please help

[edge]

Hi , I have problem with ogre battle 64 .I have background but no characters why?even when they are talking ,no characters are displayed why?Rcgamer if you read this can you tell me how did you do yo have the screens you put on the topic please?if anyone know the solution of this problem please help me.there are dialog window but the characters are missing.thanks

[foogy]

get rice's gpu plugin 5.5.1.

[rcgamer]

what graphics card are you using. maybe if you show your pc specifications . someone who has the same card can help you. I'll try to recreate your problem and get back to you.

[rcgamer]

ok. well here are my settings. the only way i could come close to getting your results was with normal combiner on , so if its on turn it off. other than that i can just tell you to mess with the combiner setting for your card.

[edge]

I have a NviDia GeForce4 MX 440 rcgamer

[edge]

I have put your config but it doesn't work.No characters are displayed

[edge]

can you give me al yourconfig RSP,VIDEO all please.It works for you but not for me why?ca you check again the config video you put please?and if you know why no characters are displayed please tell me

[edge]

and one Direct X config on Anisotropic Filtering I have 2X instead of having 8X

[edge]

I use Project 64 1.5

[edge]

I have windows XP pro.

[edge]

watch here Rcgamer or anyone who can help :I have the same problem as willchu :
http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?p=191963#post191963

[rcgamer]

you need project 64 . rices video 5.5.1, you need the service pack for project 64 as well, and the default sound and rsp for pj64. and keep this to one thread. you dont need to post it in 3 differant threads. someone will help you out .

[edge]

service pack what is it?

[rcgamer]

get it here and install i, t http://pj64.emulation64.com/support/

[edge]

I have installed it and now what must I do ?

[rcgamer]

play the game.

[edge]

I have a file named : Backup created by SP1 installer.Now what must I do with that?

[Trotterwatch]

Nothing it's just a backup created by the SP1 installer... you don't need it unless you suddenly find SP1 has given you problems.

[edge]

I tried to start project 64 and play ogrebattle but there is still the same problem.

[edge]

what is service pack?how to use it to make work ogre battle 64?

[edge]

I think ogre battle needs something I don't have .What is it?config?please help me !!!
if you can play why not me?

[edge]

Direct X problem perhaps?if not help me everyone who can play.

[edge]

Rcgamer you haven't give me all of your config?

[Trotterwatch]

edge use the edit button on your posts FFS.

[edge]

Must I have the last version of DirectX to work ogre battle ?

[Trotterwatch]

Probably not, but it won't hurt.

[edge]

I manage to make characters appear but sometimes , the sound stop one second in battle.example when a cerberus is ready to attack my characters the sound freeze one second.

[edge]

I use Jabo DirectSound 1.5.Must I use another plugin sound to work ?Otherwise what is the problem this time?Please help me

[edge]

um. No, it's bth sound and game which are freezing .What is the solution please?the game keeps freezing 1 second in Battle.

[Trotterwatch]

edge, for the last time USE THE EDIT BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edge]

anyone can help me?

[edge]

I have characters appear thanks to OpenGL.I didn't put DirectX because the characters are missing.But now,I have another problem.During battle there are freezing.it freeze one second with the sound when a character is ready to attack or so.....Anyone know what is happenig?What is the solution?

[edge]

Why OpenGL but not DirectX for the characters?I would like to use DirectX because it doesn't freeze with it.

[Clements]

Use the http://emutalk.net/images/buttons/edit.gif please instead of posting three or more times in a row - it's very annoying and makes it more difficult to see what your problem is.

[-Shadow-]

Edge , go on and you'll be banned... (I mean that you're not using the http://emutalk.net/images/buttons/edit.gifbutton)

There's no solution for you problem , it's something with the combiner , only the God of rice's Plugin (Rice himself) can do something against it . I can't make an accurate diagnosis for Nvidia cards (I've got a Radeon)

It works nearly perfect on my Radeon , though .

[edge]

In video setting on Ricevideo plugin I put OpenGl instead of DirectX and characters appear Why????If you use DirectX how did you do to make characters appear?

