Dissapointed with PC gaming.

[WhiteX]

If they release some sort of mouse and movement keys, not necessarily an entire keyboard, for next gen consoles; you can kiss PC gaming goodbye.

 

[zAlbee]

Not really, text is still easier to read on a computer monitor than a TV. I've never seen HD resolution, but I've used my PC's TV out on a big wide-screen projection TV via S-video and the text just doesn't compare. Reading long RPG storylines would be annoying. There's a lot of things that make PC gaming nice.

Personally I'm moving towards doing everything on my PC: work, programming, playing WoW & warcraft, playing emulators through an Adaptoid, using my TV tuner to watch NHL playoffs, using the same tuner to plug in a console and play console games... I have no complaints.

Meanwhile, i STILL haven't got around to building my new computer around the Radeon X1800 I have... I'm still using my 8500 :huh: (and somehow it still serves it's purpose perfectly well... this says a lot about how satisfied I am... too lazy to upgrade, haha)

 

[arnalion]

Even if the system can use keyboard and mouse who said it will be used for gameplay? Yay the system got a keyboard, mouse and costs 600 dollars = PC. It has existed mouse and keyboard for a long time on consoles, it's not something new.

 

[WhiteX]

not the entire thing, but a smaller and more functional version, only for RTS´s because FPS´s will benefit from Wiimote.

 

[ScottJC]

I make comparisons to the Xbox 360 hardware and the PC because basically they are very close in terms of power and thats my main arguement for PC gaming slumping... the other argument of course is the gameplay.

The PS2 might be a great console but my PC blows it dead out of the water with its graphical prowess... I know power isn't everything but it helps. The Xbox360 however can compete directly with my PC's generally overwhelming dominance in the area of hardware... no console up until now has rivaled my PC... scary thought. My PC bested by something that cost 20% the price.

 

[WhiteX]

All we are saying...
Just give Wii a chance!

 

[revl8er]

Well I like many other people are excited about the Wii. No way of knowing if it will take the console wars this time around until we get a chance to actually try a game for it.

 

[WhiteX]

On Ign, Iga, from SotN fame, thinks that it will tire us out with all that movement...
But back on track, i believe that my point is very well proven...

"A gaming console is the optimal gaming device even if your PC is capable of gaming.
A PC is an outstanding multimedia machine however, greed, deadlines and lack of interest made it a poor gaming machine."

 

[LazerTag]

My PC bested by something that cost 20% the price.

Your paying to much for your computer equipment. hehe.

There's a few reason PC's just don't really cut it for gaming. Biggest issue is the PC is just to diverse. The software developers simply cannot code for all the endless possibilities of hardware and software that may effect their own product.

Another issue has always been controller support. Somewhere along the way some goof decided that the Atari 2600 style joystick was a great concept that would flow well with the PC, um, wrong. I think a huge reason that PC's have long since been the RTS/FPS and now MMORPG is simply due to the lack of decent controller support until just recently really. And even those controllers are so widely varied no one can again program decent games for every possible pad out there. I bet that's why you find lots of old school gamers looking into emulation. We can get back to our roots with all the hardcore oldies and pretty much setup the controller config anyway we darn well please in most cases.

Also almost every new game for the PC tends to require some sort of software or hardware upgrade which literally is getting ridiculous. As I joked about above, I have only paid about double what a 360 costs for my current rig, but if you took all the consoles I have bought (which is lots) and compared to how many PC upgrades I have done. In the last 25 years I would bet that ratio is super expensive to the PC side.

I don't know, just some thoughts to chew on. And FYI, I gave up most gaming myself on my PC after getting my PSP. Though I have not found a game yet that really grabs me thus far on the PSP itself, the emulation is a blast. And I do plan to get a 360 next. As Scott pointed out it's just too easy on a console and way less hassle. I'll save my PC for some word processing, graphics, photos, whatever.

 

[Doomulation]

Another issue has always been controller support. Somewhere along the way some goof decided that the Atari 2600 style joystick was a great concept that would flow well with the PC, um, wrong. I think a huge reason that PC's have long since been the RTS/FPS and now MMORPG is simply due to the lack of decent controller support until just recently really. And even those controllers are so widely varied no one can again program decent games for every possible pad out there. I bet that's why you find lots of old school gamers looking into emulation. We can get back to our roots with all the hardcore oldies and pretty much setup the controller config anyway we darn well please in most cases.

Although your arguments are valid, I don't think this one matters so much anymore...
The Microsoft DirectInput API is set to solve this problem. Via action mapping, games can specify what buttons and actions they use in the game and the API maps these to the control itself. And the drivers for the gamepad is the one that actually maps these to the specific buttons on the control. Via action mapping, the game can also look for a specific action to occour: eg, jump button pressed and then do the action. They don't need to look and remember each button as it's all handled automatically.

 

[revl8er]

Good point Doomulation, but you gotta also understand that not everybody knows how to map buttons on a controller. Also not every game supports controller input on a pc. It would be nice to see controller input on some games, but for the most part I'm happy with my mouse and keyboard.

 

[Doomulation]

And to that, I add: the developers are lazy Because, nowadays, there just is not excuse why they shouldn't add mapping. It's very easy.
I've experienced it myself!

 

[WhiteX]

M$ released the X360 controller for the PC, it should have standardized the input devices around a similar configuration and mouse/keyboard combo.

Meaning that any DX capable joypad with a similar design and button amount of the X360 controller should play games on PC but, even on multiplatform games, they more often than not forget to let the games use gamepads or make it too hard to configure the input.

One more point to console gaming.

 

[LazerTag]

M$ released the X360 controller for the PC, it should have standardized the input devices around a similar configuration and mouse/keyboard combo.

I disagree there. Logitech was, maybe still is, the leader in joystick and gamepads for the PC. Sure didn't seem to me anyone was following their lead, why bother following MS? Most companies will wait and see how the device pans out and the sales they pull in for it with PC users. I gotta say, I will not be one of them. I have a perfectly good adapter myself that lets me plug in my PS/PS2 controllers (which I really like them). I get all my buttons mappable as pointed out by others, but it is true that many peeps don't know these adapters exist or that you can map the buttons as wish for the most part.

And Doom, I still that point was valid as far as making note that PC gaming for many users simply wasn't feasible before because of controller issues so many of them turned to consoles. Gotta admit there's probably a lot less keyboard/mouse users then there are console based today. Actually anyone know of any hard statistics on this topic? I'd like to see some crunched numbers from a reputable firm.

 

[WhiteX]

What i am saying is that there is a legitimate effort from the system´s builder, you know "games for Windows", to make gaming run with a gamepad.
My gamepad is a PS2 mockup, what i am saying is that PC games developers could go, well, M$ released a console gamepad for PC, let´s not forget it when porting a game.

Oh, the 1.666 post, Hellish! :devil: