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u guys think vista will make the difference?

Doomulation

Doomulation

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Sercio said:
Xp does run on it.... my mother does have no problem to wait 2 min for the internet explorer ;)
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Now that is what I was afraid of.
Indeed, I've seen pretty weak computers run XP.
Nevertheless, this might be the result as well if a weak computer tries to run Vista. It's just a small step up from XP - that's all.
 
Flash

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Doomulation said:
I'm sure there are ways to bypass that if one just looked. And memory isn't expensive. But that 256 MB machine kinda tells me that it isn't good enough to run XP/Vista anyway.
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256M is enough for office/internet/movies with 98SE/2K/XP/Linux/MacOS 10.3.x etc. 512M for Vista is just like 16M for Win98 - it will boot but try to run well... Quake 3, and you'll get a lot of swapping. And if you disable Aero it will make things work faster but it won't free that much RAM.
 
chiklit

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Vista runs just fine with Aero on my laptop with 512mb memory, Athlon 64 3400+, and ATi Radeon Xpress 200M gpu.
 
Doomulation

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Flash said:
256M is enough for office/internet/movies with 98SE/2K/XP/Linux/MacOS 10.3.x etc. 512M for Vista is just like 16M for Win98 - it will boot but try to run well... Quake 3, and you'll get a lot of swapping. And if you disable Aero it will make things work faster but it won't free that much RAM.
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Same as XP then. It will also keep swapping around memory if you have 256 MB since it likes to consume a lot of that itself.
 
Doomulation

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No, still running XP. Compability isssues are the main problem. Dunno if they've fixed the UAC problems yet.
And, of course, there's the whole anti-piracy issues to be sorted out before running Vista for real.
 
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You guys should try vista before bashing it. I mean I still use XP as well but it's not as bad as you make it out to be. For example I have personally installed it on a 1Ghz machine with 256MB of ram and it works. It's not even all that bad. Vista is built to scale itself to your system. In otherwords you can stick 4GB of ram in it and you might see it use 2GB worth of ram.

It makes use of it if it's not in use. This isn't a bad thing if done right. When you load up a game or something else it will free up ram if needed by that app or game. Now I have tested this and it does seem to do it. Does it do it all the time? Are there slow memory leaks? I'm not really sure. I haven't played with it too much. The concept is good though.

Don't assume that since it's using 400MB of your 512MB that a game won't work because it needs 256MB. It's got some pretty decent memory management and rather then just letting ram sit unused it finds a use for it. Be it indexing the system or something else if it can use it and you don't need it, it uses it.

Over all games I've played on vista and on XP seem to run about the same. It's not as slow or clunky as people who haven't tried it think. The specs are high to run it with all the fancy effects but the fancy effects are extra, there's nothing that says you have to use them, and in fact it won't even let you turn them on if your system isn't good enough.
 
Gladiac0190

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Coco said:
You guys should try vista before bashing it. I mean I still use XP as well but it's not as bad as you make it out to be. For example I have personally installed it on a 1Ghz machine with 256MB of ram and it works. It's not even all that bad. Vista is built to scale itself to your system. In otherwords you can stick 4GB of ram in it and you might see it use 2GB worth of ram.

It makes use of it if it's not in use. This isn't a bad thing if done right. When you load up a game or something else it will free up ram if needed by that app or game. Now I have tested this and it does seem to do it. Does it do it all the time? Are there slow memory leaks? I'm not really sure. I haven't played with it too much. The concept is good though.

Don't assume that since it's using 400MB of your 512MB that a game won't work because it needs 256MB. It's got some pretty decent memory management and rather then just letting ram sit unused it finds a use for it. Be it indexing the system or something else if it can use it and you don't need it, it uses it.

Over all games I've played on vista and on XP seem to run about the same. It's not as slow or clunky as people who haven't tried it think. The specs are high to run it with all the fancy effects but the fancy effects are extra, there's nothing that says you have to use them, and in fact it won't even let you turn them on if your system isn't good enough.
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lol, I should try before bashing it? I use it at work since the rtm released to msdn already and experienced some problems. Plus... I am a Linux guy so I normally don't care about windows by nature. :)

I didn't want to flame or smth I just wanted to point out what I think about vista (what the thread is called)

greets
 
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Gladiac0190 said:
lol, I should try before bashing it? I use it at work since the rtm released to msdn already and experienced some problems. Plus... I am a Linux guy so I normally don't care about windows by nature. :)
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And I would think that that explains a lot as to why you don't like Vista that very much. Again, Vista is buggy because it's new and it's a Microsoft product. Compatibility problems and bugs are to be expected for some yet. Although when I last used Vista, it seemed less buggy than XP.
 
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gsboi15

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perhaps to get back on topic...*ahem*

perhaps the real question is: what is the potential for using Dx10 and nvidia's new 8x series gpus for dolphin? especially in combination with the fact that Core 2 Duo = good overclockin'.
 
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V99

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I'm using Vista, Dolphin works just fine. But exactly as it does on XP. I'm still getting 1.18FPS for Twilight Princess.
 
peroikos

peroikos

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I'm running Vista, but I can't get Dolphin going if I have my game pad plugged in. I open the iso, but before anything gets started, my Visual Studio Just-In-Time debugger pops up as Dolphin crashes. However, if I don't have my game pad plugged in, it runs just fine.

Problem is, I can't seem to figure out any way to hook it up to keyboard controls (or, for that matter, any custom controls, game pad or not), so I can't get past the "Press start to continue" screen.

Am I a just a moron and can't figure out the input plugin?
If I'm not missing anything, is there anything I can do to fix the crashes w/ the game pad?
 
Cyberman

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  1. This is an old topic, consider asking questions in a seperate topic next time
  2. Ummm actually emulators sometimes are highly dependant on what OS you use. For example PJ64 can't run under linux unless compiled for linux under linux. Vista is very different than winNT systems that current emulators run under. There are big differences between the OS's (WinNT == win2K winXP) themselves because of memory handling etc. Some things may or may not work depending on security settings for example. So it's really a Yes and No situation. It is and it isn't dependant on the OS, just depends on how portable the original code was written.
Hijacking an old topic is lazy especially one that was dead 1/2 a year ago. I think the worst necromancy I remember was reviving a 5 year dead topic. Scarey. :D

Cyb
 
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