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Allnatural
May 23rd, 2005, 04:35
came away a bit disappointed

2fast4u
May 23rd, 2005, 09:30
ditto. the lightsaber battles were sweet though. i also liked how the story makes sense as a whole now, they did a nice job on that. by no means a bad movie but nothing overwhelming either.

RJARRRPCGP
May 23rd, 2005, 09:58
LOL! Star Warts! J/K ;)

smcd
May 23rd, 2005, 23:06
Star What?

Niggy G
May 24th, 2005, 12:28
To there own, each is http://forums.starwars.com/share/img/emoticons/happy.gif

I liked it, ive not read a good review on it yet though.

retroK
May 24th, 2005, 14:27
I liked it! Great movie.

cooliscool
May 24th, 2005, 22:06
I thought it was pretty good.. a bit vague and not really gripping, and definitely missing "something."

Stalkid64
May 24th, 2005, 23:46
I've heard from a lot of sources that the Spanish dub is much better. Could be true; hack out Hayden Whoeverthef-ckboybandreject's extremely wooden performance and complete lack of talent at conveying any kind of human emotion whatsoever, and throw in talented voiceover actors who are used to acting without things in front of them and you never know.
General Grievous may even usurp Jar-Jar's place as Worst CGI Creation Ever. A robot that not only has an annoyingly overdone voice but COUGHS..? COUGHS! WHAT IN THE F-CK IS THAT ABOUT... and I'm blanking the memory of that lizard thing out of my head forever. That atrocity just did not happen.
The stuff between Anakin and The Emperor was also rather rushed through and not entirely convincing in terms of motivation because of it. The "love" scenes were painful beyond belief - again down to Hayden. Had it not been for the gods-awful surfing part, the final fight would have actually made up for most of the film. As for the ending, I wish to personally eviscerate Lucas for the Darth Vader "NOOO". They could have done a lot more by extending the scene and having the place get REALLY trashed. Build some kind of intensity out of it. Throw in some kind of ceremony with Vader taken onboard a Star Destroyer and introduced for the first time, emerging from a shuttle much to the crews instant intimdation, have the Emperor present him with the Episode 4 red lightsaber then cut to the bridge overlooking early stages of the Death Star's construction and the rest of the film. A nice ominous ending.

Also I don't think I'm supposed to be practically cheering with joy at seeing Hayden cut in half... but hey. ;)

Allnatural
May 25th, 2005, 01:25
Have to agree with the above. Plus, I knew it was a bad idea to put Hayden in the suit. A short, scrawny Vader. Thanks George...

David Prowse > Hayden Christensen

Stezo2k
May 25th, 2005, 01:37
haha, thats quality :D

dogdogwoof
May 25th, 2005, 04:36
i seen it, i didnt really think much of it. though i think it was better than the other 2 prequels

revl8er
May 25th, 2005, 05:03
I really enjoyed the movie, I thought the story of it was great and the fights were also equally great. The last scream that vader had at the end of the movie was lame though.

gokuss4
May 25th, 2005, 05:31
A robot that not only has an annoyingly overdone voice but COUGHS..? COUGHS! WHAT IN THE F-CK IS THAT ABOUT...
If you saw the Star Wars clone wars cartoons, you would've saw his chest get crushed by force push.

I thought the movie was great. I do agree the acting was a bit horrid, but I knew it was gonna be, so I ignored that and just paid more attention to the fight scenes and special effects :P. Dude.. the love scenes were hella badly acted.

2fast4u
May 25th, 2005, 09:49
heh i totally forgot about the embarassing "NOOOOOOOOO"-scene. first problem is that this is so overdone its a movie cliché and beyond that, vader trying to scream is like ... uhm ... a lung cancer patient trying to scream. it was a bit whacked.

Stalkid64
May 26th, 2005, 10:28
I love the fact that even though Hayden had a muscle suit and lifters under the Vader costume he still looked nowhere near Prowse standard.

Eagle
May 26th, 2005, 13:54
GOing to see it this weekend... not reading this thread.

/me sticks his fingers in his ears

lalalalalalalalala I'm not listening.

