How Cigarettes are both evil and bad for you:)

[AlphaWolf]

Hahaha you all will think I am a serious asshole for what I'm about to say, but I am all for people getting addicted to drugs

Think about it, when somebody ends up being a junkie, they made the chioce to be at the bottom of society, which leaves more room for all of the people who are worth a damn at the top. Less competition for everybody who makes the right choices. Also theres the fact that people can be controlled by their addictions, (the main reason I avoid it). :devil:

Don't anybody give me any shit about how if they started when they were 12 or something that its not their fault because they "didn't have the mental capacity to make wise decisions at that age" blah blah blah, because when I was 11 I was confronted with that and actively refused it for this very reason.

Lifes full of decisions, if you make the decision to be a lowlife, thats fine by me, and I commend you and give you a pat on the back for leaving room for the better members of society :sly:

 

[2fast4u]

i suggest u stop thinking in black and white. theres a bigass huge middleway between being a junkie and being clean. its called being a human. most people like to drink alocohol and still they are far away from being junkies and at the same time they are succesful in their jobs, have a family and enuff money. i like to drink alocohol and smoke once in a while. does that make me bad? yeah right ..

now else .. who are u to declare urself a better member of society than others? have u ever thought about the good of anyone rather than urself? i have a feeling the answer is no.

thus .. im thinking u are a snooty, egocentric well-u-know-what. thank yew very much.

 

[AlphaWolf]

i suggest u stop thinking in black and white. theres a bigass huge middleway between being a junkie and being clean.

Yep, hence I used the word junkie.

its called being a human. most people like to drink alocohol and still they are far away from being junkies and at the same time they are succesful in their jobs, have a family and enuff money. i like to drink alocohol and smoke once in a while. does that make me bad? yeah right ..

Yep, hence I used the word junkie.

now else .. who are u to declare urself a better member of society than others? have u ever thought about the good of anyone rather than urself? i have a feeling the answer is no.

I wouldn't say that entirely...I was thinking about how if we legalized marijuana or other drugs, the taxes we put on them could go to benefit social security. (addicts be inelligible, kinda like a life insurance policy)

thus .. im thinking u are a snooty, egocentric well-u-know-what. thank yew very much.

Yep, you seem to have figured me out quite well dear watson.


DuDe: didn't I tell you he would be the first person to reply?

 

[Jaz]

Well, gokuss4 I don't see how the government has much of a choice. Yes they could declare tobacco an illegal drug, but doing so could have strong reprecussions on the economy.

Think about it - a packet of cigarettes costs about £4.50 in the UK. £3, or probably more, of that is government TAX. If smoking stopped, the government would be fucked.

 

[sytaylor]

taxing the stupid is and incredibly smart idea... the amount saved on the nhs wouldnt quite outweigh the cost of loosing the income of tabacco based tax... theyd rather kill us than save us, espeically this latest lot, stealth taxes and all!

 

[AlphaWolf]

/me wonders if 2fast4u and zodiacjaen are trying to legitamize smoking....

EDIT:
Actualy heres something I want to know, why did either of you start smoking to begin with?

 

[Jaz]

the amount saved on the nhs wouldnt quite outweigh the cost of loosing the income of tabacco based tax... theyd rather kill us than save us, espeically this latest lot, stealth taxes and all!

The smokers of the UK practically pay for the NHS outright.

 

[2fast4u]

/me wonders if 2fast4u and zodiacjaen are trying to legitamize smoking....

nope ... but its human to have weaken, right?

Actualy heres something I want to know, why did either of you start smoking to begin with?

nope

 

[AlphaWolf]

/me wonders if 2fast4u and zodiacjaen are trying to legitamize smoking....

nope ... but its human to have weaken, right?

yeah I suppose its possible to fall to communism, but I fail understand where this answer came from.

Actualy heres something I want to know, why did either of you start smoking to begin with?

nope

ok

i like to drink alocohol and smoke once in a while.

what?

 

[Eagle]

Oh, I give up, smoking kills, its a proven fact, and now I shall not look at this thread again.

* Macca points

Liar

I forgot I posted that, considering it was April 22 when I did. Who dug this thread up anyhow?

 

[Eagle]

Guys if you really want to get rid of smoking Jaz mentioned the only way to do it without hurting the economy. Raise taxes. Not a lot, but gradually more and more (Bill Clinton tried to start this, see he did some smart things too, unfortunately he did more stupid things but well I'm getting outside my point) If you continue on a veeeery gradual basis to tax tobbaco more and more it will phase out without hurting the economy one bit. Eventually they will be too expensive to afford and slowly people will force themselves to quit.

 

[2fast4u]

yeah I suppose its possible to fall to communism, but I fail understand where this answer came from.

eh?

 

[zodiacjaen]

to eagle: smokers that visit anti smoking panels visit them because of 2 reasons: A) they have an open mind and like to see other peoples opinions and B) they accidentaly ran into them while looking for an emulation forum...

 

[zodiacjaen]

alpha wolf: I dont want to get it legitimize smoking....
and i will be the first to admit it: I started smoking out of pure stupidity, and I havent been able to stop. it IS addictive, it IS bad for you, it Is a whole lot of other things, but since it is addictive the weaker smoker cant even try to quit. its just reality.
PS: i AM trying to quit and I WILL quit, hopefully

 

[AlphaWolf]

eh?

In other words, the answers you gave don't make any sense. Elaborate...e.g. what does weakening have to do with legitamizing? and why did you answer no to the second question?

 

[Olger901]

I have done almost everything. I even tried some Weed (Without tabacco) But I have never taken a smoke out of 1 sigarette I can tell you that

 

[Jaz]

I even tried some Weed (Without tabacco)

You do realise that that would almost kill you?

 

[Stezo2k]

hes probably kidding

 

[Josep]

wtf?! i made this thread months ago! anyway, if you smoke, lets hope you'll stop otherwise you'll have one shitty life when you are older, if you get older...yea thats really general but in a nutshell

 

[B*A*G*G]

life is to short
SMOKE UP!!!
here, let me light that for you :devil: