Wow!!!

[ra5555]

Hey everyone, long time no see, I haven't being around here for a while now... Happened to surf back to see whats going on.

Just can't believe what I am finding here right now, a working GC emulator, wow.... is it for real?

After looking at some of the screen shots, I can't begin to tell you guys how I feel right now... this is too great!!


ector YOU are great man, keep it up, think I am going to upgrade my system just to use this emu! :D

just a few questions though, what is the min system requirements right now?

[zaba_3]

check "index"

[Vegetable]

People have been running Crazy Taxi at a semi-decent speed with a geforce 2 32mb, but I would at least get a 64 mb ddr, like a geforce 4 ti4200.

[Strange]

Heh - ti4200 doesn`t support DX9.0 so GFFX5600 will be good enough. And CPU about 2Ghz and better will be good too...

[Niggy G]

Heh - ti4200 doesn`t support DX9.0 so GFFX5600 will be good enough. And CPU about 2Ghz and better will be good too...

Its not yet known what specs will be needed, anything people are saying is purley an estimate.

[Eyedentity]

I got a geforce fx 5700 , and when i start mario kart ingame without wireframe i see the sky but the rest is black , is that normal?

[Vegetable]

Strange, I said AT LEAST, not reccomended.

[Strange]

>>ts not yet known what specs will be needed<< Yes i know, but i`m saying its good for now...

[Vegetable]

I wonder how well the Geforce 6800 Ultra would run with Dolphin?

[Strange]

CPU power is MORE important than videocard... Nowdays videocards i think is more than enough for gamecube emulation. And emu code optimization is most important thing than both CPU and video - in that case nowdays 3Ghz CPU with good videocard maybe will be enough for 640x480 at 30fps play...

[Eyedentity]

isnt that a little high you think? i mean , why are they making this then ? for 1 outta 1000 people to play?

[-Shadow-]

No , a 3Ghz Cpu isn't enough to play a GC game with 30Fps , I've got an athlon 2600+ @ 3200+ and still the standard 5fps-Diashow...

The emu code optimisation is absolutely the most important thing , i think...

/edit : you don't know how good the machines of japanese and european people are ! ^_°

/edit : There's a lil' guide to get a nice 3200+ AMD-processor :

1.Buy 2500+ or 2600+ for 80€
2.Make sure you got a Mainboard which unlocks the CPU automatically !
3.set multiplicator to 12 and set , if necessary set asynchronous FSB/memory-speed on
4.Make sure the Clock-speed is 2,2 Ghz
5. enjoy a 3200+ ^.^

[jareg]

What About 3.4 ghz P4 (Still not enough)(Maybe little bit faster)

[Strange]

2 H3ad5h0tter
I think this should be enough WITH GOOD CODE OPTIMIZATION, not for now...
And i have 1700+ overclocked to about 3400+ ;-) My internal clock speed is 2400Mhz... So my variant is nicest =)

[-Shadow-]

Whooo ! Habe you got a Watercooling system or do you live in siberia ? :D

[Strange]

Nope - i have only Volcano10+ but my tower is always opened =) And i live in Murmansk - its a cold northen city =)

[Vegetable]

Having your tower open doesn't cool it down that much. You should check your cpu temperature. I'll laugh my ass off when that thing fries.

[-Shadow-]

lol ? I can't use a loud cooler like the Volcano Series , because i want to be able tosleep near my PC when I download something over night ^.^ I'ts already very hard to do since i've got my radeon 9800Pro...

I'll defenitely buy a Water cooling system..........

/edit : letting the tower open CAN have an effect when you live in cold regions or when it's winter....

[Gladiac0190]

so... why not buying a watercooling system by innovatek? 250 € (270$ or so) only one time and you have a great cooled and silent system. (You can also hang your grafics card, hdd, chipset,.... into this water circle)

But I can also not sleep over night near my pc because of this moZZafoCKin' harddisk by western digital... its that load...

