Nintendo Wii sells like zomg
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General Plot
Britchie Crazy
Couple that with the fact that most people are holding out for the titles that have made the PS3 sell so well (MGS4, FF13, etc...), I suspect that once the most anticipated games start hitting the market, the impact will show in the sales.
t0rek
Wilson's Friend
General Plot said:
That philosophy justifies the wiimote, swinging a sword with your hand movement is very practical, a complex game with new accommodated controls.
The learning curve for the wiimote is very little. People of all ages get used to it easily, just think the first time you moved Mario in Super Mario 64, it feeled a little odd but you get used to it. Or the following example, even when is not a console example: To play the original Doom you didn't needed a mouse to point at your enemies, and the you control the character sight with the mouse. Quite simply
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Britchie Crazy
Wasn't bashing, just giving my thoughts on why the sales of games per console might also be low.WhiteX said:
Call me old fashioned (maybe it's my age) but that idea of control doesn't appeal to me as much as the idea of moving around in a 3D environment with an analog stick did. And I still prefer it that way. I think it's the defacto of gaming for today's consoles.t0rek said:
t0rek
Wilson's Friend
Well the wiimote still uses an analog stick with the nunchuk add-on. As you said the analog stick has been the standard for consoles in a very long time, but not because of that it means is superior or inferior, or that the wii approach is inadequate. Even when you are not going to buy the Wii, you should at least test how it feels using the wiimote, it's not like trying something gross you know
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Britchie Crazy
In the time of the 16 bit (and part of the 32 bit era) when all we haad were digital gamepads, it was obvious as 3D was growing that we needed something more. Enter the analog stick. It made up for what the digital pad lacked. This made the analog stick necessary. However, graphics have gotten better since then, but the overall design of games really hasn't changed much (you get more detail, but it's still walking around in a 3D environment). This means something like the Wiimote wasn't really necessary, as the same play can be done on analog. That's the difference. There really isn't any need for it, it's just a new concept that's attempting to give the feeling of VR, which from what I can tell, still doesn't quite give that experience.
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t0rek
Wilson's Friend
AFAIK Nintendo hasn't marketed the Wii as virtual reality. The fact that games are still 3D doesn't mean that the wiimote is unnecesary, is just a different approach of gameplay (that could never be done with a analog stick). In other words a different way to play games and it has been proved that is not difficult to learn to use it
ScottJC
At your service, dood!
Are you even listening to us General Plot? The Wii does have an analog stick, it's used in combination with the pointer technology. Uses in games for this has a lot of potential, imagine command and conquer on the thing - Using the pointer like a mouse, almost like a PC rts - and shoot em ups... you walk around with the analog stick and shoot at people with the wiiremote.
Make no mistake, the analog stick is a necessary thing for this setup to work its not all done with the wii remote.
Make no mistake, the analog stick is a necessary thing for this setup to work its not all done with the wii remote.
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Britchie Crazy
I never said it wasn't there. My interpretation is that the lack of BUTTONS and lack of right analog stick the Wiimote has is because that's where the movement comes in. I simply used analog as a comparison for a need versus movement which isn't a need.ScottJC said:
Doomulation
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No deal!
I will import whatever anyone says. I just need a store that sells the console. I know there is a lot of demand - but I'll wait. I will not get it locally, however.
Oh and, no, General Plot isn't listening to us. You should know that by now.
ScottJC
At your service, dood!
There's more buttons than you think there is, on the Nunchuck (Left) Theres the analog stick and 2 trigger buttons, on the Wiiremote (Right) There is eight buttons if you include the dpad (which is like C controls on the n64) inc one on the back of the remote itself.
So, 10 buttons... a pointer at the screen and an analog stick isn't enough to play games, plus the motion detection. eh? Get the facts please. There's only about 14 buttons on the 360 pad and it doesn't have the motion sensing ability.
You do NOT NEED a right analog stick with the wii motes pointer functionality. I mean come on, what would you rather do, use the right analog stick on your xbox360 to move your gun up and shoot or just simply point at the screen where your enemy is and hit Z.
So, 10 buttons... a pointer at the screen and an analog stick isn't enough to play games, plus the motion detection. eh? Get the facts please. There's only about 14 buttons on the 360 pad and it doesn't have the motion sensing ability.
