Today is 9/11

[Doomulation]

I do not agree at all. If we lost our memory and memories, we lost ourselves. Most of the present and future is gained from the past.

There are very strong efforts for us to lost our memories. We must keep it, as far as we can. We lost our uniqueness and act as a mass if we lost our memory. Remember the past to know who is who in the present. That is what I think.

I care about 9/11 very much: as much as I care about each day in Iraq's war, Lebanon, and a sadly long etc... I care very much about this day, but it's not an special day. Sadly again, death doesn't make our days to be special... Life does :flowers:

Yes, naturally I do agree with you. It is truly a shame that that event happened at all, but if you think back at this, it makes you sad. And when you are sad you cannot function correctly. Which one is more important - to get on with your life or look back and mourn at something you cannot change?

Not being evil or anything but 9/11 is an imortant key in history since it was one of the warnings for the new world war (what I think) and again, not to be evil but I think we need a new World War 'cause kids these days don't value life as much as older people would.

That is the most ridiculous and stupid thing I have EVER heard. Remember this: WAR DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING. All it does is bring pain and suffering and to everything and everyone around it. If something needs to be done, it is NOT through war.

Wisen up a bit. You learn from your mistakes and your experiences. You learn from history. Without it, we'd be no better off today than we were September 10, 2001. I don't know about you, but I'd like to think we've improved since then, if just a little bit. Hell, we havn't been attacked since then. There is everything to learn from the past.

You are right of course...
But if we think about it, what does it help to remember this day? Do we get back those who died? Do we find comfort in it? Will it bring anything other than sadness? Will it bring satisfaction? Will it give birth to hate? Hate to those who did this terrible thing?
Sure, we could learn how and why they did it, but how does it really help us? Learning mistakes is important, I agree, but what will we gain from the rest of the whole thinking back? Will it let us get on with our lives? I would argue that there is nothing to be gained from looking back into the past. We learn a lesson after the day in the past has passed and when looking back at a sad memory it brings nothing but pain. Do you want to mourn? What good does it bring? Not to feel cold or anything, but isn't it better to forget the whole thing and pretend it never happened? In that way you wouldn't feel the sadness every time you think about it.

 

[ShizZy]

@A.I., ahhh... misinterpreted what you said

 

[A.I.]

I don't know about you, but I'd like to think we've improved since then, if just a little bit. Hell, we havn't been attacked since then. There is everything to learn from the past.

Shizzy, American citizens may have not been attacked since 9/11 but have you forgotten the 100+ Australians who died in the two Bali bombings, the
50+ British and two Australians who died in the London bombings, numerous terrorists attacks in Spain, Indonesia, the Middle East which has killed hundreds of people. Why, American soldiers in Iraq die every day from suicide bombers linked to terrroists groups.

Do you want to mourn? What good does it bring? Not to feel cold or anything, but isn't it better to forget the whole thing and pretend it never happened? In that way you wouldn't feel the sadness every time you think about it.

Yes, we shouldn't dwell on the past but we shouldn't forget either. Pretending to forget is the same as saying it NEVER happened.

 

[ShizZy]

Shizzy, American citizens may have not been attacked since 9/11 but have you forgotten the 100+ Australians who died in the two Bali bombings, the
50+ British and two Australians who died in the London bombings, numerous terrorists attacks in Spain, Indonesia, the Middle East which has killed hundreds of people. Why, American soldiers in Iraq die every day from suicide bombers linked to terrroists groups.



Yes, we shouldn't dwell on the past but we shouldn't forget either. Pretending to forget is the same as saying it NEVER happened.

I think you missed my point completely. I was implying that perhaps American defenses/intelligence (call it what you want) has hopefully improved from 9/11/01, simply because we've yet to have an attack on American soil since then. (Then again, what good is that argument when the last attack before that was in 1941) I didn't forget the thousands of other people around the world who have died since then, I just chose not to include it because it was irrelevent to my argument.

 

[BlueFalcon7]

I hate to be nit picky, but I had to get my two cents in...

Wisen up a bit. You learn from your mistakes and your experiences. You learn from history. Without it, we'd be no better off today than we were September 10, 2001. I don't know about you, but I'd like to think we've improved since then, if just a little bit. Hell, we havn't been attacked since then. There is everything to learn from the past.