[Strange]

>>Having your tower open doesn't cool it down that much.<<
LoL - trust me - i know what i`m doing http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/uptosomething.gif My current temperature is 52C - not very high... With closed tower its about 60-65C - with this temperature system working very unstable. >>I'll laugh my ass off when that thing fries.<< LoL http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/happy07.gif I`m not such a lamer like you - and i know when it can fries and when not http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/clever.gif
2 H3ad5h0tter
Yeah - noise is horrible - about 45Db - but i didn`t care - hell performance - that is what i really like ;-) And also i`m sleeping well near that monster when i`m downloading something =)
2 Gladiac0190
Hmm... Water pump is also noisy.... But if that thing costs 270$ maybe not =)

[-Shadow-]

Hmmm , i've found a Watercooler for around 130€ (it will cost more if i buy some "accesoires like a gpu cooler :D) , ill buy it...

[kage]

I've heard that water cooling systems can get noisy, maybe not right off the bat, but look at your average fan and heatsink combo, most of them aren't loud right out of the package, most take time to get loud (the Volcano is an exception...I've played with one but it was too loud for my PC. My computer is always running and its near the TV...)


Sidenote:
I always keep the side of my PC off, or I too have overheating issues...

:ninja:

Its kinda hard to get off topic when the thread is "Wow!!!"

[-Shadow-]

My Radeon had got the noise out of the package ! And Water-Cooling aren't noisy . My friend got one , and the pump is noiseless , the fan is on 5 Volt... Its a good choice for people with good ears and a High end system... :D

Kage , what case have you got ? If you get overheating issues with a closed case , replace it ! I would recommend a CS-601 , it looks nice and it is cooling like a fridge (you only need some PAPST fans (around 15DBa)) ^_^

@Gladiac : I would buy a seagate HDD , it's unhearable ^_^

[Clements]

My computer is incredibly hot and noisy, and I have no problems. I just turn the RPM up to maximum on my heatsink fan since I'm not bothered by the noise, and the hotness is probably due to my 550W PSU or hard drives.

[kage]

Kage , what case have you got ? If you get overheating issues with a closed case , replace it ! I would recommend a CS-601 , it looks nice and it is cooling like a fridge (you only need some PAPST fans (around 15DBa)) ^_^


I'm actually on the lookout for a new PC case (not just for heat, but I'm getting sick of looking at mine :) )

The CS-601 isn't a bad looking case, my only problem with it is the door in the front of the drives, I'm just not the biggest fan of that, thats just me.

Part of my heat issues are coming from my stupid northbridge fan and heatsink which is trying to stall out on me all the time (I hate the cheapness of chipset fans, I need to find a good one). That and my 9700 Pro pumps out ALOT of heat.

:ninja:

[-Shadow-]

Ok , the fan on the northbridge is completely useless . Put it off , trust me , i did it with 3 mainboards , the heat doesn't change a bit .

And the front door can be put off , if you don't like it . The door is very fragile and breaks in a week anyways ^_^

/edit : Ok , and for the Graphics card , you could use the Zalman VGA silencer , a silent VGA cooler with average cooling properties !

[Vegetable]

I saw this one cooling system, it costs around 1000 aus, but they overclocked a pentium 4 3ghz to 4 ghz. Myself, I think overclocking is lame, is shortens the lifetime of your hardware, and you have to buy cooling systems with money better spent on actually UPGRADING your processor.

[jareg]

I am interested how will the Dolphin emulate with the new Geforce 6800 Ultra :drool:

[legoman666]

the same as with all vid cards: slowly

[Strange]

>>Myself, I think overclocking is lame, is shortens the lifetime of your hardware<<
And so what? - i don`t care if my CPU llife period will be 5 years Instead of 10.

[Vegetable]

I'm surprised that you can overclock at all, I mean, you don't even know how to use the bloody quote tags.

[-Shadow-]

I saw this one cooling system, it costs around 1000 aus, but they overclocked a pentium 4 3ghz to 4 ghz.