Stalkid64
May 26th, 2005, 23:17
Goooood...
You will be.
You will be... ;)
/EmpireStrikesBackYoda=1

dogdogwoof
May 27th, 2005, 06:45
formatmovie = true

Stalkid64
May 27th, 2005, 10:43
Isn't that one of the initial commands Lucas would use to `generate` a Star Wars movie these days..? ;)
It's followed by;
Load_ACTRHUMAN_OBI1
Load_ACTRCGI_YODA
Load_ACTRBLOCKOFWOOD_HAYDEN
Load_OBJ_SABER
Load_GENERICCGIBACDROPS
Load_STARWARSEPISODEIV_DIALOGUEMP3S /s RANDOMIZESNIPPETSMODE
RenderStarWarsMovie=1

(They just altered the number at the end for II and III respectively.)

Eagle
May 31st, 2005, 19:08
I saw it, I agree with some of the above comments. I kinda thought they tried too hard to get everything in, and ended up going too fast. It almost seemed like one minute Anakin was reporting his findings about Darth Sidious to Windu, and the next he was killing Windu. Here I am good, now I'm evil. I expected more of a gradual fall into darkness, not and instantaneous change. It would have been better if they had less of the clone war in it and concentrated on the character developments. I though McGreggor's performace on the confrontation just after slicing Vadar was really well done. You can't get much more emotion than that. Padme's turnaround was just terrible. I mean, what the hell. In the first two movies shes this activist queen which goes to an activist senator and in the third she becomes a passive wife. I guess ol' Ani beat her into submission or something. Overall it was a good movie, but just didnt fit very well. It did explain a lot though, made all the pieces fit together in the story line into the original 3 movies. I cant help feeling some dissapointment though.

Toasty
May 31st, 2005, 22:27
Well, I liked it. :) I must say they had some very good special effects. Still can't get over how funny that scene with Yoda and the two guards was. And they did a good job of making Emperor Palpatine as evil as ever. I have a soft spot for Star Wars too, so if the acting was crummy, I managed to ignore it. :P

Flash
May 31st, 2005, 22:41
IMO Episode III is the best in new trilogy, but classic trilogy is waaaay better

euphoria
June 2nd, 2005, 14:24
George Lucas can't direct for shit (or should i say, sith). But a movie with Natalie Portman is always worth watching, infact she's the only reason to watch Epidode II.

The first battle was sweeet. If Lucas' ego just would've bent a little to get a decent director to the films and he could've concentrated on the CG stuff, which he's apparently good at.

A good thing they won't be making anymore of these.

smcd
June 2nd, 2005, 17:26
A good thing they won't be making anymore of these.


Don't be so sure. Lucas likes to keep beating a horse long after it should be dead :P

Eagle
June 2nd, 2005, 19:11
A good thing they won't be making anymore of these.

Actually when he annouced these 3, he mentioned the possibility of another 3 beyond them. Plus there is guarunteed to be a cartoon series and a television series to follow, its already been announced.

Stalkid64
June 3rd, 2005, 01:19
Uh, not to worry anyone about further misery that he may inflict on SW fans (okay... fine, I didn't actually hate EPIII entirely after another viewing. "Overall" I might even have enjoyed it.) but there was some talk on /. a week or so ago about possible prequels to the prequels being made. What I actually wouldn't object to would be the excellent story from KOTOR being made into a film, or some kind of amalgamation of the two games. Those were characters that were very interesting and HK-47 and Revan (and to an extent Nihilus) were just made for mainstream movie glory. The other interesting side would be to go into something about Anakin's (IIRC) never-mentioned father. If he left Anakin's mother for some darker reason, perhaps even was responsible for them becoming slaves, there may be something worth looking at along those lines.
Meh, maybe I'm just getting impatient for a "KOTORIII" announcement now. ;)

Allnatural
June 3rd, 2005, 04:30
hehe...http://vadercoaster.ytmnd.com/


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

dave_luther
June 3rd, 2005, 20:51
thought it was much better than star wars II , the acting of hayden christensen marignally improved and less cliched lines except for the nooooooo although you cant forgive the "i hate it when he does that" and "i hate flying" makes him sound like indiana jones "i hate snakes"

