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WhiteX

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Aparently not, even men of belief get dished out by him, it seems that he talks tolerance but he alone holds the truth, we´re doomed.:evil:
 

NES_player4LIFE

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it takes faith to believe in the LORD

i would think that you guys would rather take the risk to believe
then the risk to not believe and spend for ever in HELL
ONE DAY ALL WILL BOW DOWN AND CONFESS THAT THE LORD GOD IS GOD
you can do it now or in HELL
BUT YOU WILL DO IT!
please do it now and spare yourself's
 
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Fabricio_EX

Fabricio_EX

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Faith, you say? My life became such a disgrace after I started going to the church. My father lost his job and a few years later got a stomach cancer, all of a sudden, my brother had a convulsion because of a strange problem on his brain and we had no money to buy the medicine he needed for 4 years; not to mention a lot of other problems that appeared after that. Now that we got out of that place, our life is starting to be better. Can you answer me what kind of god is that?

Only if he doens't like me, or my family, huh?
 
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Doomulation

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NES_player4LIFE said:
ONE DAY ALL WILL BOW DOWN AND CONFESS THAT THE LORD GOD IS GOD
you can do it now or in HELL
BUT YOU WILL DO IT!
please do it now and spare yourself's
Btw, are you sure? You sound like a hypocrite. Spare us with your hypocrisy.
Some people will never believe in such things. And I shall forever be one of them.
 

ScottJC

At your service, dood!
I'm with doomulation, besides if you had been bothering to read this thread NES_Player4LIFE you'll see me, doom and others have made a very good argument against gods... if the only thing your side of the argument can come up with is "YOU GOTTA HAVE FAITH" then go back home and delude yourself all you like.

I suppose i've got to have faith that my dinner will taste awesome too now eh? You've got to have faith to believe in something? BULLSHIT. You've got to have proof... now look at how many religions there are, can you honestly say you picked the right one?

Hell/Underworld is just a thing humans invented to scare people... long before christianity people believed in Cerberus the three headed dog and Hades, why not now? Can you explain that? Whats the difference between all the mythic religions and the every day ones? I'd say none.

oh ya, trust me there was a time where christians thought it was perfectly acceptable to burn people for being witches (it was the style at the time)... Christians can go to hell because from my point of view i'd rather believe in what is true than what is completely made up... i'm not naive enough to believe it like some people in this thread are.

Ever notice how when people argue over religion the religious side of the debate cannot even form a half decent argument? I am an atheist and trust me I have very strong views against religion in general... I pity people.
 

WhiteX

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I have my personal belief, i do not go to church nor i believe its ministers, i believe in God, this belief comforts me in time of need and it is all i need from Him, now imposing my religion over others belief like Nes_player and Alchemist that is the same thought of some Al Qaeda Bombman.
 

J-Nic

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ScottJC said:
the only thing your side of the argument can come up with is "YOU GOTTA HAVE FAITH"


lol that was the first thing I thought when I came in into this thread


its funny that there's so much to back up evolution, but there's almost next to nothing that backs up religon. But yet they always have to insult "non-believers" or try to convert them. (I don't know how many times I've had someone knock on my door and have me to join ther religon, or join there church or something like that...) everyones allowed to express their belief's, but you also have to tolarate them. religious people just don't seem to get that most people these days believe in reality, not fantisy.
 
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Alchemist

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Congratulations, you have all won an argument against one seventeen year-old. If this brings you satisfaction, fine; I was happy to be insulted, derided , and to disgust you because it affirms that which I believe in the first place. You hate me because you hated Christ first, and I am humbled to be known by his name as a Christian. Though you may be older and more knowledgable than myself, this can only strengthen my resolve to hold my beliefs intact and learn how to better understand your views. You have not dissuaded me, neither can you, neither will you; For him whom I serve cannot be triumphed over by anything, let alone mere men.

I do not apologize for offending anyone, as you have offended me in turn. I do not, however, wish you ill will. I pray that you will someday realize your state as a fundamentally corrupted creation that cannot be fulfilled by anything you seek to satisfy yourselves with.

I do not claim to be perfect, nor can I be. I do not claim to be better than anyone who has read this; we are all mere men, driven by sinful desires, and we can do nothing right outside of Christ.

This is my confession, that Jesus Christ is Lord.
 

J-Nic

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Alchemist said:
You hate me because you hated Christ first, and I am humbled to be known by his name as a Christian. Though you may be older and more knowledgable than myself, this can only strengthen my resolve to hold my beliefs intact and learn how to better understand your views. You have not dissuaded me, neither can you, neither will you; For him whom I serve cannot be triumphed over by anything, let alone mere men.

I do not apologize for offending anyone, as you have offended me in turn. I do not, however, wish you ill will. I pray that you will someday realize your state as a fundamentally corrupted creation that cannot be fulfilled by anything you seek to satisfy yourselves with.


