey there! Glad you're still around TrotterW!
Aye, whatever happened happened and bitching about it would not make a difference really, that's the conclusion more or less. Some people don't seem to get that though, but anyway.
The code is not particularly clean nor recent. You can't expect much from something designed for systems close to a 1GHz Pentium 3 (and even less) with Win 9x support existing in its core. There can be some bugs ending up fixed here and there but major improvements will take lots of work with new project goals needing to be set.
When things are like that you're better of starting a new project (like hacktarux did for example). Actually from what jab, zil and smiff said, even back then when pj64 v1.6 was released it had little things to do in its core with v1.5 and earlier. In the end you have more like a different emulator with the same name as the old one than a new version.
mrmudlord
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the code is useless, you retard. hence my pulling it from my github.
Please, you can insult me better you know.
squall_leonhart
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now lets get on to the usual discussion
Could always ask Jabo if you're wondering how he feels about the source release -
www.jabosoft.com
He was active on his blog comments as recently as 2 weeks ago. Besides, this forum (emutalk) doesn't require a login to view, so going by zilmar/jabo login dates as to when they were last here is sorta pointless......
www.jabosoft.com
He was active on his blog comments as recently as 2 weeks ago. Besides, this forum (emutalk) doesn't require a login to view, so going by zilmar/jabo login dates as to when they were last here is sorta pointless......
the_randomizer
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Source was released behind their backs?
Gee, I wonder what this is all about then:
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The source code being released sounds perfectly fine to me. I fail to see the reasoning behind StarScream's bitching.
What's worse, authors depriving programmers the chance to code and fix up emulators, or releasing the source code for what we all know to be a dead project?
Gee, I wonder what this is all about then:
Spoiler:
The source code being released sounds perfectly fine to me. I fail to see the reasoning behind StarScream's bitching.
What's worse, authors depriving programmers the chance to code and fix up emulators, or releasing the source code for what we all know to be a dead project?
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squall_leonhart
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Could someone please just put in that one line of code that gives all games perfect compatibility and 60VI/s.
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