Linux using Vmware. Impressive
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Falcon4ever
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'fuck you microsoft', if you weren't such a loser, you would do a real linux install 
not some "oh i'm affraid that i will screw my system up so i will just use this virtual machine software ohh ohh " =]
not some "oh i'm affraid that i will screw my system up so i will just use this virtual machine software ohh ohh " =]
Quvack
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Blacklord said:Actually i only emulate Linux is becouse it is one one of the most unsupported systems
Linux one of the most unsupported systems? pfft lol there's a huge userbase (not compared to windows but its still somewhat large), and heaps of websites/forums where you can find support for all sorts of problems.
Under VMWare your limited quite a lot in terms of performance and seeing what Linux/the distro is actually capable of.
And the 'fuck microsoft' comment is just childish. Using Linux, under VMWare, under Windows doesnt even get semi-close to that, your still using Windows.
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Blacklord
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U are one hard headed bunch (esspecially ScottJC but lets no bring that up). First i am emulating Linux to have some fun and becouse i am such a Microsoft fanboy and i hate that. And the games thing: It ain't Microsoft that makes the games dammit! If there weren't microsoft, Mac and Linux would get all the attention, couse game companys don't give a shit who is the best OS they make games for the OS with the most market so "Fuck Microsoft" is what every single Mac user is saying .
.Trotterwatch
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Yes.
I've tried on several occasions to switch completely to a *NIX based system. (Redhat, Fedora, Mandrake, GenToo, Ubunta, SUSE, even FreeBSD). I've tried others as well, Slackware long ago and Knoppix just recently (actually pretty cool). I also come from a background with using Solaris on Sparc workstations and servers at my last job with a commercial web host/portal company.
First let me say that many others who are much more into Linux the I can probably tell you the great advantages of one distro over another. I myself only noticed that some update faster then others. Which that in itself is either a good or bad thing depending on your point of view.
I've personally only have a few gripes on any of those platforms over Windows and it's all due to being a gamer at heart mainly.
Games. Since Windows is the main platform of most end users, most games are specifically written for DirectX. Now that's not to say you can't run many of those games under Wine or Transgaming's WineX port, but that has it's own issues too. And there are many with ports available for Linux, but those are pretty slim and that again relates back to Windows being "in control" of the market. I hope that changes. Imagine not having a choice where you get your Internet from or your TV signal. Same thing with the OS.
Emulation. Most are available and run great, many others I've had issue with, namely N64 emulation on Linux. I must also stress I had never bothered enough to really sort out my issues I had though. Most I tried worked great and were very easy to install and setup.
Hardware, although that in itself is WAY better. I just wish the wireless stuff, USB items, and such would catch up a bit better. If you use off brand items, many times there may not be a decent driver available in my findings. And again this may have changed in the last 6 to 8 months since I last tried it on my laptop. Hardware itself though even has issues with Windows in some cases. For instance, my V2, V3, and V5 card, which used to work great in Windows 2000 and lower, have compatibility issues in Win XP. Now you MS fans are saying "well that hardware is obsolete so why bother", Yet we all know one of the greatest N64 GPU plugins to date is Glide64. Without a good VooDoo card you can't do a lot of what it can really do. And I'll say this, every *NIX box I built has used those cards without failure.
Other then that be aware that Linux and BSD Unix in any form is quite a stable platform. All the great free program and ability to essentially design how your system looks and feels is awesome. Same cannot be said for Windows as that ability must be done with 3rd party applications. And I'll give in since the release of Win XP (which FYI is my current main OS) has become much more stable, but at what price?
Many of you may be aware that MS only allows your Win XP to be activated so many time per year and per machine, but did you know some version cannot be moved to a new machine if you choose? or, That MS will only allow so many lifetime activations altogether? so you might say well I just get a "crack" and get by that, but for how long or until when the next update comes out that patches that, right?
All in all both have their ups and downs. To each their own and only a fool would condemn one over the other, as it's all about what you want to do and how you prefer to get it done.
And one last note, not everything under *NIX requires the end user to know how to compile from source. Many programs come precompiled. Then main issue there is whether your distro itself has a binary already available, most do, or have a super easy install/upgrade path.