I don't hate jesus christ, (and I don't even know you...) his excistance is just questionable... very questionable. if he does exist, then I shall believe and respect him. but so far, there has been no Proof of his exsistance. without proof then it is extremily hard for me to believe in religon, especially when there is so much proof of evolution. You're probably sitting there going "you shouldn't question the exsistance of our lord" etc etc, but that's just not how the world works. If I told you I could levitate, but didn't give you any proof, you wouldn't believe me right?

and in your second paragraph you told us you pray on our corrupted creation in hope that we will chose the right path (not your exact words) that's a perfect example of religous people assuming they are better than everyone, and everyone should follow there beliefs. people do have the right to make their own choices, you know. especially if theres so much to back it up
 
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Doomulation

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Alchemist said:
Congratulations, you have all won an argument against one seventeen year-old. If this brings you satisfaction, fine; I was happy to be insulted, derided , and to disgust you because it affirms that which I believe in the first place. You hate me because you hated Christ first, and I am humbled to be known by his name as a Christian. Though you may be older and more knowledgable than myself, this can only strengthen my resolve to hold my beliefs intact and learn how to better understand your views. You have not dissuaded me, neither can you, neither will you; For him whom I serve cannot be triumphed over by anything, let alone mere men.

I do not apologize for offending anyone, as you have offended me in turn. I do not, however, wish you ill will. I pray that you will someday realize your state as a fundamentally corrupted creation that cannot be fulfilled by anything you seek to satisfy yourselves with.

I do not claim to be perfect, nor can I be. I do not claim to be better than anyone who has read this; we are all mere men, driven by sinful desires, and we can do nothing right outside of Christ.

This is my confession, that Jesus Christ is Lord.
We are not trying to disuade you. We are not insulting you. But you are forcing your beliefs upon us. You must accept that in the world, some believe in what you believe and some do not.
 

ScottJC

At your service, dood!
Alchemist said:
Congratulations, you have all won an argument against one seventeen year-old. If this brings you satisfaction, fine;
Yeah because it is all about you isn't it? the fact that you're 17 proves that it is most likely your upbringing that is the reason you are christian and not out of choice... this is how religions thrive, when you have kids you will force them to believe it as well and so the cycle of BS continues.
Alchemist said:
For him whom I serve cannot be triumphed over by anything, let alone mere men.
Yeah, so basically you're saying you're a slave to a mythical creature... I'm a slave to cerberus, the three headed dog!
Alchemist said:
You hate me because you hated Christ first
I am incapable of hating something which does not exist, What I hate is the idea of having to worship anyone.
Alchemist said:
I do not apologize for offending anyone, as you have offended me in turn.
You haven't offended anyone, merely offended yourself because you can't be reasoned with like most christians... you refuse to accept anything that isn't your belief because of a lousy Book.
Alchemist said:
we are all mere men, driven by sinful desires, and we can do nothing right outside of Christ.
Bullshit, we are all animals driven to survive at all costs... it has nothing to do with desire... we are more intelligent than a Pig and can do more but we are still animals and we have basic instincts to have children and build our numbers... we can act independantly... of course to a christian god does everything doesn't he?
Alchemist said:
This is my confession, that Jesus Christ is Lord.
This is my confession, that I am a level 1000 knight with a million hitpoints.

This is how sure I am there is no christian god: SMITE ME OH LORD... SMITE ME...!!! c'mon ya chicken i'm not afraid of you and your incredibly violent book. After all, I'm the juggernaut Bitch.
 
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J-Nic

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ScottJC said:
This is my confession, that I am a level 1000 knight with a million hitpoints.

lol

anyway, can't we just accept the fact that some people believe in fairy tales, and some people believe in reality?
 

WhiteX

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Faith is not a fairy tale, religion is; you must tell them apart.

The belief in a higher power is all but beneficial, it kept many ppl in wrong ways (booze, drugs, wife abuse and so on...) straightened out, faith is the power of positive thinking and the human ability to do whatever the hell we want, if God is to be the icon of this belief, he may nt exist but he is at least useful.

i believe, for personal purposes, the existance of "coincidences" so weird that may be thought out by someone else, if you don´t believe it, well there´s nothing i can or want to do about it, i´ll not force myself upon you guys.

My confession is...Believe yourself and the World is yours, you´re not forsaken until you forsake yourself.

Nah, in fact my confession is Dr. Light is our maker and to him we may pray.
 

smcd

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I think faith is important because without something to believe in, our life is basically worthless; a mere speck in the universe. Unfortunately that doesn't seem very appealing and there's bound to be more to life than what we can see and feel. Freedom to choose is a wonderful thing, so lets let people who want to choose to believe in God do so, and those that choose not to do so as well. Religion isn't really the cause of problems, the people behind it that become fanatics are.
 

NES_player4LIFE

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Alchemist said:
Congratulations, you have all won an argument against one seventeen year-old. If this brings you satisfaction, fine; I was happy to be insulted, derided , and to disgust you because it affirms that which I believe in the first place. You hate me because you hated Christ first, and I am humbled to be known by his name as a Christian. Though you may be older and more knowledgable than myself, this can only strengthen my resolve to hold my beliefs intact and learn how to better understand your views. You have not dissuaded me, neither can you, neither will you; For him whom I serve cannot be triumphed over by anything, let alone mere men.

I do not apologize for offending anyone, as you have offended me in turn. I do not, however, wish you ill will. I pray that you will someday realize your state as a fundamentally corrupted creation that cannot be fulfilled by anything you seek to satisfy yourselves with.

I do not claim to be perfect, nor can I be. I do not claim to be better than anyone who has read this; we are all mere men, driven by sinful desires, and we can do nothing right outside of Christ.

This is my confession, that Jesus Christ is Lord.

i'm with you 100% my brother in the faith

And I do not apologize for offending anyone.

And I pray that you will someday realize your state as a fundamentally corrupted creation that cannot be fulfilled by anything you seek to satisfy yourselves with.

Jesus Is My Lord My Saviour And My GOD
He Is The Only GOD And All Will Bow Before Him
And No One Will Take His place
 

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