His reasonings behind stuff is a joke. The guy is not even taken serious by any true developer I know of .. a large majority of the main emulation sites don't even take this project seriously. The guy is never going to get respect and that is fine with me and hopefully as more facts come out about Snail and his hacking people will see the truth once again.Snail said:Its been more then a year since the public has gotten much news on this subject.
In short...
Sega of America no longer exists.
Sega of Japan does not care so long as no money/profits are made.
The "Cassini Emulator" has been Trademarked.
While not the overwhelming support we hoped we might get from Sega or Sammy, the bottom line is, Team Cassini has the legal right to release this work so long as we don't step on Japan's toes.
I would also like to add, no member of Team Cassini has received a single complain, threat, or flaming from any of Sega or Sammy...
unlike the ingrates, some 2,000+ who flooded my email.
To date, an estimated 50,000 copies of Gav's GiriGiri and nearly 250,000 copies of Cassini 1.0 have been downloaded in the past year just from our homepage alone.
Based on the current curve, Cassini 2.0 would have surpassed that... if not for this weeks release of Cassini 3.
As such, no further debates, flames, or complaints about legality will be tollerated.
The matter is settled.
Onimaru said:This will be the 3rd time I have posted this information. It has been deleted twice now and is a good indication that the truth is being censored. It is obvious now that Snail will not address or admit to the hacking of Giri Saturn Cheater and CDmage.
I am personally baffled by this because I would assume he would want to defend any false claims against his work and this project. If his work is legit then why has he not given solid and to the point answers to these claims? If you look at his previous posts about it he pretty much avoids the claims and even in one post talks about a program for DC cheating that is completely unrelated.
Is it really that hard to address these claims with solid proof they are not hacked and added to the Cassini package?
Why delete these posts when they are clearly respectable and mature while at the same time contain no flaming whats so ever.
For reference here is the previous post that has been deleted two times now. I am also curious what forum rules I am breaking that would cause my posts to be deleted? I am also curious how else do you want us to approach this subject? Other people flamed and it was not welcomed and I agree flaming is not needed. I have shown this project and the team behind it great respect and it would be nice to have some answers in return out of respect. Thanks for your time.
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The above post by Snail has no reference to the problem at hand. The above post is comparing an unrelated program that is not even being claimed of being hacked. Nobody said Chankast Cheater was the program hacked by the Cassini Team.
The program is called Giri Saturn Cheater which can be found here.
http://www.emutalk.net/saturn-shack/27603-...iricheater.html
This has been pointed out here multiple times but for some reason every reference to this information has been deleted. Can we finally please address this issue instead of avoiding it directly.
The other program that is being hacked is CDmage which Snail has not even mentioned let alone denied hacking.
http://www.geocities.com/cdmage/
People compare for yourselfs and you will see you do not need screenshots for proof when these other programs will show you when you try them.
This is no way an attempt to flame this project or trying to kill it. This post sole purpose is to finally get some answers to the hacking claims. Please be straight with us Snail rather then deleting respectable posts.
Snail said:This is very sad.
Popular shitheads like Kieth, running EmuTalk, a well known and severe flaming forum that don't just bash Cassini, making life misserable for others.
I typically try to refrain from even responding to such crap, but when it keeps flowing out of him mouth year, after year, after year... one must question if this guy has nothing better to do.
He has done nothing to try and make Saturn emulation legal.
His flaming started at the mere mention that someone was going to work on the GiriGiri emulator again (months before I even had anything to do with the project... which make one wonder why he focuses all his hate at me.)
Not taken serious??? Excuse me, but I've been making coumputer for over 30 years and running a software company for nearly 25 years.
My work is used world wide and even in the US military.
Kieth knows not a damn thing about me, yet still flames on and on as though he knows me personaly.
The majority of the sites who "don't take this project seriously" fall mainly into 1 of 2 catagories...
A. Those worried about the BIOS situation
B. Those with nose-rings being led around by Kieth
As to the bios, that it wholey understandable and very subject to regional laws.
As for Keith, that he has spent years trying to destroy the work started by Team Giri, speaks for itself. With as much bitching he does, and flame wars he promotes by others, one has to wonder why he doesn't go after Mic, or Lock, or Mad, or even Sega themself, as Sega didn't even make the original emulator... no, far easier for him to go on about those he knows nothing about.
Personaly, I pitty anyone with so much hate in them.
It does however, make me want to reinforce the fact, this forum will not tollerate flaming, flamers, invites to flaming forum or flaming wars.
If you need assistance, ask.
If you were over looked on credit and want to be included, ask.
If you have a tech question, ask.
If you want to leave a possative comment, feel free.
But if all you want to do is promote more anger, hatred, and the like, by all means, go to EmuTalk and flame away. They openly welcome flamers.
Ok now to reply to this ... first off it's Keith .. not Kieth.Snail said:Keith has been going on about how flamer posts or invites to flame war posts, have been deleted, even though all of Team Cassini's posts on EmuTalk were deleted first.
While EmuTalk, the heart of all the hate for Cassini, continues to delete posts supporting Cassini, they continue to try and flame our own forums with their hate.
