GiriGiri 6/28/04 Build out!
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CrazyYatta
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Barnito said:
Well, I did read the documents, and i remember seeing in the "Readme" that it said
++ "Configure 1st player joypad"
And what does this, this DOSEN'T WORK for now.
And ya, i tried the configure thing b4 and again, but everytime i try to configure the buttons by clicking on em, the program freezes. I use an EMS USB 2. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a fix, or a way to manually put in the buttons?
CrazyYatta
Member
Barnito said:
Whenever I do use Configure.exe it freezes whenever i click a button to assign. I dont know what the problem is.
Barnito and friends who provide the knowledge to the builders.
Just a point of interest regarding the games.dat file and emulation.
When you he F4 and are reading the framerate numbers are off to the left and the cpu process number on the far right. The right number tells you how close to the actual game speed you are running. For instance in SonicR, my frame rate runs between 300/60 and 60/60 depending on what instruction code needs proccessing. The game plays in a wave type action, High(meaning the 300 range) and Low(meaning the 60) for framerate, constantly changing to the sound and graphic regeneration. This has changed a little and became more stable as the sound code clean up makes a large difference. The higher the rate the faster the game runs and so on. The clue to all of this is the number on the right, which is the actual speed the game is running at. It goes as low as 5 or 6 and all the way up to 60. 60 is max, equivalant to 60 fps. Now this can be modified by two proccessies. 1) Turn of layers. 2) Modify the games.dat file. Here is an example:
;SonicR(U)
[MK-81800]
PriorityMode=0
EdsrShift=0
VSync=6
MaxTexCnt=1200
BankChck=0
CDWait=0
ADXStream=0
OneSectorWait=0
NormalSpriteCheck=60
DistSpriteCheck=60
CharPtnChck=60
ScaleSpriteCheck=60
FrameWait=0
With this I can get SonicR (U) to run at an average of 20 to 30(far right number, not fps), which is quite good enough to run the game at a constant interval, and very playable. It's only when the number drops to below 10 that the slow downs occur.
One thought, if it is not already implemented in the program is to cache the video and audio to smooth out game play and to by pass unfinished code routines the games run into.
One more thing. There seems to be alot of question on joypad configuration. Try manualy installing your joypads by going to the user.ini file in /windows/profiles/saturn.
When you see this:
[SMPC]
SetTime=TRUE
AreaCode=1
InputDevice=0 'this is joypad one, when it is set there is an id number.
P2Enable=FALSE 'make it TRUE
P2InputDevice=-1 'this is joypad two, when it is set there is an id number.
instance1=NULL
instance2=NULL
Further down in the file is the joypad map configs.
The joypad id numbers correspond to the controllers for identification and distinction.
Just a point of interest regarding the games.dat file and emulation.
When you he F4 and are reading the framerate numbers are off to the left and the cpu process number on the far right. The right number tells you how close to the actual game speed you are running. For instance in SonicR, my frame rate runs between 300/60 and 60/60 depending on what instruction code needs proccessing. The game plays in a wave type action, High(meaning the 300 range) and Low(meaning the 60) for framerate, constantly changing to the sound and graphic regeneration. This has changed a little and became more stable as the sound code clean up makes a large difference. The higher the rate the faster the game runs and so on. The clue to all of this is the number on the right, which is the actual speed the game is running at. It goes as low as 5 or 6 and all the way up to 60. 60 is max, equivalant to 60 fps. Now this can be modified by two proccessies. 1) Turn of layers. 2) Modify the games.dat file. Here is an example:
;SonicR(U)
[MK-81800]
PriorityMode=0
EdsrShift=0
VSync=6
MaxTexCnt=1200
BankChck=0
CDWait=0
ADXStream=0
OneSectorWait=0
NormalSpriteCheck=60
DistSpriteCheck=60
CharPtnChck=60
ScaleSpriteCheck=60
FrameWait=0
With this I can get SonicR (U) to run at an average of 20 to 30(far right number, not fps), which is quite good enough to run the game at a constant interval, and very playable. It's only when the number drops to below 10 that the slow downs occur.
One thought, if it is not already implemented in the program is to cache the video and audio to smooth out game play and to by pass unfinished code routines the games run into.
One more thing. There seems to be alot of question on joypad configuration. Try manualy installing your joypads by going to the user.ini file in /windows/profiles/saturn.
When you see this:
[SMPC]
SetTime=TRUE
AreaCode=1
InputDevice=0 'this is joypad one, when it is set there is an id number.
P2Enable=FALSE 'make it TRUE
P2InputDevice=-1 'this is joypad two, when it is set there is an id number.
instance1=NULL
instance2=NULL
Further down in the file is the joypad map configs.
The joypad id numbers correspond to the controllers for identification and distinction.
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Barnito said:
Of course it is, someone still holds the copyrights to the portions of the original code I'm sure. Just cause a company sinks and someone else hacks and reqrites parts of it (and it doesn't matter how much percentage wise) does not make it freeware.
And I'm no MOD here, but I would remove those links from your message due to all the ROM/ROM links on your site. I been around here for a while now and that is a sure fire way to get banned.
CrazyYatta
Member
Yaa...probably... But anyways, great post zman. I almost forgot about that file. I really hated how it was in the windows folder (It doesn't need to be in there, really). Someone should fix this in one of their font-ends or something. I know it all has to do with the base.ini. I even tried this:
[BASEINFO]
USERDIR=.\profiles
AREA=
DISK1TOC=.\toc.bin
DISK1IMG=
But the problem with that is, the base USERDIR starts in the WINDOWS ROOT! ARR! Someone needs to re-write something for it to just stay in the damn emu folder. Thats nonsense to put it in the windows root. Anyone reading this who has been messin around with GiriGiri code, FIX THIS. its ANNOYING. especially if u needa manually edit things in. On a side note tho, to zmans help with my joypad problem, I'm still a little foggy on how to menually edit this. Heres what mine looks like.
