How Cigarettes are both evil and bad for you:)

[Eagle]

lain: Choice is something that is out of the Window for me.

As for smoking around People who Dont, I dont !
People who Smoke Near Children, That pure wrong,
but preaching at people who can do without your one sided Views is also Pure wrong.
You wanna Preach, Buy A Chapel.

I dont judge People.

If they are respectful to me, I am back
I treat poeple as i want to be treated in return.

Believe me I'm very Open Minded, If i wasnt & didnt give a Danm.
I would of told you to go see an agony aunt (Or A Shrink) over your recent misfortune.
But as i said, Im not that misunderstanding in Peoples personal Battles.

Gent

Got to do it again Theres nothing wrong with "Preaching" about the damage that smoking causes. If this thread managed to cause one person to give it up, then mission accomplished. The best way that knowledge can spread it through communication. If thats wrong, then every commercial that comes on TV must be "Preaching" about their product.

 

[Gent]

Got to do it again Theres nothing wrong with "Preaching" about the damage that smoking causes. If this thread managed to cause one person to give it up, then mission accomplished. The best way that knowledge can spread it through communication. If thats wrong, then every commercial that comes on TV must be "Preaching" about their product.

I suppose we should leagalize crack, speed, and other drugs because "Its their life"

Well to be honest Eagle.

1st: What bit of Me not smoking around anyone what-so-ever did you not understand ?
2nd: There is a lot wrong with someone preaching when it always seems to be one sided & ignorant in not listening to anothers point of view.

I had a very Religious guy in Chan who told me
That i should change to His way of Beliefs & if i didn't I was going to hell
Well i never Judged Or told him To Feck off, Others would of (Gent Is open Minded)
Besides I thanked him for the tip off, Always nice to know so i can be prepared.

Preaching beliefs Isn't a good Way to makes friends & influence people.

As for the Last Comment, Thats a Bit of a Twatty Thing to say isnt it ?

How about Tea (Yes It is an Addictive Drug also Im Told) You wanna Ban that Too ?
How about Coffee While we are at it ?
Thats also a Drug (& very Addictive) :sleepy:

 

[sytaylor]

Gent: you got my deffinition of preaching wrong... i said "im not going to preach" and i didnt, i havent judged anyone either, what i have said is that it annoys me... i dont know where you got the idea that venting one of my frustrations with certain memberos of the smoking population meant i was attacking you or that it infers i need to see a pschiatrist, but i assure you im fine

 

[sytaylor]

How about Tea (Yes It is an Addictive Drug also Im Told) You wanna Ban that Too ?
How about Coffee While we are at it ?
Thats also a Drug (& very Addictive) :sleepy:

addiction is not what makes smoking bad, the side effects are, you know, cancer, heart disease, decreased phisical ability, heightened coughing et al???

 

[Gent]

sytaylor, I did not aim the Preaching at you !
From your original Post read On.
It is pure Preaching !

addiction is not what makes smoking bad, the side effects are, you know, cancer, heart disease, decreased physical ability, heightened coughing et al

If everyone really lived life Purely we would still be living in Caves, Or Straw huts with Panda bears running around.

As for Cancer, Sunbathing can also lead to that, As can many many other things.

decreased physical ability Thats drink & Fatty Foods for you also.

(as of lack of exercise)

As for the Shrink Bit, I am merely demonstrating how one opinion Can be far away from the Truth.
You say you do not need one, As you are fine with yourself & Thats great.

Other will ask don't you have no one to talk to Other then Broadcasting to strangers on the Net.

Hey Syt, I have no Probs either way.


Personally i think this should be locked, But only because it will resolve nothing.

 

[Tri-Force]

lets not forget the second hand smoke and all you people defending smoking take a look at that. i have a right to breathe freash air. so why should i move because you chose to kill yourself and me? and here is something i have never heard.

SECOND HAND TEA BAGS KILL UN BORN CHILD!!!
SECOND HAND COFFEE FILTERS KILL STARBUCKS EMPLOYEES!!!
SECOND HAND CHOCOLATE BARS GAVE ME CANCER!!!!!

those headlines will never exsist. so please try to find a VALID arguement for killing others The Gentleman

 

[Gent]

Tri-Force I look foward to your poem on the matter :sleepy:

The World is being Killed For things You buy & use Everyday of your life, You wanna get off ?

 

[Josep]

The Gentleman: Does any thread solve anything IN this waay off the topic forum? Uh no, look at the exsistence of god one, and the babe thread, those are not going anywhere, they does not mean they should be closed.

The World is being Killed For things You buy & use Everyday of your life

No sh1t, and you can some back and say that everything we use from the world kills us in return, Everyone is essentially dying once they are born, its the rate at which they die determines irregular or unnatural cause of death.

I believe its a very kind act to stop people from smoking and invoke your beliefs on stopping someone from smoking, espeically if its some one you know, or care about. I would feel i am doing an act of injustice to turn my shoulder when i see someone i know smoking. Thats just my opinion, you have to keep an open mind and draw some lines between what you think is understandable and just plain wrong.