I don't mean any offense, so don't take any. But thousand's of people's parents died in the World Trade Center, don't be so insensitive. If anything, I'd expect you to be more understanding.

Oh please. There isn't any religious repression from the government in America, assuming that's what you're referring to. In fact, it's very much the other way around - the United States Government considers itself obligated to stop religious/social/political repression in other countries.

I think I already feel flames coming..arty:

Thank you! I understand that most of you who have posted in this thread arent from America (in fact I think its only me and shizZy unless doom... where is doom from?) But when this happened, I was in 6th grade, and I was 11 years old. As young as I was at the time, I knew this was something serious, and that people were dying. Though I did not know anyone who died, I knew that it must have been horrible to have a friend or loved one die.

 

[A.I.]

I think you missed my point completely. I was implying that perhaps American defenses/intelligence (call it what you want) has hopefully improved from 9/11/01, simply because we've yet to have an attack on American soil since then. (Then again, what good is that argument when the last attack before that was in 1941) I didn't forget the thousands of other people around the world who have died since then, I just chose not to include it because it was irrelevent to my argument.

OK. I see your point. I thought you forgot or didn't know about the Bali bombings or was too involved in American politics to care about other countries. Sorry.

You're right, counter terroism is getting better - look how recently they foiled terrorists blowing up those planes using liquid explosives? However, airport security and defence in my country (Australia) still needs to be improved. With interstate flights we don't need to take off our shoes unless we look suspicious and they only give random tests for explosives. I even brought a drink bottle on board and although they xrayed it they didnt even ask me to drink it to prove it was safe!

It's no wonder people don't like flying in my country (What with corrupt baggage handlers putting drugs in boogie boards) with all these loopholes in the system. Australia's defence force is a joke with old aircraft literally falling to pieces. It's no wonder Australians don't feel safe anymore even though we are living in the 'lucky' country. Luck eventually runs out you know...

 

[Doomulation]

Yes, we shouldn't dwell on the past but we shouldn't forget either. Pretending to forget is the same as saying it NEVER happened.

And what good does it bring to know that it actually HAPPENED? Again, think on that. What good does it do us? Besides mourning?

unless doom... where is doom from?

Not USA, I tell you

 

[A.I.]

And what good does it bring to know that it actually HAPPENED? Again, think on that. What good does it do us? Besides mourning?

So what's the alternative? Sticking your head in the sand and pretending history never exists?

Have you ever lost a loved one? What's the point of remembering that person if it makes you sad?. It's the same thing! We remember out of RESPECT.

Why remember all the soldiers who died in the war who sacrificed their lives so you can enjoy your FREEDOM. Same thing! We remember out of RESPECT.

LEST WE FORGET!

Remember that the next time you put your rose coloured glasses on... :matrix:

 

[Doomulation]

So what's the alternative? Sticking your head in the sand and pretending history never exists?

Yes.

Have you ever lost a loved one? What's the point of remembering that person if it makes you sad?. It's the same thing! We remember out of RESPECT.

I have not, I will admit. And what good is respect?

Why remember all the soldiers who died in the war who sacrificed their lives so you can enjoy your FREEDOM. Same thing! We remember out of RESPECT.

What do we need respect for?

LEST WE FORGET!

Remember that the next time you put your rose coloured glasses on... :matrix:

I tend to see things differently from others. And as I see it, we don't need to remember the past. What GOOD does respect of the past do us? Can we do anything with it?

 

[A.I.]

Yes, we are very different people.

I rest my case...:satisfied

 

[ShadowDamien]

Of course I care. 9/11's anniversary marks the day we lost our innocence and our freedom.QUOTE]

Whoa whoa whoa. LOST our innocence and freedom? Since when did we gain innocence and freedom? We are innocent of nothing and prisoners of our own fears, which is what makes the terrorists win, every single time.

RIP

 

[A.I.]

Of course I care. 9/11's anniversary marks the day we lost our innocence and our freedom.QUOTE]

Whoa whoa whoa. LOST our innocence and freedom? Since when did we gain innocence and freedom? We are innocent of nothing and prisoners of our own fears, which is what makes the terrorists win, every single time.

RIP

Canadanians and Australians think alike! We know what irony is!

 

[SlimickGamer]

Lol I'm Canadian