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Xade

Xade

Irrelevant Insight
If you're talking in terms of who has kings and queens, then you'd say England lives under some dictorial, autocratic leadership. Which is wrong. It's suprising you don't mention us, actually, what with in essence being practically the world's oldest democracy and infact giving you half of what you US folk base your deocracy on.

I suppose the magna carta doesn't come into this or anything, either, right?

But, y'know... carry on...

(As for the jokers downloading music excessively, I think I've already been pretty damned explicit on where I stand on the situation. And REAL CDs and vinyl is THE way people - christ I'm 17 and I've got 120 albums).
 
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rcgamer

rcgamer

the old guy
saying france is the oldest democracy is ridiculous. napolean came to power after the revolutionary war. marquis de lafayette (who was related to the then king by marriage), served with washington during the revolution,he was one of the first frenchman to bring the idea back to france.
 
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2fast4u

2fast4u

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hrm .. im still wondering what the big deal is which country was democratic first. you guys are just comparing dick sizes, you know who you are :p
 
Xade

Xade

Irrelevant Insight
rcgamer said:
saying france is the oldest democracy is ridiculous. napolean came to power after the revolutionary war. marquis de lafayette (who was related to the then king by marriage), served with washington during the revolution,he was one of the first frenchman to bring the idea back to france.
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Oh and I suppose the USA is then? Y'know, you've seen my other post there...

And 2fast, personally I'm just defending the honour of... queen... and country! Yeargh!

Oh, and, uh, yeah, those p2p guys, huh...
 
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AlphaWolf

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
Xade said:
Oh and I suppose the USA is then? Y'know, you've seen my other post there...
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It is (well, the moern definition of democracy at least,) England was a "constitutional monarchy" until the 19th century :p (remember that constitution != democracy, rather it's a framework for a system of government)

And yes, damn those RIAA bastards :D
 
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Geoz

Geoz

De Master
Don’t you just love the way stuff always turns into something completely different on EmuTalk?

Lol makes me glad to be back.

Democracy in Greece. Lol what a joke. We had 17N roaming our streets like a year ago, knee caping anyone they wanted to, those assholes should burn in hell. (Btw I never said I was Athenian.) And our retarded President is telling people to vote no to unite Cyprus. And don’t get me started about the Orthodox Church… [As you guessed I am not very nationalist, religious or patriotic] - Which I admit is strange from someone coming from the Balkans eh?

Yeah the Magna Carta. Whether you like it or not the French were the first to introduce a set of guide lines stating individual’s rights. Not America, i dont care how you spin it.
 
Geoz

Geoz

De Master
2fast4u said:
if you think emutalk is bad, try nvnews ;)
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Its the way EmuT does it... With style, (most of the time), i mean on other forums this would end up probably about comparing dick sizes or something because some immature 12 years old would having misinterpreted your prevous post and taken it to the extend as "m1nes biga den urs"
 
Xade

Xade

Irrelevant Insight
Just because I'm cruising with 14" of raw power...

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... *cough* :happy:

I see your point though, certainly. I've been reasonably impressed since I got back into this after like a ten month hiatus. Although some of the figures around here are marginally up their own asses. But, y'know, I've just claimed a 14 inch manhood, so...
 
AlphaWolf

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
Geoz said:
Democracy in Greece. Lol what a joke. We had 17N roaming our streets like a year ago, knee caping anyone they wanted to, those assholes should burn in hell. (Btw I never said I was Athenian.) And our retarded President is telling people to vote no to unite Cyprus. And don’t get me started about the Orthodox Church… [As you guessed I am not very nationalist, religious or patriotic] - Which I admit is strange from someone coming from the Balkans eh?

Yeah the Magna Carta. Whether you like it or not the French were the first to introduce a set of guide lines stating individual’s rights. Not America, i dont care how you spin it.
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Democracy itself started in ancient greece, think back to the golden age of philosophy, B.C. times around that of socrates and plato, not modern greece. Also, the magna carta wasn't french, it was british, and it didn't establish a democracy at all. All it did was place a few restrictions on what the monarchy was allowed to do on subjects like taxes, administration of justice, etc. Trust me, france did not start democracy, not even close, no matter how much you spin it :)

But, going back on topic, check this out: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/22/1855215&mode=thread&tid=99
 
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Gorxon

Gorxon

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Well, I guess this thread was a bad idea, but just to add one final point:

CD's here cost $28 in a normal CD store. Of course you can get it cheaper, but not by that much and often it means importing. If that's not overpricing I dunno what. But, all of you who had that mass-copying argument of course have a point (and cds dont cost so much in the US).
I just dont like to spend so much money on a CD i might not like (hence I check them out first). Besides, owning the CD is much nicer than just having some mp3's lying around. Dunno if this has much to do with the RIAA victims though..

Anyways, by all means, I didn't mean to interrupt your history discussion so please ignore this... :p
 
AlphaWolf

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
Relatively speaking, CDs do cost a bit much here in the US. I compare DVDs to CDs, CDs usually cost more and contain far less content. Hell, the Matrix Revolutions was available for $12.50 when it first came out, and the soundtrack was $15. How stupid is that?! The DVD already includes all of those audios to begin with in the first place! Thats an oligopoly for you.
 
smegforbrain

smegforbrain

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Actually, the USA is the oldest Republic iirc. With a republic being a form of democracy...

Anyways, while prices vary greatly from place to place, it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of cd's are still atleast $15-18.

Even iTunes has had to price some cd's over $9.99 now to $13.99 due to various factors (such as the music industry trying to still pinch more money out of us).

And yes, DVD prices, on average, are lower than cd prices. That is rather sickening. :)
 
AlphaWolf

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
smegforbrain said:
Actually, the USA is the oldest Republic iirc. With a republic being a form of democracy...
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Kinda sorta...republic implies power to the majority, whereas democracy implies a balance of power between all classes (e.g, say the poor outnumber the rich, but neither has the ability to overpower the other; they both have an equal voice.) The USA has traits of both, but its mostly a democracy because of the representative system.
 
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2fast4u

2fast4u

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Gorxon said:
CD's here cost $28 in a normal CD store. Of course you can get it cheaper, but not by that much and often it means importing. If that's not overpricing I dunno what. But, all of you who had that mass-copying argument of course have a point (and cds dont cost so much in the US).
I just dont like to spend so much money on a CD i might not like (hence I check them out first). Besides, owning the CD is much nicer than just having some mp3's lying around. Dunno if this has much to do with the RIAA victims though..
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a new cd costs about 15 euros here, maybe 20 if you are going with a digipack. there is very few ones id buy without having "sampled" it first either cuz its just too much money. and yeah, a real cd is much nicer than a few mp3s or a burned cd-r.
 
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