[Nighty0]

It works nearly perfect on my Radeon , though .

on my fx5600 too........... (using pixelshader)

@edge
what your videocard and your nvidia driver version?
post more about your system........ and don't do double, triple quadruple posts..........

[edge]

NVidia GeForce4 MX 440 driver version 5.2.1.6
I have windows XP pro .DirectX 9.b and I'm using Project 64 1.5 or 1964 0.85.My problem is : go here :http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.p...1963#post191963
and watch screens of willchu.Characters are missing.For the config I use the same as Rcgamer on page 1.So anyone can give me the screens of the perfect config please? render engine etc......Thanks.

[-Shadow-]

Ahhhhh ! You can't use the Pixel-Shader Combiner with your Non-Pixel-Shader card . Use the Limited Stage 4 combiner or Semi-Pixel-Shader .

Ahhh , BTW : don't use 0.8.5 of 1964 , use 0.9.9 ;)

[edge]

can you give me all screens of your config please H3ad5h0tter ?because I don't know what to tip?or anyone who can play this game perfectly .It would be really nice and helpful for me .thanks.

[-Shadow-]

You cannot use MY config because you got a completely different Grafics card , but i'll post a screen where you have to adjust something !

I marked the 2 settings which are important...

[liteuser]

Works fine on my geforce 4 mx 440 , normal blender a little slow in cutscenes but otherwise runs fine , looks good. Im not crazy about this game. doesn't interest me.

[edge]

can you post screens of your config liteuser please (ALL)?How can I have Anisotropic filtering 16x?I have 2x instead of 16 why?GIve me all of your config please so I know what to tip.I put DirectX and limited 4stage combiner but characters are still missing.

[-Shadow-]

You can't have 16x Anisotropy because your Graphics card doesn't support it !

[willchu]

You cannot use MY config because you got a completely different Grafics card , but i'll post a screen where you have to adjust something !

I marked the 2 settings which are important...


here you go!

You need to stick with -> for NVidida TNT/.../GF2

Try different settings as well... :)

[willchu]

Sometimes the backgroud is missing... Why? I have no clue for the moment...

[edge]

willchu can you give me your config please?I would like all of your config please.And what is the version of your graphic card driver?

[willchu]

The interlude scene is now gone through quicker...

However the backgound is always the same as the traning background... (which is sucks, lol)

[edge]

willchu I always have characters missing please postall of your config.

[willchu]

willchu can you give me your config please?I would like all of your config please.And what is the version of your graphic card driver?

Trust me, the only different I have made is here in the attachment...

Combiner type: For Nvidia TNT/.../GF2

However my driver is: 6.14.10.6072 which is different than yours, but I don't think it's matter since you don't really need the most recent driver to make this game emulated...

I suggest you to try different settings for the combiner type and keep reporting in this post so as I do. If you can take some screen shots, it will be a plus :)

[willchu]

willchu I always have characters missing please postall of your config.


Please try the lastest driver then; it might be helpful in this case.

[willchu]

I will test with different settings in order to find the optimum outcome. I will let you know along the course...

[edge]

willchu can't you give me all of your config please?game default options,current game options,general options,OpenGL and texture filters.ALL!!!
Because I have put what you said me and it's the same result so Give me all of your config.Please.I'm desesperate

[Rice]

DirectX TNT combiner only works with Nvidia old drivers (older than 41.19) or the latest drivers.

[edge]

I have Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 440 driver version 5.2.1.6.Is it good?

[-Shadow-]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_56.72 <--- that's the most recent one ....

[edge]

anyone can give me all of your congig please!!!!For god sake.I need it .
game default options,current game options,general options,OpenGL and texture filters.ALL!!!
I NEED ALL!!!

[edge]

or anyone can give me your file configured?
Everyone give me a single and different config. not ALL config .It's normal it doesn't work.So give me all of your config or give me your file.Please.

[edge]

and willchu what is your config? ALL please.not only DirectX config.And what is the version of your graphic card?
I have 5.2.1.6 I don't think it fix for your config you give me right?Should I get older version or new version?Anyway please help .Give me all of your config.ALL!!!!!

