Mario Kart: Double Dash (Now with video)

[Jaz]

Maybe there is hope yet for the little purple one..

"According to unconfirmed reports, Mario Kart GC will support LAN play on Nintendo GameCube - allowing for up to eight players to compete simultaneously on two connected consoles. It's not known whether LAN support will be facilitated by the GameCube Broadband Adapter or via the long-rumored GameCube wireless connectivity device that Nintendo may be set to unveil at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in May."

[blizz]

"In other unconfirmed reports Jaz will post topics under the right heading in future. This will save blizz the effort of asking other moderators to do Jaz's job for him."

although maybe we should integrate all of Jaz's GC posts into a collective "Jaz's bashes the GC he just bought it even though he knew didn't really like most of the games on it."

although you could do that for me and the X-Box :D

[Jaz]

Originally posted by blizz
"In other unconfirmed reports Jaz will post topics under the right heading in future. This will save blizz the effort of asking other moderators to do Jaz's job for him."

Suck it. :doh:

[Remote]

Haha... :D

[jvolel]

MAn the hell with lan play let it support netplay!!! omg am really loosing faith in nintendo now. I used to be a die hard fan but now ahhh the hell with it!...... I mean who the hell has 2 tvs and 2 gc's to play lan play all the freakin time!!!! @#$%ing dumb@$$ company!

[blizz]

Originally posted by jvolel
MAn the hell with lan play let it support netplay!!! omg am really loosing faith in nintendo now. I used to be a die hard fan but now ahhh the hell with it!...... I mean who the hell has 2 tvs and 2 gc's to play lan play all the freakin time!!!! @#$%ing dumb@$$ company!

Students!! who were the main users of goldeneye when it came out (ah memories ;) )

[Tagrineth]

Originally posted by jvolel
MAn the hell with lan play let it support netplay!!! omg am really loosing faith in nintendo now. I used to be a die hard fan but now ahhh the hell with it!...... I mean who the hell has 2 tvs and 2 gc's to play lan play all the freakin time!!!! @#$%ing dumb@$$ company!

Well, half the point to the GameCube's design was so it would be portable (handle, anyone?).

And MANY people have two TV's in their homes, just not necessarily in the same room. And if MKGC's networking is wireless, that should be irrelevant. :)

[Vchat20]

Anyone remember the additional LCD screen for it? add that and the additional battery pack and you can play it just about anywhere just like the GBA. :)

[Clements]

I'd be up for that, that's for sure. Just imagine, 8-player GC Mario Kart! Utter heaven in my opinion. Now I just need 7 chumps to con into playing me :happy:

[Vchat20]

btw, does anyone know the latest prices of the LCD screen or battery? cuz I think I have convinced my mom into a GC and if I can kiss @$$ enough I might just be able to get the screen and battery.

[Davemc]

Yeah, nice one, no more loser goes off. ;)
What they should include is that when you pre-order you should get a bonus disc including the Snes and N64 versions. And a cheese & tomato pizza.

[Gorxon]

Well, if they integrate LAN play you can be 100% sure that GameSpy or some coder will make a PC app that connects thru intenet...and voila, inet play. YOuj just connect your GC thru your PC's inet or something, i'm sure it's doable and wil be done...:holiday:

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Gorxon
i'm sure it's doable and wil be done...

A-fucking-men. :satisfied

[Plisco]

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/driving/supermariokartworkingtitle/news_6025528.html
:)

[DiaBlo6662]

finally some pics of mk!!
i hope they make it 'somewhat' mature..

[Davemc]

MMMMM, They should of stuck to karts. Now it's more of a Wackey Races rip-off.

They need to have a single character mode too. Double should be an option.

[Plisco]

I think I am going to wait until ppl have played and previewed it before I comment on it. However I think I would have preferred karts with more characters...

[Davemc]

I dont see how it is going to be Mario Kart in its best form when you are driving huge carriages instead of small streamline carts. It's gonna play completely different I think, and lose the special Mario Kart feel.

