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Pitiful framerate in Super Smash Bros. Melee

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Warkirby

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I'm trying to play SSBM but I get an average framerate of less than 1 with 4 fps being the absolute highest.

And that's just the menus. I haven't even made it to a battle yet.

I saw another topic on this page claiming to get 30fps in SSBM so it must be supported by dolphin.

My PC specs are surely far in excess of what is required, so what is the problem?

My spec:

2.01 GHZ Dual Core Athlon 64 X2
Radeon X1800XT 256Mb video ram.
1Gb DDR SDRAM

I'm using Dolphin 1.03
 
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Warkirby

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Dynarec sorta worked, but the sound is garbled and the game crashes upon selecting any option in the menu.

I managed to get into battle, but it's jerky as hell, the sound doesn't work and many textures are missing. Is there any solution to this?

Warkirby
 
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Warkirby

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Cobrax1884 said:
I don't think that this will work but try changing the language to japaneese
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I can't. It's a PAL copy. I tried changing it to French though, but no help at all.

WarKirby
 
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Warkirby

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It says modern pc's are too slow with the techniques they use, so are the Dolphin team going to be changing to more effective techniques?

Is this going to be fixed anytime soon, or should I go buy a gamecube?

WarKirby
 
Allnatural

Allnatural

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Moderator
Warkirby said:
It says modern pc's are too slow with the techniques they use, so are the Dolphin team going to be changing to more effective techniques?

Is this going to be fixed anytime soon, or should I go buy a gamecube?
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"Techniques we use" doesn't mean that those techniques are wrong.

Even if they promised a perfect emulator tomorrow, we'd still tell you to buy a Gamecube.
 
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Warkirby

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My PC runs 'Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion' at 1280x1024 with all graphics settings maxed out at a steady 20-30 fps.

I have seen nothing on the gamecube that comes close to Oblivion's graphical intensity. Certainly not Smash Bros.

How can it possibly not mean that their techniques are flawed

WarKirby
 
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Trotterwatch

Active member
Wakirby, you are talking about totally different things. That game was designed for the PC platform, or at least optimised for it.

Dolphin is emulating a PPC style processor on an X86 one, and contrary to what you may be inclined to believe, it's a damn intensive process to only emulate the CPU, then you've got to emulate the graphics too.

The techniques probably aren't 100% perfect, but even if they were, it'd still be slow I would wager.

Just buy the machine, emulation isn't meant as a means to avoid actually paying for something, particularly if you expect near perfect speeds for current/next gen machines. Just ain't gonna happen just yet. Maybe in another generation or two.

I'm no authority on this subject though.... so feel free to correct me anyone.
 
Doomulation

Doomulation

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Just to sum it up, the general rule is: Emulation is not PC Games. Even if they graphics are "infeior," emulators has lots and lots to do to run a single game as compared to a PC Game. Take a look at a source. And btw, it isn't the gfx that is making it slow - it is the emulation - to provide a virtual machine for the game to run on. And also to convert instructions to PC instructions.
 
Dude21

Dude21

Emulation Fan
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Warkirby said:
Dynarec sorta worked, but the sound is garbled and the game crashes upon selecting any option in the menu.

I managed to get into battle, but it's jerky as hell, the sound doesn't work and many textures are missing. Is there any solution to this?

Warkirby
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For the sound try configuring it to Anti-gap. It fixed the Audio for me:bouncy:
 
Dude21

Dude21

Emulation Fan
Warkirby said:
I'm trying to play SSBM but I get an average framerate of less than 1 with 4 fps being the absolute highest.

And that's just the menus. I haven't even made it to a battle yet.

I saw another topic on this page claiming to get 30fps in SSBM so it must be supported by dolphin.

My PC specs are surely far in excess of what is required, so what is the problem?

My spec:

2.01 GHZ Dual Core Athlon 64 X2
Radeon X1800XT 256Mb video ram.
1Gb DDR SDRAM

I'm using Dolphin 1.03
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I reasently found out that wireframe kinda works. For me it sped the menu up to full speed but ingame only a bit faster.
 
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[SS] Starscream

Banned
Why are you guys trying to use an emulator that does not work yet?

Trying to turn off and on settings just to get a 1-2 fps increase is nuts. I want to play gamecube games on my pc just as badly as anyone here, but it's just not possible yet. Put your Dolphin away till you're able to actually play the thing.

It's like trying to drive a car with no wheels and no gas.

I get great fps when i do not use the Dolphin emulator at all.
 
ShizZy

ShizZy

Emulator Developer
[SS] Starscream said:
Why are you guys trying to use an emulator that does not work yet?

Trying to turn off and on settings just to get a 1-2 fps increase is nuts. I want to play gamecube games on my pc just as badly as anyone here, but it's just not possible yet. Put your Dolphin away till you're able to actually play the thing.

It's like trying to drive a car with no wheels and no gas.

I get great fps when i do not use the Dolphin emulator at all.
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Because many of us have a genuine interest in emulation as a whole, not just being able to play games.
 
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xtra krazzy

Dolphin Developer
Especially fanboys and that kind of people...

Here's a good one: Most of the people who are in these forums(including me)(and all of the developers I presume) own an NGC.

Even though I have a gamecube, I still like to hear about next(it's not next anymore)gen emulation and see the progress. It's not that I'm here for gaming, nor pirated gaming(just modchip and illegally obtain the ROMs, I don't care). Plus, the NGC is really cheap now, in comparison to other next-gen consoles like the Wii and the PS3.

kthxbai
 
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