[willchu]

ok this is all I have :D lol

With these I have some minor problems

1. The altus logo at the beginning of the game didn't appear
2. Quest logo has only partially shown
3. Sometimes the background doesn't appear
4. Sometimes the background appears with the previous background (for example, the training place battle background appeared as in-field battle background, etc.)

I would like to know what settings to fix these above.

Thank you

[willchu]

DirectX TNT combiner only works with Nvidia old drivers (older than 41.19) or the latest drivers.

Now I am using the combiner type as: limited 2 stage combiner since the limited 3 and 4 stage combiner will make characters disappeared...

In brief, both "limited 2 stage combiner" and "For Nvidia TNT/.../GF2" work. Other than these two combiner types, none of them works as to display character...

[-Shadow-]

The ultimate choices are the two pixel-shader combiners at last . He could buy a radeon 9600XT or 9800Pro , nice image quality ^^

[Nighty0]

@edge

caution with your double posts....... last warning.......

use at least the 56.64 driver version. this version is the best for rice plugin. you can use later versions (56.72, 60.xx)..... use for gf/tnt or limited 2stage, like liteuser or wilchu, if this don't works your problem is another than plugin configs.

[willchu]

Two settings seem to be relevant:

1. Under "General Option" -> "Skip frame" has to be disabled. Otherwise background has errors

2. Under "DirectX" -> "Depth buffer type" has to be "32-bit signed". Otherwise background appears occasionally only when your computer 'feels' like to.

ps. one simple hint: Set PJ64 priority to above normal in windows task manager -> Game runs much faster and smoother!!

That's it for now... :)

[willchu]

The ultimate choices are the two pixel-shader combiners at last . He could buy a radeon 9600XT or 9800Pro , nice image quality ^^

Oh yeah!! This game images captivate my attention... Especially, the animation of magical effects and the coloring of those sprites. HOLY MACARONI... LOVE THEM!!! The musics are great too, but a bit jeky after emulated.

[edge]

Thanks it works finally!!!!!!!!Thanks willchu , Nighty0 even if the graphic card version isn't the problem nad you too H3ad5h0tter .You accepted to give time for me.You arevery kind and niceTHANKS you all .

[willchu]

Thanks it works finally!!!!!!!!Thanks willchu , Nighty0 even if the graphic card version isn't the problem nad you too H3ad5h0tter .You accepted to give time for me.You arevery kind and niceTHANKS you all .

No Problem man! We come to forum for help, and sometimes we help others. It is just a cycle of exchanging favors :)

Please keep up posting for feather testing in this post!

I would like to ask you if you can see the beginning atlus and quest logo. In my case, atlus logo is missing and quest logo only partially shown. How about yours?

If somehow you can make them appearing correctly, please show me your setting. Thanks in advance

[willchu]

Oh one more thing, I would like to ask you if you could edit this topic's title, so that it makes clear for those who look for help on problems like us do.

I would suggest that the title becomes:
"OgreBattle64 characters missing problem solution with GeForce4 MX440"

Thanks, enjoy!! :)

[edge]

One question : must I tip on Game default config :Try to save Vram,Automatic Write back Overlapped texture and x resolution for small render to-textures?And Willchu where can I edit the title?

[willchu]

One question : must I tip on Game default config :Try to save Vram,Automatic Write back Overlapped texture and x resolution for small render to-textures?


I think you should try out those settings with any better results for your platform since I think they don't contribute to any major problem (hopefully...)

:) Try them out and report here Please! :)

[willchu]

One question : must I tip on Game default config :Try to save Vram,Automatic Write back Overlapped texture and x resolution for small render to-textures?And Willchu where can I edit the title?

Can you not edit the post? I think if you edit your first post you can well edit the title... Please try it. I am not sure though...

[edge]

I have edited the first topic.

[willchu]

I have edited the first topic.


