I'm so excited

[Fudge3000]

There is a question here, only at the end of the post

For the longest time I've been stuck with a P3 450 and had been completely unable to enjoy PJ64 the way it was meant to be enjoyed: with smooth graphics and near-flawless sound...and finally...at long last...my upgrade is here!

P4 2.53
Intel 845 chipset
1024 mb DDR 2100 ram
80GB 8mb buffer HD

I'm so excited! I don't mean to brag or to seem arrogant or anything, but for anyone who's been in my shoes before, its such a great feeling! Sorry to bother anyone, but I just HAD to tell someone! Now all I have to do is wait for my memory from Crucial...sigh...joy...

I did have a question too...for those who have a similar computer...do most games run at full speed? Would Conkers or MOM run choppy at all or would the sound skip a lot still? Please let me know...I don't want my expectations TOO high...

 

[bositman]

You got such a POWERFULL system with a CRAP gx card! I mean with this system even with a GF2 MX youll get much better graphics from this onboard one! Since you spent all these money for this pc,i suggest you make it balanced :/

 

[jollyrancher]

Well what is the gfx card? I think the Intel 845 chipset is just some AGP thing... something that powers the gfx card. All the games that are compatible (80 to 90%) should work fine on that computer assuming the gfx card is halfway decent.

 

[ShadowFX]

He didn't mention his GFX card in that list. More info on that can be found here: Intel i845 Chipset

 

[Maximus]

Your computer is surely fascinating, but i845 chipset is on-board graphic, and it sucks. Personally I don't like on-board video, although you can share as much system RAM (wow, 1GB DDR) as you can, the benchmark of i845 is only about 30% of a GeForce 4. No offence but since you can get yourself such a high performance system, why not throw out about US$120 to get a decent GeForce 4?

 

[Engeljaeger]

I'm so excited! I don't mean to brag or to seem arrogant or anything, but for anyone who's been in my shoes before, its such a great feeling! Sorry to bother anyone, but I just HAD to tell someone!

*grrrrrrr*...go tell your grandma :angry:
And really...why throwing away so much money for the a high end pc if you can have a reeeal decent one for have the price...and with a good graphic card...

Some people just have too much money....give it to me!!! :sly:

 

[RPGlover12]

Re: Re: I'm so excited

I'm so excited! I don't mean to brag or to seem arrogant or anything, but for anyone who's been in my shoes before, its such a great feeling! Sorry to bother anyone, but I just HAD to tell someone!

And really...why throwing away so much money for the a high end pc if you can have a reeeal decent one for have the price...and with a good graphic card...

did u mean half the price and i agree with ya he could've got abetta system but not with half the price

 

[Stezo2k]

shouldnt of gone the intel approach realy, AMDs are a lot cheaper and more powerful than intels, a 1 Ghz Amd is the eqivelent to a Intel 1.2Ghz.

U could of got the same system having a Amd, you'd have a lot more money to spend on graphics cards

Stez

 

[Smiff]

just for God's sake get a decent graphics card, GF3+ or Radeon8500+

 

[Fudge3000]

Well guys, there's some of you dissing Intel for some reason, I don't understand why...here's how cheap the parts were:

BOXED P4 2.53 ghz 533 bus = 250 bucks
BOXED P4 845egb2l motherboard = 130 bucks
2 BOXED 512 MB ECC DDR266 ram = 240 bucks...

That is pretty damn cheap. When Intel released the 2.8 ghz, they cut the price of the 2.53 IMMENSELY...making it much more worth it than the hard to find 2600+...not to mention the fact that Intel is more reliable than AMD and at least I didn't have to deal with that godforsakenly horrible VIA chipset...

 

[Fudge3000]

haha...I just realized that you people think I got the 845 motherboard with the integrated video "solution"...hahahaha...lol...my bad.

I have a radeon 8500 64 mb...I'm set guys

lol...all you people overreact way too fast. Also...no one answered my question...now that you have all the info...how will games run?

 

[Eagle]

Ah much better there then. No integrated video. Yeah, you could have gotten that system a lot cheaper if you had gone with AMD, but if youve already bought it then there is no use crying over wasted money. Always keep in mind though that your 2.5gig Pentium really only opperates at 2.0gigs. the extra 500mhz is merely an intel scheme to make them look better than AMD.

 

[Fudge3000]

Toms Hardware had an indepth comparison between all p4s and athlon xps and frankly, the 2.53 outperformed the 2600+ ever so slightly in all tests...and hell, the 2600+ wasn't even out when I needed to build this thing (I leave for college in two weeks so time was of the essence)...

I dunno why people keep saying I spent too much money...250 is very reasonable for the second or third best intel cpu on the market right now...the 2600+ won't be an incredible amount cheaper...

Also, this is something I already had a lot of parts for, like a plextor 40x burner, a pioneer dvd drive, my radeon 8500...I spent a grand and I'm getting an elite system...what more could a guy want? :sleepy:

PS: Sorry, Eagle, but due to the insane number of problems a friend of mine had with AMD (not the cpu, but rather finding a stable, reliable, and competent motherboard WITH US customer support [gigabyte, I'm looking in your general direction]), I would never ever buy AMD. I'm the kind of guy willing to spend 50-100 bucks more for better stability and guaranteed customer support...

