Language file to be translated for the 1964.099
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PabloJM
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Spanish translation
I don't think there is a need for a second Spanish translation (I mean, european and latam). Neoak is right when he suggests doing a "neutral" version, so every spanish-speaking person can understand it the same way. Instead of discussing which is the best translation, we should make only one with a mix of the proposed ones, and any incoming suggestions.
I dunno what ferbe means by "improved translation". If ferbe had more experience translating books, he'd know that not every term or expression can be "directly translated". Sometimes you need to add a slight variation to some words, phrases or sentences to preserve its meaning/sense, e.g. when you deal with "idioms". Just try to translate a song or a poem with rhymes and you should understand what i'm talking about.
That way i suggested "Trucos" for "Cheat Codes" instead of "Códigos de trampa", which is smaller, easier to understand and may be helpful for emu authors (as Neto said when he talked about the needing of abbreviations). That's not my idea, it was adopted previously in some Spanish translations of MAME, and nobody complains about it (well, they translate "cheats", not "cheat codes", but they "mean" the same).
What's wrong with "Remover"????? It's OK, leave it.
Well, "Proceso" is not the correct translation of "Thread", but I don't think it's Neoak's fault, there are lots of books translated from english to spanish that have this error as well.
And thanks to NeTo and Jonpagecr for considering my version in your translations. If I have enough time, i'm gonna mix all versions and post it so we can approach to a final release. As I said before, we should team up and make only one version, which we all consider it's the best. It would be nice to have some European comments too. Let's try to do an universal version, not only latin-american.
Last but not least, I don't think Burnpro's version is badly translated, like ferbe said. Maybe it needs some reviews and updates (like mine, Neto's or Johnpagecr's) but it's far from bad
I don't think there is a need for a second Spanish translation (I mean, european and latam). Neoak is right when he suggests doing a "neutral" version, so every spanish-speaking person can understand it the same way. Instead of discussing which is the best translation, we should make only one with a mix of the proposed ones, and any incoming suggestions.
I dunno what ferbe means by "improved translation". If ferbe had more experience translating books, he'd know that not every term or expression can be "directly translated". Sometimes you need to add a slight variation to some words, phrases or sentences to preserve its meaning/sense, e.g. when you deal with "idioms". Just try to translate a song or a poem with rhymes and you should understand what i'm talking about.
That way i suggested "Trucos" for "Cheat Codes" instead of "Códigos de trampa", which is smaller, easier to understand and may be helpful for emu authors (as Neto said when he talked about the needing of abbreviations). That's not my idea, it was adopted previously in some Spanish translations of MAME, and nobody complains about it (well, they translate "cheats", not "cheat codes", but they "mean" the same).
What's wrong with "Remover"????? It's OK, leave it.
Well, "Proceso" is not the correct translation of "Thread", but I don't think it's Neoak's fault, there are lots of books translated from english to spanish that have this error as well.
And thanks to NeTo and Jonpagecr for considering my version in your translations. If I have enough time, i'm gonna mix all versions and post it so we can approach to a final release. As I said before, we should team up and make only one version, which we all consider it's the best. It would be nice to have some European comments too. Let's try to do an universal version, not only latin-american.
Last but not least, I don't think Burnpro's version is badly translated, like ferbe said. Maybe it needs some reviews and updates (like mine, Neto's or Johnpagecr's) but it's far from bad
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PabloJM
New member
Spanish Translation
It's me again.
As I promised before, I mixed up these spanish translations: NeTo, JohnPageCr, BurnPro and mine. I have also sent a private message to you guys so we can discuss about the final version without flooding the forums with all the spanish stuff. If anybody wants to contribute, please let me know
EDIT: Updated in a later post.
It's me again.
As I promised before, I mixed up these spanish translations: NeTo, JohnPageCr, BurnPro and mine. I have also sent a private message to you guys so we can discuss about the final version without flooding the forums with all the spanish stuff. If anybody wants to contribute, please let me know
EDIT: Updated in a later post.