First let me say that many others who are much more into Linux the I can probably tell you the great advantages of one distro over another. I myself only noticed that some update faster then others. Which that in itself is either a good or bad thing depending on your point of view.
I've personally only have a few gripes on any of those platforms over Windows and it's all due to being a gamer at heart mainly.
Games. Since Windows is the main platform of most end users, most games are specifically written for DirectX. Now that's not to say you can't run many of those games under Wine or Transgaming's WineX port, but that has it's own issues too. And there are many with ports available for Linux, but those are pretty slim and that again relates back to Windows being "in control" of the market. I hope that changes. Imagine not having a choice where you get your Internet from or your TV signal. Same thing with the OS.
Emulation. Most are available and run great, many others I've had issue with, namely N64 emulation on Linux. I must also stress I had never bothered enough to really sort out my issues I had though. Most I tried worked great and were very easy to install and setup.
Hardware, although that in itself is WAY better. I just wish the wireless stuff, USB items, and such would catch up a bit better. If you use off brand items, many times there may not be a decent driver available in my findings. And again this may have changed in the last 6 to 8 months since I last tried it on my laptop. Hardware itself though even has issues with Windows in some cases. For instance, my V2, V3, and V5 card, which used to work great in Windows 2000 and lower, have compatibility issues in Win XP. Now you MS fans are saying "well that hardware is obsolete so why bother", Yet we all know one of the greatest N64 GPU plugins to date is Glide64. Without a good VooDoo card you can't do a lot of what it can really do. And I'll say this, every *NIX box I built has used those cards without failure.
Other then that be aware that Linux and BSD Unix in any form is quite a stable platform. All the great free program and ability to essentially design how your system looks and feels is awesome. Same cannot be said for Windows as that ability must be done with 3rd party applications. And I'll give in since the release of Win XP (which FYI is my current main OS) has become much more stable, but at what price?
Many of you may be aware that MS only allows your Win XP to be activated so many time per year and per machine, but did you know some version cannot be moved to a new machine if you choose? or, That MS will only allow so many lifetime activations altogether? so you might say well I just get a "crack" and get by that, but for how long or until when the next update comes out that patches that, right?
All in all both have their ups and downs. To each their own and only a fool would condemn one over the other, as it's all about what you want to do and how you prefer to get it done.
And one last note, not everything under *NIX requires the end user to know how to compile from source. Many programs come precompiled. Then main issue there is whether your distro itself has a binary already available, most do, or have a super easy install/upgrade path.
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Blacklord
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Yet i have stubbled over a incredibly anoying problem: How the f*** do u install .rpms or .tar.gz? I'll be dammed if i didn't search every single forum and webpage . I know it's something with terminal but i hate text only prog. and don't know shit what to do in terminal
. I know it's something with terminal but i hate text only prog. and don't know shit what to do in terminal rpm --help
I think it was rpm -i packagename.rpm (don't hold me to it). also most distros for those whom dislike the command line (which I suggest you get used to as it's VERY powerful) have a GUI package manager of some sort.
tar --help
tar zxvf packagename.tgz
Most likely has a GUI package manager as well in most distros, but I must say I never bothered to look.
Just for the record, you will be missing out a little due to running it in VMWare. I would highly suggest a dual boot or separate system to really get a feel of it all.
And above where I said it's not really a "gaming platform" per say, those games the are native, and some that run via emulation, are really impressive compared to their Windows counterparts. I mean maybe it's just me, but UT and other FPS games always seem "brighter" or stand out more somehow?
I think it was rpm -i packagename.rpm (don't hold me to it). also most distros for those whom dislike the command line (which I suggest you get used to as it's VERY powerful) have a GUI package manager of some sort.
tar --help
tar zxvf packagename.tgz
Most likely has a GUI package manager as well in most distros, but I must say I never bothered to look.
Just for the record, you will be missing out a little due to running it in VMWare. I would highly suggest a dual boot or separate system to really get a feel of it all.
And above where I said it's not really a "gaming platform" per say, those games the are native, and some that run via emulation, are really impressive compared to their Windows counterparts. I mean maybe it's just me, but UT and other FPS games always seem "brighter" or stand out more somehow?
