Microsoft eyeing Nintendo?

[Trotterwatch]

Ah, like Nintendo were convicted of mass price fixing not so long ago... so you're saying Microsoft would do the same? And your point is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2375967.stm

And yes Microsoft love to kill off franchises, remember what happened when they purchased RARE and told them in no circumstances to release or make another Conkers game... hang on a sec.

We need proper arguements and not the same hackneyed diatribe that is often espoused on these type of discussions.

 

[mezkal]

Here Here. It would be a wonderful thing if we could all stick to the facts, rather than wave flags about. I'm all for originality, but whatever happens big business will win in the end. This is consumer electronics we're talking about after all. Furthermore, MS plans to swamp the market with a loungeroom/set-top PC. Anyone not getting this by now is either ignorant or blind. Sony plans the same. Nintendo just don't have the infrastructure (delivery, marketing, global franchises) to achieve that future. The DS is a nice idea but the day of the Game Boy is done. Shigeryu's theories that games should get simpler just won't fly in an age when people are thrilled about chatting and rolling virtual dice in 3D. MS and Sony know this. So does Nintendo. I think N would rather see Sony suffer than MS. At least then they have some potential to bring thier better recieved franchises to a potentially broader market. Either that or they feel that Sony will just absorb them using whatever resources Nintendo has to offer AS RESOURCES and not as fuller, more well rounded products. On the other hand Sony has more consumerist tricks ahead with PS3 supporting Blu-Ray DVD. Methinks Sony is beginning to wonder if they can keep the market share they have so comfortably rested in for the last 5 years.

 

[mezkal]

hmm... soon or later, one of them have to disappear, there is no futur for a triumvirat, what's happened with intel/amd/cyrix is a good example...

but if you think it will not change anything you're wrong, M$ has based his strategy to hardware performance, and nintendo has based his strategy to price/innovation... these strategy are imcompatible...

and "same games" are games developped on both console, but it's not the case for ALL games... i'm not sure that zelda, mario, donkey kong, etc... will survive with M$

M$ just want to BUY a rival, to be sure to stay in the race... it's a shame, it's to the people/customers to decide that... not M$...

Actually I really will be damn sad to see Nintendo go. Here in Australia we've had three major political parties at play for over 40 years - Labor (left), Liberal (right) and the Democrats (smack dab in the middle). The Democrats have always held the balance of power up until the last election. Their motto was "keep the bastards honest". Recent political upheavals have let them lose the one seat that kept them holding the balance of power in the senate. Much like Nintendo in the games industry (not quite sure which MS or Sony are, left or right - both consumerist assholes really) always innovating where the other two (and SEGA in previous years) decided to be more blatantly corporate. Nintendo, in effect, kept the other two(or three) "bastards honest". Miyamoto kept games cute and well...gamey. Mario isn't really violent. The Zelda series is ageless (excepting Windwanker - so sue me I hated it) and Metroid (until Prime's 3D-a-thon) was escapist enough not to be truely violent. Now GC has Res Evil 4 EXCLUSIVELY. I don't see that as a good thing at all. I see it as last ditch effort for Nintendo to get out while the getting's good, too push the sales of a dying console. Where's the cuteness? Where's the honesty?

Like most things, it's gone in the corporate "save yourselves the ship is sinking" line of reasoning. I hate too say it, but I think gaming's age of innocence may well be truely coming to an end.

 

[Kiantsu]

i have seen this notice in nintendo forums, in spanish. what happened is that in the interview to Bill Gate$ he said that if nintendo's bigger accionist phoned him, he'll answer the phone. The two parts said that it was a confusion.

 

[Trotterwatch]

Generally if the phone rings you'll answer it Kinda the whole point of it.

 

[chng.bat]

I was a big Sega fan boy (still am) and i was gutted when Sega packed in the console buisness.

Im also abig Nintendo fan boy and if they stop consoles, i dont know what i'll do really.

 

[Trotterwatch]

I would wager, you'd then buy Sony/Microsoft or another console manufacturer. Loyalties are made to be broken

 

[chng.bat]

I would wager, you'd then buy Sony/Microsoft or another console manufacturer. Loyalties are made to be broken

Probably, But then buy mainly Nintendo and Sega Games

 

[Square]

You'd think of Nintendo wasreally engaged in the concept of selling out to Microsoft then they wouldn't be in damn denial of it. Plus Yamauchi-sama is a billionare I'm pretty sure Nintendo must have something in the bank. If Nintendo were really thinking of selling out and Microsoft was that damn keen to take them up on the idea then Nintendo would just come out with it. It's not like they'd have much to lose as soon as they would be backed up by one of the most successful companies to date.

 

[AlphaWolf]

Theres not much point in arguing about it honestly. You have no control over what happens, the powers that be in this area are the big corporate execs, and whether you have noticed it or not, neither the microsoft or nintendo execs give a damn about what you think

So far as innovation is concerned, as long as a market exists in this area, innovation will continue. Most technology related industries tend to run in a duopoly. In other words, there are usually two big ones and the rest stay far behind; theres only room for third place for so long. Sony and Microsoft are showing Nintendo that theres not as much room for the "Scooty Puff Junior" games as there used to be due to new gaming innovations, and Nintendo doesn't seem to get this, which is why they are in third place and dropping. History would tell us that Nintendo are the ones who aren't being innovative.

 

[Square]

It could be possibly propaganda. You shouldn't listen to everything you hear on the TV or read in a magazine, every single gaming company wants to tell you the essential buyer how much they're dominating the console market and quite frankly anybody stupid enough to believe them is almost resorting to near fanboyism.
As you said AlphaWolf there's no point to argueing over this as nobody can come to a straight decision :|