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Nighty0
Gentoo n00b
Report about my lang file and Dee Dark language file
Dee Dark: thanks for the ideas, but after i testing your lang file with 1964 beta, i see that my lang file is better, but thnx anyway........
After many tests with 1964beta and my lang file, i have changed many strings... that are more better, but i have some space problems, and now i am waiting for a little modification made by Siskoo implemented in 1964 by Rice because i can't short "DMA em segmentos" string
some tips for you Dee Dark: "Exceções inúteis de CP1" isn't the right translation at all........(only using the 1964 beta you can see this), "Registrar Caching" isn't the right translation, but is the unique choice, we can use without problems......
"Compilador em dois passos" is many long.......
"lag (atraso) menor" isn't good - "pouco lag (atraso)" is better (if you agree....)
and many other things......
Dee Dark: thanks.... now i can see the difficulties of an another brazilian user....
our language is very beauty, but is not flexible....
_Oz_: yep, some lines are very long, need many modifications..........
My translations is tottaly done (99.9% i believe... ;-)) since 18/12, i need only a patched 1964 beta that supports "DMA em segmentos:" correctly to release my final version.....
Finally: i considering to change some strings after i see Dee Dark lang file, to make more easier to understand........
Thnx at all guys, specially to Dee Dark, The Siskoo and Rice........
Dee Dark: thanks for the ideas, but after i testing your lang file with 1964 beta, i see that my lang file is better, but thnx anyway........
After many tests with 1964beta and my lang file, i have changed many strings... that are more better, but i have some space problems, and now i am waiting for a little modification made by Siskoo implemented in 1964 by Rice because i can't short "DMA em segmentos" string
some tips for you Dee Dark: "Exceções inúteis de CP1" isn't the right translation at all........(only using the 1964 beta you can see this), "Registrar Caching" isn't the right translation, but is the unique choice, we can use without problems......
"Compilador em dois passos" is many long.......
"lag (atraso) menor" isn't good - "pouco lag (atraso)" is better (if you agree....)
and many other things......
Dee Dark: thanks.... now i can see the difficulties of an another brazilian user....
our language is very beauty, but is not flexible....
_Oz_: yep, some lines are very long, need many modifications..........
My translations is tottaly done (99.9% i believe... ;-)) since 18/12, i need only a patched 1964 beta that supports "DMA em segmentos:" correctly to release my final version.....
Finally: i considering to change some strings after i see Dee Dark lang file, to make more easier to understand........
Thnx at all guys, specially to Dee Dark, The Siskoo and Rice........
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Sorry Nekobabu, I don't have a beta version of 1964 to test with so I have no idea where Japanese character encoding is not going to work properly.
Nonetheless, half the translation file is still in English in your file, because of that. Hardly a translation
Can I also ask you why you make a lot of lines Wasei Eigo (stolen English words in Katakana)? I'm trying to make it easy for Japanese to understand, not harder.
Nonetheless, half the translation file is still in English in your file, because of that. Hardly a translation
Can I also ask you why you make a lot of lines Wasei Eigo (stolen English words in Katakana)? I'm trying to make it easy for Japanese to understand, not harder.
Actually Nekokabu, I've realised that there's a few mistakes in your translation. These lines:
16,Select a ROM folder
30,Select Game Save Folder
31,Select Plugin Folder
32,Select ROM Folder
These are requests, not statements. So you would say 選択してください, not 何々の選択.
20,Looking for ROM files in the ROM directory and Generating List
This line appears when it's actually doing those processes. So, しています is used, not します (it's actually updating the list, it's not going to update the list).
If you want to discuss these please email me (in English or Japanese) at the address in my translation file. Hope I was able to help.
16,Select a ROM folder
30,Select Game Save Folder
31,Select Plugin Folder
32,Select ROM Folder
These are requests, not statements. So you would say 選択してください, not 何々の選択.
20,Looking for ROM files in the ROM directory and Generating List
This line appears when it's actually doing those processes. So, しています is used, not します (it's actually updating the list, it's not going to update the list).