Can you edit the title as well? Eh... probably not though right? If so, could you please contact any of the moderators to edit it for you? Thanks :)

[edge]

and Will chu when I put fullscreen for the game the game freeze a little

[willchu]

and Will chu when I put fullscreen for the game the game freeze a little

same here! I guess it's not fully emulated yet with our cards... unfortunately... But I guess the upcoming 1964 will work better with this plugin. Finger Crossed :)

I need some sleep now (3:25 am) Talk to you later man!! Enjoy the game!!!

PS...


I would like to ask you if you can see the beginning atlus and quest logo. In my case, atlus logo is missing and quest logo only partially shown. How about yours?

If somehow you can make them appearing correctly, please show me your setting. Thanks in advance

[Toubb]

Hello All, I'm a bit of a Emu Newbie and its my 1st post so please bear with me :)

I've read through this thread and tried some of the suggestions made, but can't seem to get OB64 to run properly. My backgrounds appear all green with some strips of discoloration. Was wondering if anyone with similar hardware got it to work properly. Currently Using:

ATI Radeon 9000 w Catalyst Drivers
PJ64 1.5 w SP1
Rice's newest 5.5.1 Plugin (Hats off to Rice :p )

Im using DIrectX render... limited 4 stage combiner, 32-bit depth buffer, normal blender and accurate texture mapping. I tried running it in 1964 but that didn't help. Also tried Glide64 w evoodoo wrapper but that just make my characters disappear. I'd like to post a screenie but I'm not sure how to take a screenshot from PJ64 and put it up here >_< Any help would be appreciated!! Thanks!!

[Nighty0]

Hello All, I'm a bit of a Emu Newbie and its my 1st post so please bear with me :)

I've read through this thread and tried some of the suggestions made, but can't seem to get OB64 to run properly. My backgrounds appear all green with some strips of discoloration. Was wondering if anyone with similar hardware got it to work properly. Currently Using:

ATI Radeon 9000 w Catalyst Drivers
PJ64 1.5 w SP1
Rice's newest 5.5.1 Plugin (Hats off to Rice :p )

Im using DIrectX render... limited 4 stage combiner, 32-bit depth buffer, normal blender and accurate texture mapping. I tried running it in 1964 but that didn't help. Also tried Glide64 w evoodoo wrapper but that just make my characters disappear. I'd like to post a screenie but I'm not sure how to take a screenshot from PJ64 and put it up here >_< Any help would be appreciated!! Thanks!!

I don't have PJ64 installed, but maybe RSP (off) or/and (wrong) combiner problem.

[edge]

Hi , I have another problem this time.a problem of resolution.I use Project 64 and use a resolution of 600 *800 in window mode but I cannot see all the screen and I CANNOT PUT IN FuLL SCREEN because the battle freezes sometimes.In window mode I cannot see for example : my money or the end of the map.What is the solution please?
And why on full screen the battle freezes whereas in window mode it doesn't freeze.And is there a way I can use Project 64 1.5 save to play on 1964? because on 1964 it works perferctly.(no freeze).Thanks

[Nighty0]

And is there a way I can use Project 64 1.5 save to play on 1964? because on 1964 it works perferctly.(no freeze).Thanks
1964 can load PJ64 save states.

[-Shadow-]

Not Really , the states are completely f****d up , I used the same RSP with each emu , but the pj64 states were completely incompatible with 1964 , with each game (some did load , but they'd crash in 5 secs) .

[edge]

how to load Pj 64 save state with 1964?Please I would like to use 1964.

[willchu]

how to load Pj 64 save state with 1964?Please I would like to use 1964.


What you can do is start a new game and save the game at the strategy screen. Now you can find a save data in the 1964 save folder. Copy the name of this save data, go to PJ64 save data folder and change the name of the save data inside with the one you just copied from 1964. Move this changed name save data to the 1964 save folder. That's it!

***Warning: Could anyone please tell me if you could see the atlus and quest logo at the beginning of the game (i.e. it starts with N64 logo than "Atlus logo", and lastly "Quest logo" --> I missed the last two logos) Please report in! Thanks :)************************************** **************************************** **************************************

[-Shadow-]

I think he meant the internal save-state options of the emus , it's very easy to find out , sry , my typing fingers are aching.... :D

[Toubb]

I don't have PJ64 installed, but maybe RSP (off) or/and (wrong) combiner problem.