[Clements]

They can race on filing cabinets for all I care! The new carts are much better IMO and show more of the GC's power than boring identical carts for each player. It looks great! Already you can see loads more characters, 16 at least according to the article, two per cart in the screenshot shown. Its bound to play excellently like every other game in the series.

[Plisco]

Originally posted by Clements
They can race on filing cabinets for all I care! The new carts are much better IMO and show more of the GC's power than boring identical carts for each player. It looks great! Already you can see loads more characters, 16 at least according to the article, two per cart in the screenshot shown. Its bound to play excellently like every other game in the series.


I am not dissmissing the idea but would you not have prefered to have 16 characters in 16 different vehicles at the same time?

[Clements]

Not really. You'd have loads of characters sending power-ups your way. When I play Mario Kart, I always shoot to the front within seconds- it was bad enough on MK64 with 7 characters firing hundreds of power-ups at you. With 16 racers you'd probably get slowdowns with karters of that polygon count. You'd sacrifice graphics for more karters, so 8 at the same time is good like every other Mario Kart game.

[Plisco]

Good point but when you talk of slowdowns I think you are looking at if the game was made for n64 with 16 characters in each race. I think GC could handle it. Look at F-Zero GC. I think the vehicles look pretty dam gd there. Two different games I know but the GC could and should be able to handle it.

What I do like about the new mario kart is the possible tactics when switching characters some characters being quicker or better at handling, I think b4 hand somthing to add tactical moves to the racing must have been added to the game. However should the game be called mario kart when you can hardly call those vehicles karts?

[Davemc]

Yeah, it shouldn't be Mario Kart really.
Cool that Diddy Kong is in there. If only Rare hadn't been bought out we could of seen some of the best characters ever in there such as Timber the Tiger. *cough*

[Jaz]

Good to see a screeny at last, but yeah, bring back the karts! :doh:

[Jaz]

Originally posted by dayve
... such as Timber the Tiger. *cough*

*rotflmfao* :happy:

[Davemc]

Diddy Kong Racing was the first game I got for my N64. One of my lame mates always chose Timber. :plain:
TIMBER!!!!... COOL!!!

[DiaBlo6662]

diddy kong racing suck vs mk64 IMO.
yehaa troopa koopa is back !! but new mk look so kiddie.. hope it get a good review before i could buy it..

[Raging Fuel]

Originally posted by DiaBlo6662
but new mk look so kiddie

ROFLMAO

[pj64er]

Originally posted by DiaBlo6662
but new mk look so kiddie.. hope it get a good review before i could buy it..

Did i miss out on all the gore/sex/violence in the older mario karts?


(from now on, anyone who dismisses a game 'cuz it looks kiddie' gets a spanking from :n64:)

[Jaz]

Originally posted by pj64er
(from now on, anyone who dismisses a game 'cuz it looks kiddie' gets a spanking)

Okay. But can I diss a game because Cel-Shading is Wank™? :happy:

[Clements]

Upcoming GC Killer 7 shows how Cel-Shading should be done.

[Plisco]

Originally posted by Clements
Upcoming GC Killer 7 shows how Cel-Shading should be done.
Which games do you feel are'nt done right then?

[pj64er]

Originally posted by Jaz
Okay. But can I diss a game because Cel-Shading is Wank™? :happy:

dissing a game due to its graphic-funky-ness gets you an ass grab...:plain:

(Dont do it Jaz, Im warning you!:doh: )

[Clements]

A game like Killer 7 uses Cel -Shading to give it a film-like feel and a spooky atmoshere. Some games use it and all that is achieved is a bland-looking game with low-res textures.

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Clements
Upcoming GC Killer 7 shows how Cel-Shading should be done.