If you want to discuss these please email me (in English or Japanese) at the address in my translation file. Hope I was able to help.
The Siskoo
Member
Nighty0 said:
No problem Nighty0, the beta test team is a great team, good to have you with us.
Nighty0 said:
That's all right... Let's just say I'm not an expert in computer programming voccabulary... And, after all, that file was the easiest way to help the translation project, without access to your file, and without posting line by line... :happy: Glad to help with 1964's brazillian portuguese translation patch
Só me menciona nos agradecimentos do cabeçalho, que tá beleza
Nekokabu
Member
AL9999 said:Actually Nekokabu, I've realised that there's a few mistakes in your translation. These lines:
16,Select a ROM folder
30,Select Game Save Folder
31,Select Plugin Folder
32,Select ROM Folder
These are requests, not statements. So you would say 選択してください, not 何々の選択.
20,Looking for ROM files in the ROM directory and Generating List
This line appears when it's actually doing those processes. So, しています is used, not します (it's actually updating the list, it's not going to update the list).
If you want to discuss these please email me (in English or Japanese) at the address in my translation file. Hope I was able to help.
It is not a mistake.
It is because a meaning is fully understood by the translation.
Nekokabu said:
Bah... that's like saying "let's just translate any old way, as long as the meaning is conveyed across".
So if I were to write "Me AL, me program new translation into new form of program", that's acceptable because it can be understood.
Anyway I'm not gonna turn this thread into a rant, but it's saddening that some translations are done that way.
つまりnekokabuさんの意見と同意しません。本当の言葉に訳すのではなく、ただ理解できる言葉に訳すなんて残念だと思います。今度は私がやる和訳は本当の言葉を目指して訳します。
PS 和製英語を使ってあまり分かりやすくしていないと思いますよ。^O^
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Nighty0
Gentoo n00b
Dee Dark said:Só me menciona nos agradecimentos do cabeçalho, que tá beleza
Bah, mas jah tah se colando!!!!!!!!!!! hahhahaaha!!!!!!!!!! :freak: :cyclops:
pode crer...... tah tranquilo...... pode deixar que vou colocar sim..........
you wanna credits, hum????????? ok, i'll give to you........
OP
Rice
Emulator Developer
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Another version of German translation from Gladiac.
Here is the original email from him.
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hi
I was not able to post anything in emutalk (i hate vbulletin...) so i
desided to mail you my german translation for 1964. I know, there is
already
a german translation posted on the board, but I found some mistakes and
cleaned 'em. Please mail me back, if you find anything that is not the
way
you want it to be.
mkay, see ya!
Gladiac
Here is the original email from him.
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hi
I was not able to post anything in emutalk (i hate vbulletin...) so i
desided to mail you my german translation for 1964. I know, there is
already
a german translation posted on the board, but I found some mistakes and
cleaned 'em. Please mail me back, if you find anything that is not the
way
you want it to be.
mkay, see ya!
Gladiac
jacker
El Traductor
Rice said:
Yes, there are some mistakes in the German file(I would translate some things the other way), but the only thing he did is correcting some graphical errors(Dialog 10 and line 10 in the string Section - that's all I could find) and replacing the original authors name with his own. The normal thing for him to do was to write the author an e-mail with his suggestions.
Gladiac0190
New member
mkay, seems that everybody hates me now... I'm the guy, that did some modifications to the grman languagefile... first of all, sorry for deleting your "copyright"-information. This was a bloody mistake which occured when copy'n paste around in my editor... will never happen again.
The mistakes i cleaned are mostly grafical stuff? maybe, but not really...
ss != ß
ö != Ö
and != und
hope you understand, what i mean...
glad (yes, i got my account working.... bloody vbulletin)
The mistakes i cleaned are mostly grafical stuff? maybe, but not really...
ss != ß
ö != Ö
and != und
hope you understand, what i mean...
glad (yes, i got my account working.... bloody vbulletin)
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