I went and tried all of the combiner settings, but no luck :( I use the unofficial RSP that Clements posted in one of the threads

edit: Willchu I see the N64 Logo and the Atlus Logo, but for the quest logo i can only see 3 Qs, then the screen turns white. However, I can't get the battle backgrounds to show up.

I took a screenshot of a battle scene and put it in the attachment
http://www.emutalk.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=14698&stc=1

[edge]

but I'm using 1964 0.85 not 099 because it doesn't work with it.Please help

[Nighty0]

but I'm using 1964 0.85 not 099 because it doesn't work with it.Please help

why you don't use 0.99? only use 0.85 if you have a K6II computer.

@wilchu

QQQ logo disapears only if i enable any filter (lq2x, anisotropy, aa)
but the game is normal.

[Powerlord]

why you don't use 0.99? only use 0.85 if you have a K6II computer.

From the A question for Rice - could you fix Ogre Battle backgrounds? (http://www.emutalk.net/showthread.php?t=19716) thread:

Sure it can be fixed.

It is actually very nice to know that 1964.099 has JPEG decoding problem with this game, thanks, Gonetz, both 1964 0.99 and the video plugin need to be fixed for this game.

Emphasis added by me.

[willchu]

I went and tried all of the combiner settings, but no luck :( I use the unofficial RSP that Clements posted in one of the threads

edit: Willchu I see the N64 Logo and the Atlus Logo, but for the quest logo i can only see 3 Qs, then the screen turns white. However, I can't get the battle backgrounds to show up.

I took a screenshot of a battle scene and put it in the attachment
http://www.emutalk.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=14698&stc=1

This bad display happens to me on 1964 v0.99 only (JPEG compressor defect... cannot be fixed for now). On the other hand, both PJ64 and 1964 v0.85 don't have background display problem on my platform. I am using Geforce4 MX440 which is different from your video card, and I wonder if it has to do with this different... What I will do if I were you, I will uninstall everything and reinstall in steps. I prefer using PJ64 for now -> Install PJ64 1.5, SP1 for PJ64 1.5, copy both mp..c71.dll files from 1964 v0.99 folder to PJ64 installed folder, copy Rice 5.5.1 (two files) to the plugin folder of PJ64, and correct all the settings as previous stated (try different settings objected to hardware dicrepancy between us --> Especially Pay attention at the DirectX settings tab). Try to run the game! (Most importantly... Good luck) :)

[Nighty0]

Emphasis added by me.

A moment of disattention, sorry....... I'm playing CS so much hehe... :)

[willchu]

why you don't use 0.99? only use 0.85 if you have a K6II computer.

@wilchu

QQQ logo disapears only if i enable any filter (lq2x, anisotropy, aa)
but the game is normal.


Thanks for noticing :) could you please show me where is aa? I can only find anisotropy and lq2x. Thanks

[willchu]

A moment of disattention, sorry....... I'm playing CS so much hehe... :)


CS = Counter Strike on PC? Good! Why don't you try America's Army? It's freaking good!! Try it!!!

[willchu]

I think he meant the internal save-state options of the emus , it's very easy to find out , sry , my typing fingers are aching.... :D

Apply the same principle (on strategy screen save), then you don't really need internal save state option for transfering save data since cross internal save state between emulators is not reliable at all... :)

[Toubb]

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling and the backgrounds magically popped up :) I think the problem may be that I can't use the Unofficial RSP with Pj64 using Rice 5.5.1 . Anyhow, i'm off to enjoy the game, Thanks a ton guys!!

[willchu]

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling and the backgrounds magically popped up :) I think the problem may be that I can't use the Unofficial RSP with Pj64 using Rice 5.5.1 . Anyhow, i'm off to enjoy the game, Thanks a ton guys!!


Nice! Enjoy!!