Vegetable , the cooling system you mentioned was a vaporisator , it cools down the CPU with liquid Nitrogen to around -40° ! But its very dangerous , i saw it in a video . They held a flower in a Metal bottle full of liquid nitrogen , the flower was breakable like glass , ouch...

I don't know how to put the names on the quotes (i got anonymuos quotes) , i think overclocking is easier than making quotes ^_^

[Vegetable]

Apparently it isn't dangerous at all if you put it on correctly. I mean, you don't just put liquid nitrogen directly on your cpu ¬_¬

[romsman]

I am interested how will the Dolphin emulate with the new Geforce 6800 Ultra :drool:


probably very good since it's the only videocard that is able to work with the newest unrealengine (unrealengine3)
here's a vid,if you listen closely you can hear the one who's giving the explanation say it: http://www.shinyidol.com/crap/unreal3_0002.wmv

[Strange]

2 Vegetable
I told you before what i`m not such a lame like you - so i`m khow how to make 50$ CPU works with performance 350$ CPU. And it`s too troublesome for me to use those freaking quote tags, my variant is more quicker.

[Vegetable]

Yeah, I guess it is pretty lame that I don't overclock my pc just to get a slight speed increase. I mean, who cares if I might fuck up my video card and/or my cpu! At least I got it about 3 frames faster in Halo!

[-Shadow-]

Ok , Halo hasn't a big CPU load (Simple AI and Physics) The performance of HAlo depends on the Graphics card . And I think there is a >BIG< increase from a 1700+ to a 3400+ ^_^

5 years less Lifespan for my CPU is not very bad , because I only had my last
CPU's for two years ^_^

[Strange]

Exactly H3ad5h0tter! You are totally right and fully understands me ;-)
2 Vegetable
Don`t try to advise knowing people about things in which you understand nothinghttp://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/lamer.gif http://forums.gamemag.ru/images/smiles/dn.gif

[ector]

My Radeon 9800Pro laughs itself silly at the puny graphics Zelda tries to render and still of course it doesn't run fast :)
The bottleneck is the CPU (yes, dolphin says that 50% of the performance goes to graphics, but that number mostly means graphics display list decoding and things like that, and that's done on the CPU), so no matter how fast the crazy dual-power-rail GF6800 is, it won't help at all.

[Vegetable]

Alright, so, you can make a $50 cpu as good as a $350 one, but then I guess the cooling system would make up the cost for that, and then there's the fact that your cpu could burn itself out. Is that really worth it? I think not.

[el_pajero]

I have p4 3200 geforce 5600fx 1024 ram 140gb disc

[jareg]

So the main problem is the speed not the graphics

[Strange]

2 Vegetable
My cooling system cost 15$ and its good enough for cooling my overclocked CPU and there is 0.0000000001% possibility what my Athlon can burn itself out. So its really worth it.

[Vegetable]

Ok then, do you have any proof that you have overclocked your cpu so high? And how is it that there is a 0.0000000001% chance of your cpu burning out, I mean, for fuck's sake, there's more of a chance it'll burn out without overclocking it.

[Gladiac0190]

2 Gladiac0190
Hmm... Water pump is also noisy.... But if that thing costs 270$ maybe not =)
water pump is noisy??? harharhar, no, not really... ;D
the only noise a water pump makes is the shaking between the pump and the case where it stands in. if you put the pump on some foam there is _NO_ noise, believe me...

[-Shadow-]

@Strange : you could post a a screenshot of an CPU-Speed Analysis program to proof that you overclocked it that far .
Some words to the pump : How the hell did you come to say that a pump costs 270 USD ? You don't have to use a swimming pool pump , an Eheim 1046 with 12V connectors is a cood choice . ^_^

@Vegetable : His Volcano 10 is a real Monster , with the support of the cold climate , he can get that far very easily ! I mean I have to tone down my CPU a lil' bit in the summer , so the climate has a little effect . ^.^ (3200+ to 2800+)

[Strange]

2 Gladiac0190
Ok - i believe you =)
2 Vegetable
What kind of proof you want? - i can make screenshot from sandra for example or from any other CPU information program.
And possibility of CPU burning is really very,i mean VERY low.