I don't want to stand in Fry's in that goddamn return line or stare at 30 used boxes of motherboards on the shelf when I go to replace my defective board...who can fault me? I know my friend sure as hell can't...

 

[icepir8]

Ah much better there then. No integrated video. Yeah, you could have gotten that system a lot cheaper if you had gone with AMD, but if youve already bought it then there is no use crying over wasted money. Always keep in mind though that your 2.5gig Pentium really only opperates at 2.0gigs. the extra 500mhz is merely an intel scheme to make them look better than AMD.

This brought to you by the people who brought you the Pentium devide error.

 

[sk8bloke22]

lol, u could just look up some reviews of some decent stable via chipsets (they do exist), then u would know exactly wat to get and wat not to get. ah bah, the p4 is a lil faster, although i think its not the best option for n64 emus as i believe almost all the authors use amd systems, and therefore optimise things for amd (im not totally 100% positive on that tho). and yeh the gfx card is fine, in fact its faster than the radeon 9000, and has decent image quality, blah blah. nicce system, everything should run very fast without choppiness. also i owuld crank all the highest gfx card settigns for n64 emus, cos they rely much more on the cpu than the gfx card meaning hardly any speed loss.

 

[Stezo2k]

Intel is more reliable than AMD and at least I didn't have to deal with that godforsakenly horrible VIA chipset...

WRONG, and if theyre more relyable, how come some stuff needs patches to work on a P4 (VGS and all sorts of other stuff)
intel isnt as relyable as it used to be, they label 2ghz p4s as 2.5 as a con. I'm not dissin intel or P4s, but amd AthlonXPs are still better than p4s, and hopefully will be in the future

Stez

 

[Smiff]

the only thing i'd be worried about is i'm not sure PJ64 works well on a P4, none of the team have one, but from what Duncan and people are saying is bollox, there's no mysterious pauses on £30 duron.

 

[Stezo2k]

Always keep in mind though that your 2.5gig Pentium really only opperates at 2.0gigs. the extra 500mhz is merely an intel scheme to make them look better than AMD.

Hmm isnt that ILLEGAL? I heard when i studied business stuidies at school that false advertisment is illegal

E.G. Walkers saying there crisps packets have 30G in them, when they really have 22G or something like that. Another example is labeling a game at £10 when its really £40, the customer can but it @ £10 cuz thats the marked price

Stez

 

[Eagle]

PS: Sorry, Eagle, but due to the insane number of problems a friend of mine had with AMD (not the cpu, but rather finding a stable, reliable, and competent motherboard WITH US customer support [gigabyte, I'm looking in your general direction]), I would never ever buy AMD. I'm the kind of guy willing to spend 50-100 bucks more for better stability and guaranteed customer support...

One word "ASUSTek" sometimes slightly more expensive yet 50 times more reliable even with some of the worst chipsets. And by the way, what AMD motherboard was gigabyte using? Basing all your beliefs on AMD based on one persons bad experience is hardly what I call a good idea. My brother has had nothing but trouble from his AMD system cause he bought a crap motherboard. However, I didn't look at my brothers system and say "Oh well his motherboard is crap so all of them must be and I'm never buying an AMD". I mean come on. And as for that TomsHardware thing, you do know that the Athlon XP 2600 is the equivilent of an Intel 2.4gig CPU right? So yes the 2.53 out performed the AMD CPUs cause AMD hasnt made one to equal its power yet. And I doubt the difference beween about 100 or 200 mhz was that big a difference. Intel may have had a slight advantage but I doubt it was anything to worry about and AMD is $50 cheaper!!! $50 is a lot of money for a slight increase in performance and its not because AMD CPUs arent as good its because AMD treats their customers right and doesnt lie or cheat them out of their money.

Sorry but I've been on Intel for years and its given me plenty of trouble, I guess that means that since I've had bad experiences that all Intel CPUs/Mobos are crap right? LOL Intel makes good products (mostly) but they arent any better or worse than AMD however they are a hell of a lot more expensive.

 

[Eagle]

Always keep in mind though that your 2.5gig Pentium really only opperates at 2.0gigs. the extra 500mhz is merely an intel scheme to make them look better than AMD.

Hmm isnt that ILLEGAL? I heard when i studied business stuidies at school that false advertisment is illegal

E.G. Walkers saying there crisps packets have 30G in them, when they really have 22G or something like that. Another example is labeling a game at £10 when its really £40, the customer can but it @ £10 cuz thats the marked price

Stez

Ah, well its a complicated loophole actually. I'm not sure I can completely understand it myself but Intel's lawyers have guarunteed it to be legal. I'll give it a haphazzard shot though. From what I understand, basically Intel CPUs (P4s only) technically do run at their given frequency but produce the speed of a lower frequency. So the CPU is really working harder to run at a high frequency but is capped at a lower speed. I read an article on it once, somebody may be able to explain it better or even turn up the article that was posted here.