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gokuss4

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Talas said:
Sorry guys, but I dont agree at all with the majority of you. If you liked the persons looks and you wanted to kiss the person (like the guy on the photo) then its your own fault if afterwards you see that the person is actually a guy. Sorry, but resorting to any sort of violence again her/him is absolutely wrong. It just shows us that alot of people still have homophobia.

Hell, even a friend of mine once started kissing a... well not important ;).... though all his pals told him that he/she looked like a guy. And what happenend? He put his hand into her/his trousers and voila! had something in his hand he never wanted to hold. Hey guys! its his own fault. Of course I too would feel deceived but on the other hand the places where I go arent normally filled with transsexuals. And even if they were, and I was deceived, I dont think I would want to hit that guy or something.

Puh! Good thing that I love mediterranean beauties, its hard for a guy to look like one of those? ;-)
Some people that replied in this thread might not be homophobic... but I'm sure they, like me, or anyone else in this damn forum, hates to be deceived, especially like that. Homophobes are people that are afraid to even be around homosexuals and don't want anything to do with them. Men that are kissing a woman and then find out they were kissing a man instead and then feel deceived and pissed is called being straight.
 

vampireuk

Mr. Super Clever
My brother is gay, but he doesnt run around pretending to be a woman. Anybody who decieves a person like that deserves a good kicking.
 

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
Talas said:
Sorry guys, but I dont agree at all with the majority of you. If you liked the persons looks and you wanted to kiss the person (like the guy on the photo) then its your own fault if afterwards you see that the person is actually a guy.

Thats like saying its your own fault if somebody lies to you.
 

2fast4u

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AlphaWolf said:
I think its just plain wrong that liberals expect you to recognize somebody by their transgendered sex. I have said it numerous times, I think crossdressing, sex change surgery, or whatever that crap they do should be illegal and considered fraud, and anybody who falls victim to it should be allowed to seek civil restitution. Being a homo is one thing, but transgendered deception crosses way too many lines to be tolerable.

right ... the government forcing reactionary moral values of individuals on the whole of society is just what we need. if a guy turns into a woman, big fucking deal. there is nothing in there that would hurt somebody else.

and if the opposite would be considered illegal as well, they would have to arrest demi moore, which could be a good idea even.
 

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
How about this then, if any intimate contact or relationship is initiated by a crossdresser/transexual, or by somebody else onto a crossdresser/transexual, then the crossdressing/transgender party must immediately notify the other party of their natural borne sex, and failure to do so can result in civil penalties and liabilities (as opposed to criminal.)

I'd call it: "The right to know" act.

BTW, I remember seeing a talk show once (I think it was maury) where several years ago some lady was legally married to what she thought was a man for two years. You think punishment for something like that isn't warranted?
 
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2fast4u

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its seems like a nice idea but on what grounds would you punish someone for "changing" his/her gender aside from the fact that you dont want people to do it? not even thinking about possible punishment.

in my opinion that would just open the door for homophobics and such trying to nail people on the grounds of their sexuality.
 

euphoria

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This exactly the right thing for all those RealityTV shitheads out there. This is the next best thing to whole RealityTV fading off.

I HATE REALITYTV!

Damn those svenska jävlarna...
 

AlphaWolf

I prey, not pray.
2fast4u said:
its seems like a nice idea but on what grounds would you punish someone for "changing" his/her gender aside from the fact that you dont want people to do it?

Simple, they are committing fraud. If you word it like I just mentioned, then the act of crossdressing or having a sex change itself would not be illegal. (And I personally could care less if they only did this as long as they do not involve me in it) What would be illegal is engaging in intimate behavior while under this false pretense.

When I run for president, this will be in my campaign speech :D
 
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2fast4u

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AlphaWolf said:
Simple, they are committing fraud. If you word it like I just mentioned, then the act of crossdressing or having a sex change itself would not be illegal. (And I personally could care less if they only did this as long as they do not involve me in it) What would be illegal is engaging in intimate behavior while under this false pretense.

cool, i can agree with that.
 

Clements

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Yeah, they should all annonce, "By the way, I'm a transexual" to all their partners at the first given opportunity for the benefit of their partner since it is very important issue in terms of loving another person.

No, even better, they should all wear a T-Shirt with "I'm a transexual" on it for the benefit of everybody who would want to be a prespective partner, since it matters a lot. It's not as if this transexual deserves to be treated as a woman.



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And yes, if I had an intimate, loving relationship with a woman, and then say, a year down the line said, "I'm a transexual", you know what, I wouldn't care! Some people these days, so prejudiced.
 

2fast4u

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Clements said:
And yes, if I had an intimate, loving relationship with a woman, and then say, a year down the line said, "I'm a transexual", you know what, I wouldn't care!

you sure that statement isnt a little too bold?
 
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Clements said:
And yes, if I had an intimate, loving relationship with a woman, and then say, a year down the line said, "I'm a transexual", you know what, I wouldn't care! Some people these days, so prejudiced.
Wow. So in a relationship, your motto is: "open and honest...eventually" :huh:
 

Clements

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I would empathize with the person and realise that it is a difficult issue and forgive her for not telling me if I actually loved her. The only thing that would really be an issue would be that we couldn't have children of our own.

Individuals who undergo the operations go through psychological testing to see if they really do feel that they have been born in the wrong body and the operation is just to correct it. They are NOT perverts or anything, that is an ignorant perspective. It's not homosexual, since the person effectively has a similar brain to a woman and not a man. (look some scientific websites regarding this, something about gender-defining nodes or something, can't remember exactly what it is)

Honesty is important obviously but you can understand why someone would hold this back. A bit like if I was a man born with no penis (for the record, I'm not without a penis :p), you would go around telling everybody about it, or would you? Would you be commiting fraud for not revealing a biological condition such as this? It's about the same thing.

I was just shocked at the hatred of these individuals being threated like sex offenders to be named and shamed, that's all.
 

vampireuk

Mr. Super Clever
The thing in this case is however he/she knew she/he/it/thing/urgh my eyes/the goggles they do nothing/man beast knew she was decieving these people, and for money.
 

rcgamer

the old guy
(to clements)
but in this situation they are using their transexuality for the sole purpose of humiliating these guys. and things like that are easy to say when you arent actually faced with the situation.
 

Clements

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I obviously don't agree with that stunt intent on humiliation, but in a real life situation as I described, she would not deserve to be fined or put in prison for what is merely holding back information of a biological condition.
 

2fast4u

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the problem is sex is usually about the biological condition, whether you prefer sex with the same or other gender. i have a hard time approving of fines as well, but the fraud argument seems interesting when turning to ... prostitution. otherwise i guess there would be no damage on which base you could fine anyway.

so .. in theory, if you pay to have sex with a woman get the woman turns out to be not a biological woman, you didnt get your moneys worth..
 
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Niggy G

HTAFC will rise again!!!
2fast4u said:
so .. in theory, if you pay to have sex with a woman get the woman turns out to be not a biological woman, you didnt get your moneys worth..


Thats got to be breaching the sale of goods act, lol
 
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