[Nighty0]

OFFTOPIC


CS = Counter Strike on PC? Good! Why don't you try America's Army? It's freaking good!! Try it!!!

i tried but have only a few AA servers here in brazil (i only know one)....... CS is a must in all lanhouses and ISPs...... MOH and COD too...

[willchu]

OFFTOPIC



i tried but have only a few AA servers here in brazil (i only know one)....... CS is a must in all lanhouses and ISPs...... MOH and COD too...

If I have to put them in order, I would say: AA, COD, MOH, CS... :)

I have asked you about the filter (aa) you've mentioned which disable it could make atlus and quest logo appear. Where can I find it dude? :)

[edge]

But I have another problem this time.a problem of resolution.I use Project 64 and use a resolution of 600 *800 in window mode but I cannot see all the screen and I CANNOT PUT IN FuLL SCREEN because the battle freezes sometimes.In window mode I cannot see for example : my money or the end of the map.What is the solution please?
And why on full screen the battle freezes whereas in window mode it doesn't freeze.And is there a way I can use Project 64 1.5 save to play on 1964? because on 1964 0.99 there are freezing whereas on 1964 0.85 there aren't

[willchu]

But I have another problem this time.a problem of resolution.I use Project 64 and use a resolution of 600 *800 in window mode but I cannot see all the screen and I CANNOT PUT IN FuLL SCREEN because the battle freezes sometimes.In window mode I cannot see for example : my money or the end of the map.What is the solution please?
And why on full screen the battle freezes whereas in window mode it doesn't freeze.And is there a way I can use Project 64 1.5 save to play on 1964? because on 1964 0.99 there are freezing whereas on 1964 0.85 there aren't

Quoted previously...


What you can do is start a new game and save the game at the strategy screen. Now you can find a save data in the 1964 save folder. Copy the name of this save data, go to PJ64 save data folder and change the name of the save data inside with the one you just copied from 1964. Move this changed name save data to the 1964 save folder. That's it!

[edge]

which save?save state or save on map?Des it work on 1964 0.85.And "go to PJ64 save data folder and change the name of the save data",but which save data?An what is "strategy screen"?

[edge]

Why is my window screen partial on Project 64 and 1964 resolution : 800 *600.I can't see all the screen? whY?Please help me!!How to config Pj 64 to have all the screen?

[edge]

pkease help

[rcgamer]

dont use that resolution , use a smaller one. you probably have your deskto0p resolution set at 800,600 also. so either change your desktop res higher or make your window res lower for the emulator.

[edge]

but the window will not take all my screen!And how to transfer y Pj 64 saves to 1964 0.85 ?

[Nighty0]

I have asked you about the filter (aa) you've mentioned which disable it could make atlus and quest logo appear. Where can I find it dude? :)

My fault: atlus and qqq logo don't disapears because of filters......... they disappear if you force "Normal Blender" On, put to off or to default and you get the logos........... sorry my fault........
forcing Normal Blender on to get better text (in this game), but this problably affect other parts, one of them is the logos........

OFFTOPIC
My multiplayer games in order: CS1.6, COD, Warcraft3, MOH, CS:CZ, CS1.5, NWN, searching for a good MMORPG to play online (other than Ultima)

[willchu]

My fault: atlus and qqq logo don't disapears because of filters......... they disappear if you force "Normal Blender" On, put to off or to default and you get the logos........... sorry my fault........
forcing Normal Blender on to get better text (in this game), but this problably affect other parts, one of them is the logos........

OFFTOPIC
My multiplayer games in order: CS1.6, COD, Warcraft3, MOH, CS:CZ, CS1.5, NWN, searching for a good MMORPG to play online (other than Ultima)


This might be a bit late to say thanks :D lol... I was busy throughout the week...

MMORPG... I guess no... monthly fee... no way... but I would like to try FFXI online, it looks cool.

I don't know if you have heard of Total War series of games (Shogun, Medieval, the upcoming Rome). They are my first choice in all games, and probably not for most people. The online battle is the best strategy gaming so far. If you haven't tried them yet, you really should give it a try!! it is a must!!!

[n00by duddy]

big thanks to willchu for posting his OB64 config :)