Amon_Knives
June 4th, 2005, 09:42
I'm just gonna add my two sense in. Technically, a jedi is supposed to be mildly monotone, so the bad acting there can be justified. But it was still really horrible acting, especially on Natalie Portman's part. But then again, acting hasn't been George's strongpoint. George Lucas is my idol, and I have met him in person, so the whole thing about the jedi being monotone is straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak, when i asked him about the stale acting of episode II). And yes, that whole Vader "NOOOOO" thing was really embarrasing for all Star Wars fans. There will definately not be any prequals to the prequals (I think we can leave that to book writers, hey, gives George a few more bucks, even though he's stinkin rich already). There was, when Star Wars was originally dreamed up, supposed to be 9 movies. George has never claimed to be a good director, in fact he saw that in the first movie (episode 4). Thats why he hired Irvin Kershner for Empire. But when he decided that, just for his own pleasure and hopefully the pleasure of die hard fans, he would make the prequals, telling of Anakin's turn to the dark side, he decided he would want to be in the director's seat. He said that after episode III, he would most likely be turning in the title of director and maybe stick to producing (Indy 4 anyone?). I'll try to quote him on this..."If the last three Star Wars were to ever come out, I would only be a supervisor. But seeing as how old Mark and Harrison are getting, it is probably a good bet to say that the last three Star Wars will never come out, at least on film." Yes, this is the end of Star Wars movies. If there are any more stories to squeeze out of it, it will be left up to the imagination of writers. Episode III may not be anywhere near a nominee for best picture (and definatly not for acting), but it was a very good wrap up of the Star Wars saga...which is exactly what George was aiming for when he made it.

And I'd like to say THANK GOD FOR THE STAR WARS CELEBRATION CONVENTION!!!!!
yes...I am a die hard fan, and anyone who wants to critisize me, i dont care, im a geek, im used to it...lol

blizz
June 4th, 2005, 11:04
I want my two hours back. That film was fucking awful.

2fast4u
June 4th, 2005, 14:04
commentary... (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=150)

Jaz
June 4th, 2005, 16:15
I was a little dissapointed too. But then I've never been a great fan of Star Wars.

Looking forward to Sin City and House of Wax this week.

Eagle
June 6th, 2005, 05:04
The other interesting side would be to go into something about Anakin's (IIRC) never-mentioned father. If he left Anakin's mother for some darker reason, perhaps even was responsible for them becoming slaves, there may be something worth looking at along those lines.

yeah, have you seen episode 1, or 3 for that matter? In episode 1 it was said that Anakin had no fater, he was concieved of the midichlorians. In episode 3 it was said that an evil sith lord could actually make the midichlorians create life. In other words, Anakin was only alive because Darth Sidious made it happen. He had planned all of it the whole time. The only father Anakin ever had was Darth Sidious himself.

Amon_Knives
June 6th, 2005, 07:08
Um, Stalkid64, now that I'm reading ur stuff here...do u even pay attention to anything in Star Wars movies...it's a lot deeper than at first sight, which is why most people don't understand it and call it crap.

Stalkid64
June 6th, 2005, 17:08
Actually I think Lucas himself would probably contradict you on that. The movies are space-opera. Fantasy. Everyone goes too far into trying to read things that aren't there or at least were never intended to be. They're entertainment. Nothing more. The "wise" talk from Yoda in Empire Strikes back for example is something everyone seems to consider this incredibly deep meaningful insightful thing, and I either read or it may have even been in the commentaries recently that according to Lucas there was absolutely no intention or belief that these things were meant in such a fashion. I was surprised by that myself, but there you have it. Essentially it was "Yoda talking garbage" to move the story along. End of story. People manage to go looking for the deeper meanings all by themselves.

As for the whole "midichlorians" issue, I haven't seen an unedited version of Ep 1 for a long, long time. I simply forgot it even existed. A lot of SW fans `considered (it) to be... unnatural.` Ahem.;) Still... Ep III does refer to the story of the other Sith lord as a "Sith legend" which usually indicates something that happened in the distant past. Then going on the film, the knowledge of this technique has also not been passed down as far as Sideous/The Emperor himself, as he tells Anakin that they will `learn the secret to using this power together`. Then of course these are stories from a man who twisted up Anakin's and Luke's family so much that in Ep IV Luke is living with an "Uncle" he isn't actually related to who was Anakin's mothers second-husbands brother (?!) and Ben doesn't recall ever owning a droid or knowing R2-D2 and C3PO. Something you'd expect he might do considering the prequels. ;)

The whole Jedi thing was best left as a mysterious angle and honestly the films are much more enjoyable when stuff like that ("science" to make it sound plausible) is just left out. After all, we don't get technical explanations of how a lighsaber works and no one really cares. You have to buy into it. People find meaning in anything if they look hard enough.

Eagle
June 7th, 2005, 13:53
Yes sidious said he didnt know how to do what the "Sith legend" did, but you believed him? Seriously, were talking about a sith lord that lives through lies and deceipt and you believed what he told anakin? I think Sidious knew how to do it, I think he had a part in creating Anakin, and that he was able to forsee all along what Anakin would become.