You do NOT NEED a right analog stick with the wii motes pointer functionality. I mean come on, what would you rather do, use the right analog stick on your xbox360 to move your gun up and shoot or just simply point at the screen where your enemy is and hit Z.
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The 2nd analog stick isn't needed, since the wii remote can be used to look around. The ps2 has 10 buttons that are used for the games when u count L3 and R3. 14 if u count the D-Pad. The Wii has 7 buttons 11 buttons if u count the D-pad and can control as good as any game I have played so far. The point I'm making is that just because it doesn't have a lot of unneeded buttons doesn't mean its inferior. If anything, it makes the game more fun.
I came from the time of the Atari days, but you have to understand that things change. Remember back in the day, consoles had joysticks. After a few years, consoles went to the directional pad. Then after that controllers had analog. What's wrong with Nintendo taking the next step in using motion sensors that actually work. I'm pretty sure everybody here remembers all the failed attempts such as the Power Glove and the Sega Activator which were complete failures. The concept was great, but they couldnt get it right. The point i'm making is that when time changes so must technology. There really isn't anything you can do about it except not buying the product. Sure it could fail, but the way it's looking so far, its gonna be great.
General Plot said:
I came from the time of the Atari days, but you have to understand that things change. Remember back in the day, consoles had joysticks. After a few years, consoles went to the directional pad. Then after that controllers had analog. What's wrong with Nintendo taking the next step in using motion sensors that actually work. I'm pretty sure everybody here remembers all the failed attempts such as the Power Glove and the Sega Activator which were complete failures. The concept was great, but they couldnt get it right. The point i'm making is that when time changes so must technology. There really isn't anything you can do about it except not buying the product. Sure it could fail, but the way it's looking so far, its gonna be great.
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Britchie Crazy
Buddy, I'm 30, OK? I had a game system that ran on a 9 Volt battery, I used to pwn in Yars Revenge, etc... This isn't anything I'm new to. I know what I like and what appeals to me, and no amount of pushing on ANYONE'S part is going to change my mind.revl8er said:
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Yes, because you're a Sony fanboy and love everything they do. And you would never, ever consider another system and therefore everything on that system HAS to be good. And the Rev controller is too different, it's like an Analog stick replacing the D-pad, so it HAS to be bad, even though you haven't tried it!
rcgamer
the old guy
Buddy, I'm 30, OK? I had a game system that ran on a 9 Volt battery, I used to pwn in Yars Revenge, etc... This isn't anything I'm new to. I know what I like and what appeals to me, and no amount of pushing on ANYONE'S part is going to change my mind.
LOL, you're 30 and you say pwn. Sorry, just found it humorous.
ScottJC
At your service, dood!
Yeah, who you trying to convince, us or yourself? You won't change our minds either so your comments are futile and you are doing nothing but troll here. It's called the opinion, other people besides you are allowed to have one, yours isn't absolute and nor is mine... so whats the point in posting here for you since you obviously have no interest in this subject?Buddy, I'm 30, OK? I had a game system that ran on a 9 Volt battery, I used to pwn in Yars Revenge, etc... This isn't anything I'm new to. I know what I like and what appeals to me, and no amount of pushing on ANYONE'S part is going to change my mind.
Guess what, we don't care if you don't like the wiimote, we never did, stop fooling yourself into thinking any of us give a crap about what you do, do what you like; You're getting these responces because most of the people who are posting here like this technology - just as you'd respond in kind if someone said something you don't like in a sony thread. Just to level the playing field, I know you don't give a shit about what I do either; That's pretty much a fact of life, unless you're famous nobody cares.
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Frankly, I see a fundamental flaw in the Wiimote when it comes to FPS. Moving the controller doesn't move the view, only the reticle. In order to change the view, you have to move the reticle to the edge of the screen and "drag" the view with it (think Goldeneye's R button aiming mode). There's nothing inherently wrong with the tech; its design simply necessitates this behavior. It's perfect for on-rails shooters (Rez sequel please, kthx) but in traditional FPS the analog stick is superior, and the mouse even more so.
Miretank
Lurking
As much as you do with Nintendo. I BET if Wii would read DVD and PS3 not, you'd bash PS3 because of that.Doomulation said:
It's clearer an ego war. Pretty normal IMO.
Not even defending generalplot, just saying what I see.
To ScottJC: You're a self-declared Wii fanboy. You'll defend your shore as much as Plot defend theirs. So stop to try showing maturity when don't even reply friendly PMs for discussion.