No no no. Resident Evil Zero shows how Cel-Shading should be done. And yes, I know, it isn't Cel-Shaded. That's my point. :P

[Plisco]

Originally posted by Jaz

No no no. Resident Evil Zero shows how Cel-Shading should be done. And yes, I know, it isn't Cel-Shaded. That's my point. :P
ROFL I agree, I too am against cell shading....

[Plisco]

Back to mario kart IGN has some two new shots here (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?channel_id=74&object_id=16574&adtag=network%3Dign%26site%3Dcube%26genr e%3Dracing%26object1%3D16574%26object2%3 D25047viewer%26pagetype%3Darticle&page_title=Mario+Kart%3A+Double+Dash) is the media page

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Plisco
ROFL I agree, I too am against cell shading....

/me issues Pilsco with his official Cel-Shading is Wank™ club card. :satisfied

[blizz]

Originally posted by Jaz
* Jaz issues Pilsco with his official Cel-Shading is Wank™ club card. :satisfied

/me issues Jaz with an insecure bastard card.

[Jaz]

Originally posted by blizz
* blizz issues Jaz with an insecure bastard card.

*rotflmfao*

Thanks, dude. :getlost:

[Tagrineth]

I like cel-shading, but it isn't for everything.

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Tagrineth
I like cel-shading, but it isn't for everything.

Yes, keep it for the shity games. Like Zelda. ;)

[blizz]

Originally posted by Jaz
Yes, keep it for the shity games. Like Zelda. ;)

and Jet Set Radio Future ;)

[Plisco]

here (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?subsectionid=160&articleid=65279&pagetype=2)
Courtesy of CNN:P

[mightyrocket]

Cool, looks great!

By the way, is Nintendo still creating a new Mariokart for the GBA?

[Jaz]

Originally posted by mightyrocket
By the way, is Nintendo still creating a new Mariokart for the GBA?

Doubt it very much. Sadly.

[Jaz]

Just saw the vid now - looks sweet! Can't wait for this game!

[Jaz]

Just incase you haven't yet seen it, the new Mario Kart trailer can be found here.. (http://www.nintendo.com/e32k3/movie.jsp?movie=mariokart.wmv) :happy:

[Davemc]

Can't believe they ruined it :cry:

[ra5555]

Zelda rules and Celshading rocks... end of story!!!!!! (PS: If you don't like cel shading then don't play it and above all don't say anything about it. If you hate it so much why do you care to look at the screenshot read the reviews and such?)

Most people like Zelda by the way... LOOK at the sales.

:satisfied

[jvolel]

Originally posted by Tagrineth
Well, half the point to the GameCube's design was so it would be portable (handle, anyone?).

And MANY people have two TV's in their homes, just not necessarily in the same room. And if MKGC's networking is wireless, that should be irrelevant. :)

annnd along with 2 gc's and 2 copies of mariokart? and 8 controlers?

[Vchat20]

Originally posted by ra5555
Most people like Zelda by the way... LOOK at the sales.

yes. gotta agree. never liked those kinda games myself, but I like Zelda very much.

[Jaz]

Originally posted by ra5555
Most people like Zelda by the way... LOOK at the sales.

:satisfied

You realise this thread is about Mario Kart, right? ;)

[Tagrineth]

Originally posted by dayve
Can't believe they ruined it :cry:

...uh... ruined what? I don't see anything getting ruined.

[DiaBlo6662]

yeha! now mario kart looks interesting :D (although i was annoyed that it looked to damn kiddie, but now i`m just excited..) ..i need to get my GC back. i borrow it to a friend cuz he wanted to play ethernal darkness but for me it just suck.. (compared to RE series) :getlost:

can`t wait for it. hehe if maybe would have netplay cap i would teach jaz some old tricks from mk64 mwahhaha :happy:

[Jaz]

Originally posted by DiaBlo6662
if maybe would have netplay cap i would teach jaz some old tricks from mk64 mwahhaha

LMAO. That's hilarious. :satisfied

[Cybercat]

Super Mario Kart started the franchise from humble beginnings. It was kind of a sleeper hit, and the reason I say that is that while it wasn't very polished compared to games like Super Mario World, it still spawned multiple sequels.