[SMPC]
P2Enable=TRUE
P2InputDevice=0
I don't know why it's missing all the crap from ur's but i dont know what to fill in. I mean, I know i have to put in the InputDevice thing (i think), but i still wouldnt know what numbers to assign to the buttons. How would i go about figuring that out? yarrr...
[BASEINFO]
USERDIR=.\profiles
AREA=
DISK1TOC=.\toc.bin
DISK1IMG=
But the problem with that is, the base USERDIR starts in the WINDOWS ROOT! ARR! Someone needs to re-write something for it to just stay in the damn emu folder. Thats nonsense to put it in the windows root. Anyone reading this who has been messin around with GiriGiri code, FIX THIS. its ANNOYING. especially if u needa manually edit things in. On a side note tho, to zmans help with my joypad problem, I'm still a little foggy on how to menually edit this. Heres what mine looks like.
[SMPC]
P2Enable=TRUE
P2InputDevice=0
I don't know why it's missing all the crap from ur's but i dont know what to fill in. I mean, I know i have to put in the InputDevice thing (i think), but i still wouldnt know what numbers to assign to the buttons. How would i go about figuring that out? yarrr...
CrazyYatta said:
The way I got all the info including the ID number for my joypad is, I erased the user.ini file in profiles directory. Then I ran GLAUNCH to set the joypad up and ran the emulator by pushing Gavionne launch button. After that the computer set the user.ini files settings with emulator, including the ID number for joypad one. I only used one joypad. If Gavionne's glauncher doesn't set up your second controller. Just set up a different controller on joypad 1 and copy the settings to the right place on user.ini for joypad 2 and then hook up both joypads.
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At this , Sega no longer recognizes the GiriGiri emulator.
The GiriGiri team author Shinya Miyamoto is the original Copyright holder of 2001.
After he left the project and Sega took over, the emulator was short lived.
Sega took over the copyrights up to 2003 and never renewed them after the
theft of the unlock code to the commercial release and the project was canned.
Sega does not have any future plans for GiriGiri at this ,
and as you point out, the recent take over of Sega, will not likely even
consider emulation, as Sammy will be focusing on arcade systems.
Sega has never supported outside development, and never likely will.
All Sega systems and Games remain protected.
Sincerely,
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I am interested in the conditions of the legal rights (if any) of your now
ceased GiriGiri program.
Between it being a dropped commercial product, and Sammy taking over, and a complete lack of any reference on any of Sega's sites... well, you get where I'm going.
If rights are no longer being claimed, can you tell me of any further
resources that could help in the programs development?
If rights are to be held, can you please send me the full details.
Thank you.
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To: TheSnail@SoftHome.net
Dear Mr. Zumwalt,
Thank you for e-mailing Sega Technical Support.
Please feel free to send a addressing your specific concerns to our
corporate office using the following information:
Sega of America, Inc.
Attention: Legal Department
650 Townsend Street, Suite 650
San Francisco, CA 94103-4908
At this , Sega no longer recognizes the GiriGiri emulator.
The GiriGiri team author Shinya Miyamoto is the original Copyright holder of 2001.
After he left the project and Sega took over, the emulator was short lived.
Sega took over the copyrights up to 2003 and never renewed them after the
theft of the unlock code to the commercial release and the project was canned.
Sega does not have any future plans for GiriGiri at this ,
and as you point out, the recent take over of Sega, will not likely even
consider emulation, as Sammy will be focusing on arcade systems.
Sega has never supported outside development, and never likely will.
All Sega systems and Games remain protected.
Sincerely,
-Sandi
Sega of America Technical Support
--Original Message--
Email: TheSnail@xxx.xxx
AreaCode: 555
: 8675309
EmaiSubject: Other
EmailContent: I am an emulator developer.
I am interested in the conditions of the legal rights (if any) of your now
ceased GiriGiri program.
Between it being a dropped commercial product, and Sammy taking over, and a complete lack of any reference on any of Sega's sites... well, you get where I'm going.
If rights are no longer being claimed, can you tell me of any further
resources that could help in the programs development?
If rights are to be held, can you please send me the full details.
Thank you.
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I have a quick question. I am new to giri and I have just setup using this post and the tutorials your site. I have managed to get the Japanese copy of Rad Silv gun running without to much trouble. I have both players keys set and all functioning. My question is I have an arcade machine I am getting this running for and it has a Slik Stik Classic. The buttons are pre bound to certain keyboard keys and my mame/chanka configs are based on this setup. The problem I am having is one of the 2 of the main keys used (0 and 5) are used for functions for the emulator. Hitting 0 makes the sprited dissapear and hitting 5 messes wit hthe background images. Is there anyway to keep that from happening so I can bind to those keys without the interference. Any help is greatly appreciated being so close and getting hung up on such a little snag is frustrating to say the least.
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Is there any way to get Sonic Jam to get past the load screen for the games, any game I chose it shows the menu, and then freezes
Cless
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interesting idea. Granted for some reason when i run the emulator it to deletes the toc.bin which i would assume is why nothing runs, I could be wrong. The run last cue/bin doesn't work claiming the base.ini lacks the information but when i open it myself it has the correct information.
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