 

[Macca]

Gent, josep has a point about this thread being left open, its an open discussion for anyone to voice their opinions.

as for the smoking, i have to agree with you gent on the fact that everyone else in hear has no right to 'preach' to you or tell you otherwise when they don't even know who you are. i mean it may be alright to do it to a mate who you know and know where, what and how they smoke, but not a total stranger on the net.

Thats the thing with the net, you can't form relaiable opinions on a person whom you have only read what they have written. For all we know you could only ever smoke when you are alone or with no non-smokers around, how is this then affecting everyone else if there is no one there?

well i'm just ranting again so ignore me

 

[Eagle]

Oh, I give up, smoking kills, its a proven fact, and now I shall not look at this thread again.

 

[sytaylor]

"Motality is not an excuse to be stupid its a reason not to be" a quote i made up in retaliation to those trying to tell me that "smoking is ok", lets face it, its not ok, not only that but it affects others as well it affecting yourself... to me thats unfair, if you wanna put yourself though the things SCIENCE has PROOVEN to result in cancer, amougst other things (not just things preached by those who like clean air), then as long as you dont do it around me i have no problems with it

but please dont try aand pass smoking off as "ok" and "quite safe in moderation", because thats lying to others and yourself, it IS harmful, and it WILL bite you in the ass, and its you who has to live, or indeed die with your decision

 

[Josep]

yea, i ACTUALLY agree with sytaylor here, this isn't preaching, if you were to preach something to someone you would try to evoke hope, belief and faith in them. TELLING people smoking is very harmful in fact is informing them of the truth, a FACT, that has been proven countless times since cigarrettes have been initially released whenver that was. This isn't some religious thing that you have to take a leap of faith to understand, its about helping people prolong their lives and keep it healthy till their death, and second hand smoke btw...well sytaylor said it

 

[zodiacjaen]

oh god... all of you people sound just like religious fanatics.
smoking is something you choose to do. there are special areas almost everywhere you go so that smokers can smoke without bothering the non-smokers.
i smoke, but i dont do it because i think it makes e look cool or manly, i do it because i like it. if there is a person that doesnt like me smoking near him, all he or she has got to do is tell me politely and i gladly put out the cig. it is just a matter of choice.

P.S.
if you want to do something against smoking do it in another place, an anti-smoking forum... something like that. your opinions on smoking are not going to be taken seriously in an emulation related forum

 

[Eagle]

P.S.
if you want to do something against smoking do it in another place, an anti-smoking forum... something like that. your opinions on smoking are not going to be taken seriously in an emulation related forum

Thats kinda a stupid comment. How many smokers visit anit-smoking forums?

 

[ra5555]

I don't smoke... but I respect people's rights, though I'd rather have no one smokes. But if no body smokes, the tobacco industry will crash and make a lot of people straving... and we don't want that to happen. So it depends.

 

[Macca]

Oh, I give up, smoking kills, its a proven fact, and now I shall not look at this thread again.

/me points

Liar

 

[Trotterwatch]

I don't smoke - in fact I detest smoking. But each to their own, as long as they don't blow their smoke in my direction.

Some things I dislike about some smokers:

When they say "I smoke because it relaxes me" - bollocks

It only has a relaxant effect because without the Nicotine (which is more addictive than heroin) you are in effect going through mild Cold Turkey. When you get the Nicotine back inside you, all is well.

When they say "I smoke low tar cigarettes, so they are better for me" - again bollocks

When someone smokes lowtar cigarettes they tend to inhale much deeper in order to get the same effect, this means the smoke goes deeper into the lungs - not good.

When they say "Smoking is cool" - bollocks

It may be cool to some 15-16 year old kid (which is the group the tobacco firms target), but to anyone the least bit grown up, smoking is about as cool as watching a film where the word shit is used, y'know it doesn't register as good or not, just mediocre.


One benefit of smoking is that it is thought to help minimise the risks of suffering from both Alzheimers disease, and Parkinsons disease. This is due to the Nicotine stimulating the brain in a certain way. Drugs were under development, and I am sure still are that take the beneficial effects of the nicotine, whilst negating the negative effects, this would be useful in the treatment (though not cure) of these terrible conditions.

 

[DuDe]

Hmpf, I haven`t even seen this thread...
Anyway, I`ll only comment on the headline : ciggies are bad, that`s true, and it`s impossible to argue about that. But evil? What`s so evil about cigarettes? It`s not like that ciggie puts a gun to your head and makes you smoke it, does it?
All in all, cigarettes aren`t any more dangerous than any other modern life addictions, namely coffey (heart diseases), junk food (same), alcohol (liver diseases), etc, etc.

 

[icepir8]

Actually coffe is harder on the kidnees then the heart. I quit smoking a long time ago. Now to quit caffine.

Take up an addiction, like sex, that is good for you. <a href="glossary.php?<r=l">LOL</a>.

 

[DuDe]

I`ll second that!