I am pretty much unchallenged by anyone I know although I'm the only person I know personally who likes it nearly as much as I do. I'd say my favorite entries would be Mario Kart: Super Circuit and second on the list would be Mario Kart 64. I think the GBA one was just glorious with extremely polished gameplay and presentation, and tons of replay value. But that's just a nice overhaul of an already good franchise. This new GCN sequel, however, is by far the most disappointing entry I've seen. It should be called Nintendo Wacky Racers. I don't know about any of you, but I fell in love with the franchise because of the gameplay, but this two-seater crap is going to really hamper the gameplay no matter how you look at it. It will be frustrating to drive while having another character throwing around items, maybe even obstructing the view. And likewise, throwing around items with aim will be difficult when your driver is swinging around sharp turns, jumping ramps or road-bumps, and avoiding other "karts" (if you can call them that now) and swirving everywhere, but that's only if the driver's any good. :D

I would have liked it if the characters were riding their own separate karts and if they did some major lightening up on the frilly vehicle designs. They called the first games "Mario Kart" because of the fact that they're driving go-carts. In the words of whoever invented this phrase: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Oh, and where did all this talk about cel-shading come from? This game isn't cel-shaded anywhere... The only reference I can think of is that Nintendo took a simularly HUGE risk with cel-shading Zelda like they are doing with changing the trademark gameplay of the MK game dynasty. But the GCN-MK-change is different, as it's stupid no matter how you look at it. The only real redeeming quality about this game is the 8 player LAN and even that ain't all it's cracked up to be as earlier posts point out. I wouldn't mind the change in gameplay or even if they decided to change the go-carts into filing cabinets as long as Nintendo passed it on as a different game altogether insteading of tarnishing the name of Mario Kart *holds head up proudly like the noble and loyal Mario Kart fan that he is*

(Oh, and Yoshi needs to have his own kart. Yoshi rocks the track's friggin ass off, man. He's WAY too cool to have the pink what's-her-garden-hose-face's name riding on his back. That's for another type of kart (with a backseat and shock absorbers) and for later on, hehehe... :cool: Hey, Yoshi's got a girl too people! Don't believe me? Why do you think they made a tennis court in Mario Tennis 64 featuring them two? I choose Yoshi for every Nintendo-character-franchised games, including Super Smash Bros., Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart (obviously), Mario Party, etc.)

[jvolel]

I haven't seen any pics of the battle mode... you know the everyone gets placed in an arena with 3 ballons and everyone has to pop each others ballons.

[Tagrineth]

It will be frustrating to drive while having another character throwing around items, maybe even obstructing the view. And likewise, throwing around items with aim will be difficult when your driver is swinging around sharp turns, jumping ramps or road-bumps, and avoiding other "karts" (if you can call them that now) and swirving everywhere, but that's only if the driver's any good.

I think you misunderstood.

The two characters thing doesn't mean you'll have two PEOPLE managing the kart.

One player still controls both characters.

The purpose of the two-character deal is to make the game more tactical. Two characters = much more weight, which is why the change off "Karts" and into "Cars"... and the two characters can hold separate items.


Basically Nintendo's trying this generation to revamp all its franchises, to prevent them from becoming stale. Frankly, if they hadn't made Double Dash!! as it is, they would've made Mario Kart 64 2... and it would've been the same game with new track designs. Granted it can still be fun, but veterans will find it *far* too easy, rip through it, and end up disappointed... which is exactly what Nintendo is trying to avoid.