[Strange]

2 Vegetable
Here is damn screens - SPECIAL FOR YOU.

[-Shadow-]

Whooohoo ! Nice work ! It's a shame that i can put the Vcore only to 1,85Volt , otherwise I could do the same ^.^
Btw : Strange , what for a mainboard do you have ? (I mean the Brand , i know that it is a Nforce board) And how high is yor Vcore ?

[Strange]

My CPU power voltage is 1.8V(max is 2.0V). My mainboard is EpOX_8RDA+ - one of the best board for overclocking.

[Clements]

Beats my non o/c 3200+ @2.2GHz *sob*

:P

[cooliscool]

Ooh benchmarks. Here's some from yesterday, for the hell of it. ;)

edit: Vegetable, what the hell is your problem? Has the praise from the shots thread gotten to your head? Quit being a dickhead. You want respect, give it first. :sleeping: As for overclocking, people (like myself) do it more or less for the knowledge, messing with hardware and stuff. Besides, if you're understanding of your limits, things should be fine (I had to physically mod the CPU to achieve 1.70V from 1.5.. not much skill needed, just accuracy when working with small parts). I've been running this 1.2 Tualatin @ 1.7GHz since the day I got the thing, no problems, runs at about 32C max load with a cheap $20 copper cooler with a case fan on it, 1 intake fan, and one exhaust. The sides off do help, ALOT. My cpu gets about ~6C higher with both sides on.

[legoman666]

you think you people could resize the damn pics or something...

anyway, ive been running my 2500+ at 2229mhz 24/7 since the day i got it. no problems here. ;)

[Strange]

Same with my monsterous CPU ;-) Performance is really good...

[Clements]

My motherboard FSB defaults to 199MHz (398MHz effective or whatever you call it) giving ~2190MHz. I raised it to 202MHz in the BIOS and now my FSB reads as 405MHz giving ~2230MHz. Hmm. Here's my Sandra shot:

[shurikenman]

One moment....You can have 10.000 Ghz and it wouldnt run better...they have to optimise the code, until that hasnt happened...you either can have a geforce 8900 Ultra or a Radeon 14900XT 1024MB RAM and there wouldnt be any difference...

[Strange]

Correct. But maybe if you have 10Ghz CPU fps will be about 10 instead of 5...

[legoman666]

which still isnt good enough to play it well ;)

[Vegetable]

Alright, you've overclocked it, but you'll know who to think of when it burns out :D, and you'll know who's ass to kiss to get the money for a new one.

[joel_029]

Offtopic: Short and sweet. Vegetable, you're an idiot and only trying to start a flame war here. If you've got nothing good to say, don't say anything at all.

On original topic:
Yeah, CPU speed is the most important thing right now. But the recommended vid card when Dolphin was released was Radeon 9500 (i think) or 9600.

On Tangent:
I've got a P4 2.4c, and it's said to be pretty good with OCing and a MSI 865PE Neo2 FISR, and each time I use DOT in the bios my comp usually stalls after the post test, and all I knocked up was the multiplier to 13x (2.52Ghz) and the voltage a little bit for support. Anyone have experience using DOT on MSI boards?

[Strange]

Offtop:
2 Vegetable
Shut up you moron, not all people here gets money from their parents! Idiot :E

[Vegetable]

I don't, not so sure about you though.. It's kind of suspicious seeing as you got so defensive with that, and I didn't say anything about getting money from your PARENTS.

[Strange]

Get lost.

[Gladiac0190]

hmpf, strange vs vegetable...
someone should close this topic since this has nothin' to do with dolphin anymore...

[Strange]

Maybe you right. This is pure offtopic...

[Gorxon]

Good call, if you want to discuss further open a new thread in Techtalk.

Closed.