Further, I should also like to add that at least 3 people on Kieths forum have threatened me personaly with physical violence.
The latest-
(Clearly, another case of a braggard who know's nothing about me.)cooliscool said:cooliscool
Location: USA
... I'd love to go to each of their houses individually and torture them ...
Copies of those threats/posts have been sent to Kulvagen 6 and Tera-Byte.com (hosts).
Copies have also been sent to the OJJDP, a group that investigates threats posted on the internet, which include intent to cause bodily harm. Funded by the Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention and the Department of Education for a safe internet.
Should Keith continue to opperate his hate forum as is, it will result in further action.
And Kieth, since I know you read this forum... you've been given the only warning you'll get. It's one thing to promote hate on your forums... its another to promote it to levels of threats.
cooliscool said:I respect you for keeping this fight going Keith, beyond words.. I fear, however, that we're really beating the dead horse as this "snail" character simply won't give it up. :yawn:
"Team Cassini".. I don't think I've ever despised anything so much.
Yup , here's one more that mysteriously vanished...Keith said:lol .. guess Snail is now banning anyone who speaks any sort of truth even if it is not related to the current hacking complaints.
Snail said:Personaly, I pitty anyone with so much hate in them.
Snail said:In the last release, a long time aggressive group of people led by Keith, did as they have done for ages, flamed Cassini to no end. The 2 largest complaints (aside from Cassini being based on GiriGiri) is the use of 2 tools added in 3.0. The first, a slightly modified version of CDmage. Keith and his cronies seem to feel unless THEY have copies of each and every email of communication Team Cassini has, that it must not exist and thus they have the right to cause flame wars.
(It is bad enough the amount of hatred displayed on their own forum, but then they try to repeatedly flood our own forums with their hate. They go too far however when they begin to make threats of physical injury (and for this, and this alone, have been reported to watch groups for internet violence).
On their forums, they bitch and bitch to no end that Team Cassini refuses to address their flames in this matter. And why should we? When our own forums were down for a move to a new location, they used the time to spread rumors and outright lies that Cassini was shut down for criminal activities when nothing could be further from the truth. We have better things to do then waste time with all their hatred. None the less...
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-------Original Message-------
From: Snail
Date: 04/9/03 16:42:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Permission
I am interested in using your tool for its 2535 capabilities in a project I am working on.
-------Received Message-------
From: Thorn
Date: 04/12/03 13:02:28
To: Snail
Subject: RE: Permission
meh, it's there for use by all
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Snail said:Next, was the outrage caused by the new loader.
I want to make it clear, that the code was submitted for use by Team Cassini. Those submitting the code were credited. The code was modified to work with the Cassini Emulator (which it did not prior.)
The problem comes in that, claims have been made that those who submitted the code did not make it. Keith and his cronies have accused Team Cassini of having "stolen" the code. They do not care what so ever about who "leaked" the code. At their forum they deleted every post made to clarify and defend this situation. They attempted to flood and destroy the Cassini forums.
Next, they made claim to all the work, on other emu sites, and continue to trash it on their own forums.
"Thank you Keith for the updated status of this emulator and its new features!"
This is on NGEmu, EmuFanatics, Emus4You, and likely more. Keith... who has nothing to do with Cassini, and hosts the CRAPsinni hate forum.
Within the past week, many people have stepped up to claim the code as their own; (most of them with IP's matching those from Crapsinni) and even claimed work done by Snail, as entirely their own.
Clearly, many liars in all at Crapsinni.
This has resulted in our banning of several users, placing security and rules on the forum, and making it clear, Team Cassini will NOT tolerate this sort of behavior, especially from Crapsinni supporters, a.k.a. EmuTalk.
Given the long time Keith and his supporters have attacked Cassini, it is very much believed this situation was caused intentionally.
Snail said:The one and only person with possible legitimate claim, is the one who never made any.
As such, since credit was given where thought due, since the code has been changed to work on Cassini,
since so many people have lied about development of the code, and since the one possible person
that may have started the original code has acted as they have, the code will remain as is.
Further, far more scrutiny will be given to outside support of the project.
Snail said:Also...
Added a new tool, with even more supports. GSaturn, is a .NET frontend/multitool, that to my knowledge is a 100% work by Lau Han Ching (minor alterations to work on Cassini).
One of the largest flames against Cassini, is that it is not 100% "our" work. Well, I took at look at what Crapsinni they had to say about Lau's work. Guess what... flamed as well.
In May, EmuTalk, a.k.a. Crapsinni, even started sending Lau virii and flames via e-mail... sound familiar? Several Cassini members had to change email accounts over the past couple weeks from simular attacks.
Snail said:The point is, Keith and his cronies are all about flaming, hate, and destroying anything they don't have total control over. They have lied, flamed, attacked, trashed forums, made personal threats, sent virii, spammed e-mail, attacked servers, and all over something, they claim, is shit and they could care less about. Keith will tell you he's not about hate at all and make invites to forums, only then to make it into a bashing.
Our choice to ban these sort of people, remove their posts, and refuse to step down to their level, is not to be anti-social, rather, it is to brush them aside without resorting to the same sort of attacks they use on others.