Oh, and by the way - the pink thing whose name everyone has mysteriously forgotten is Birdo. :flowers:

[Cybercat]

Originally posted by Tagrineth
Basically Nintendo's trying this generation to revamp all its franchises, to prevent them from becoming stale. Frankly, if they hadn't made Double Dash!! as it is, they would've made Mario Kart 64 2... and it would've been the same game with new track designs. Granted it can still be fun, but veterans will find it *far* too easy, rip through it, and end up disappointed... which is exactly what Nintendo is trying to avoid.

Woa, that's assuming much. The N64 is out of the picture and will be for the rest of time, no games will be coming out for it. You wouldn't call a GameCube game anything with a '64' in it, or if their entire goal was to port gameplay and graphics with new tracks, they'd call it something like Mario Kart 64 Plus as it's not nearly enough to be a sequel. The N64 version had some pretty dumbass AI. You could hold a banana, turtle shell, false item box, etc. behind your back and let the computer players ram into them on their own. No need to place them anywhere or lauch them off. It'd be pretty easy to improve on that and make the game last longer and be challenging the entire time.

About the two-character thing: I guess I was only thinking of multiplayer as the single player would probably control much like the originals.

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Cybercat
Woa, that's assuming much. The N64 is out of the picture and will be for the rest of time, no games will be coming out for it. You wouldn't call a GameCube game anything with a '64' in it, or if their entire goal was to port gameplay and graphics with new tracks, they'd call it something like Mario Kart 64 Plus as it's not nearly enough to be a sequel.

i think she didnt mean that they should call it mario kart 64 2 ... more that they would create a sequel to mario kart 64 which means beefed up gfx and a few new tracks, etc. or in other words a ripoff of the old game. therefore mario kart 64 "2" so to speak. as far as im concerned double dash looks like it has some fresh ideas and theres nothing wrong with that. :)

[Davemc]

Cyberman has summed up my view, though most of his points I have already posted.

I'm immortal at MK64. Unless you play me at battle, then I'm useless.

[Cybercat]

Transitions of emotion after last post: :blink: :puke: :angry: :ranting: Ahhh!!! dayve, you called me CyberMAN!!! You will pay for your misuse of my beautiful and flawlessly crafted user name!!! It's Cybercat!!! As in a cybernetic feline, ruler of the nocturnal world of night, slayer of prey, lord of belching, king of laziness, unsurpassed achiever of making cats look cool, fighter against the stereotypical understatements of cats and the assumption that they meow just to sing!!! Oh, and long whiskers are hip these days. :satisfied Humans are so much more inferior! The only reason cats don't rule the world is because you happen to supply sufficient food (but no tuna!!) and are physically bigger than us (except Siberian Tigers, as you don't see man fighting them bare handed). I'll buy a GameCube just to get this "Double Dash" game people speak of, treat it with the same skill I institute towards Mario Kart games, and personally produce the first netplay networking through computers just to duel you with a race to end races! I won't even use red shells! You'll be sorry you obtained the characteristic of reading the first five letters of people's user names! Muhahahaha!!! Are you up for it, daybe?? (see how I spelled your user name wrong?? Hahahaha!)

[Davemc]

Sorry mate, I was half asleep at the time.

[Cybercat]

Yeah it's cool. But I still want to challenge you someday, somehow... I NEED a worthy opponent.

[Jaz]

Originally posted by dayve
I'm immortal at MK64.

Oh dude, I am so gonna kick your ass if Double Dash goes online. :satisfied

[Tagrineth]

Originally posted by Jaz
Oh dude, I am so gonna kick your ass if Double Dash goes online. :satisfied

Well, it supports network.

And two years ago, Nintendo actually licensed GameSpy's technology *COUGH*TUNNELSOFTWARE*COUGH*.

[Davemc]

Bring it on!! :D :happy:

[Cybercat]

Pssh, it's amazing how little you think you know. Don't you know that you never underestimate your opponent? You've never seen me play, so all you're allowed to assume with an hint of accuracy is that I'll be challenging. Not that I'll get my ass kicked. Besides, I am also undefeated at Mario Kart just as you say you are. I am also undefeated at Mario Tennis. I'm brutal with both Nintendo-character sports games. I have to lighten up on people because if I don't, they'll feel too humiliated to play against me ever again. It happens all the time: "Dude you suck! How come you gotta be so mean! I'm a begginer so give me a break! Forget you man, I'm not gonna play this stupid thing." People, sadly enough, put down the game itself because they don't want to admit that what beat them was skill and not a game's flaws (and neither Mario Kart or Mario Tennis have any flaws as you will, I'm sure, agree). I am a very competitive person. I take it very seriously. If I find any flaw in my skill, I'll work on it day in and day out till I have it ironed out to perfection then I'll go over all my other skills to make sure I don't slacken up on any of them while I was improving on the weakness. Then I'll go over them all at once so the weakness that has been newly ironed out to perfection goes through in harmony with all my other strengths so the rhythm is natural. I'm sure you're like that too, or else you wouldn't be so confident. I like confident people because I know they have a reason for being that confident and so that means I'll have a good challenge. Underestimate me and I'll take it that much more seriously.

[DiaBlo6662]

cyberCAT lets play mk64 on kaillera till we wait for MKDD :)
your so good speaking lets see how good at driving..


btw.. you guys are sure about online gameplay? i know the 2 GC`s + 2 tv`s + 2 mkDD discs + 8 GC pads + 8 *HIGHSCHOOLSTUDINGEXCUSE* friends .. that sound scary for me.. too many peeps together.. (maybe if the party is 4f-4m hehe :happy: ) i`d better like the online gameplay.. just clarify me on that..

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Cybercat
Pssh, it's amazing how little you think you know. Don't you know that you never underestimate your opponent? You've never seen me play, so all you're allowed to assume with an hint of accuracy is that I'll be challenging. Not that I'll get my ass kicked. Besides, I am also undefeated at Mario Kart just as you say you are. I am also undefeated at Mario Tennis. I'm brutal with both Nintendo-character sports games. I have to lighten up on people because if I don't, they'll feel too humiliated to play against me ever again. It happens all the time: "Dude you suck! How come you gotta be so mean! I'm a begginer so give me a break! Forget you man, I'm not gonna play this stupid thing." People, sadly enough, put down the game itself because they don't want to admit that what beat them was skill and not a game's flaws (and neither Mario Kart or Mario Tennis have any flaws as you will, I'm sure, agree). I am a very competitive person. I take it very seriously. If I find any flaw in my skill, I'll work on it day in and day out till I have it ironed out to perfection then I'll go over all my other skills to make sure I don't slacken up on any of them while I was improving on the weakness. Then I'll go over them all at once so the weakness that has been newly ironed out to perfection goes through in harmony with all my other strengths so the rhythm is natural. I'm sure you're like that too, or else you wouldn't be so confident. I like confident people because I know they have a reason for being that confident and so that means I'll have a good challenge. Underestimate me and I'll take it that much more seriously.

i never thought of mario kart as a game about life and death ..

[Jaz]

Originally posted by 2fast4u
i never thought of mario kart as a game about life and death ..

Funny I was thinking the same thing whilst reading his post. :plain:

[Cybercat]

Life and death? No it's all about pride and shame. Who goes home with glory and who goes home with humiliation? That's what it's about. Where'd you get life and death from? I don't remember ever saying anything about it being a matter of life and death...

If you're talking about my ridiculous commitment well lets just say I have no other life. Call it sad if you will but I love videogames and unfortunately I'm at an age where you don't have any other life to go to. Well, there's always friends, but they're videogamatics just like me. :D

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Cybercat
If you're talking about my ridiculous commitment

thats it, also an impressive rant on the issue :plain:

[Plisco]

Moving on....
Another video of MK: DD now the complete mushroom city circuit.
here (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/downloads/default.asp?subsectionid=196&articleid=65389&pagetype=2)