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config for psx game pad to majora's mask

ultracite

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PJ64 1.5 Majora's Mask
Input plugin Jabo's DirectInput7 1.5

with my psx controller i can't select any item, maps, mask, etc, on the item subscreen (start), when i move the analog right or left the selection goes automatically to the next subscreen without the possibility to select an item, just like if i press Z or R. I try others input plugins but don't work properly. I can't remember what drivers are installed, but the Hardware Admin. says " Hidclass.sys, HidParse.sys, psxenum.sys, hid.dll, driver provider: Y.Kimura".

I don't have this problem with the pj64 1.4, but this version don't run the game properly (the inferior part of the screen can't be seen (part of the map, part the day/night clock and the rupes counter)

Anyone have an idea what's wrong? I don't think that my system especification can be useful to solve the problem, but if anyone thinks different here are:

WinXP PRO Service pack 1
Pentium IV 1.7 GHz
GeForce2 MX 400 64 Mb
128 Mb. DDR

Sorry for my bad english.
 

Psicomantis

New member
For your localization I better write my explanation in spanish:

Yo tambien uso el mando de psx para jugar a los emuladores. En el caso de los emus de N64 te recomiendo que uses el plugin de N-Rage (lo tienes en la sección de descargas al final de la pagina principal) ya que soporta TODOS los botones y palancas del Dual Shock (quiza tengas algun problema para activar al tiempo el pad digital y el stick analogico izquierdo [aunque solo los Pokémon Stadium lo requieren]). Si el pad te funciona normalmente en otros juegos con este plugin ya no deberias tener problemas.

Por si acaso comprueba la configuración del pad en el Panel de Control de windows y cerciorate de que la configuración es adecuada. Tambien puedes tratar de actualizar los drivers del pad (en http://www.aldostools.com/dpad.html tienes varios). Un saludo.
 
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Could be good to post the translation, too, so the mods know what you're replying :satisfied
 

Jimbot

PJ64k Support Team
well,

Yo tambien uso el mando de psx para jugar a los emuladores. En el caso de los emus de N64 te recomiendo que uses el plugin de N-Rage (lo tienes en la sección de descargas al final de la pagina principal) ya que soporta TODOS los botones y palancas del Dual Shock (quiza tengas algun problema para activar al tiempo el pad digital y el stick analogico izquierdo [aunque solo los Pokémon Stadium lo requieren]). Si el pad te funciona normalmente en otros juegos con este plugin ya no deberias tener problemas.

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i also use the psx controller to play games. In the case of the n64 emus, i recommend that you use the N-Rage plugin (there is a section to download it at the bottom of the first page), and it supports EVERY button and control of the Dual Shock (which has a problem activating the digital pad and alalog stick and the right analog stick, whoch you need in pokemon stadium. but the pad funtions normally in other games with this plugin and you shouldn't have problems

that should be about right
 

Psicomantis

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I can't translate it better, thanks Jimbot.

The last part is "Also check the pad config at the Windows Control Panel and make sure that the config is the appropriate.You also can to update the drivers for the pad (at http://www.aldostools.com/dpad.html there are varius). See you."
 
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What interface is the adapter (e.g., LPT or AKA parallel, or USB)?
Because if it's LPT then you can try the drivers that I use for my SNES gamepad (also supports PSX, and N64), "NTPad XP" is the driver name, but I can't remember the version I use.
This may help, and it may not.
 
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ultracite

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thanks a lot guys

Thanks for your support guys (especialmente a ti Psicomantis),
I will try the plugins you say. The settings in the control panel are fine, all buttons and directions are fine.
I think its a bad hardware problem (my psx control has suffered many hard hits and now I have the problem with the PJ64 1.4 too) so I will try first with another psx pad. If isn't the problem I will try the plugins you say. It's strange that with other games and emulators my pad works perfectly, the only problem are the zelda 64 games.
And yes URAMetroid, I use an LPT adapter with a extensor cable made with the specifications for directpadpro (http://www.emulatronia.com) but since I cannot find a directpadpro support fot winxp, I tried another driver that works well for a long time (the driver that I don't remember the name).

Saludos a toda la comunidad hispana.
 
Mine also supports directpadpro, but it's only for Win9X with DirectX, but on my old PC (a 486DX4) I had to use a driver set called "SNESKey" (Note: I used the DOS ver), now I use NTPad XP, so hears a list of what I use on new and old PC's.

DOS and Windows 3.11 -- SNESKey DOS ver
Windows 95 ---------------- SNESKey DOS ver
Windows 98 and ME ------ DirectPad Pro
Windows XP ---------------- NTPad XP

Some DOS based emulators have built in support for the SNES LPT adapter, but that isn't going to help you.
If you think it's your drivers, then try NTPad XP, it works fine for me.

Note: NTPad is for NT based OS's (Windows XP, 2000, and NT), DirectPad Pro is for Win9X based OS's (e.g., Windows 95, 98, and ME).

I hope this info help's you.
 
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nephalim

Psychic Vampire
If it's USB, you do know that if it's in a different port it's considered a different gamepad, and needs to be remapped? This has happened to me more than once.
 
nephalim said:
If it's USB, you do know that if it's in a different port it's considered a different gamepad, and needs to be remapped? This has happened to me more than once.


It's LPT not USB (most PC's have one LPT port).
 

nephalim

Psychic Vampire
URAMetroid said:
It's LPT not USB (most PC's have one LPT port).

Sorry I missed that...anyway, it's useful info.
Nearly ALL PC's have one LPT port, unless it's one of those all-USB slim machines. Even almost all non-"mini" laptops have one serial and one LPT port. The LPT is used almost exclusively for printing. Gamepad ports are usually on the sound board for some reason I don't know. Wouldn't a serial port be better for a gamepad than an LPT port? Or are serial ports really not useful anymore? I know this is pretty off-topic, but i'm curious about the differences in the outdated peripheral connections.

It's also interesting to note that USB ports (in pairs) share the same USB "hub," (not sure of the proper term) thus sharing the same bandwith. A big downside to USB...is USB 2.0 regularly employed yet or is it still just a specification?
 
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Sorry I missed that...anyway, it's useful info.
Nearly ALL PC's have one LPT port, unless it's one of those all-USB slim machines. Even almost all non-"mini" laptops have one serial and one LPT port. The LPT is used almost exclusively for printing. Gamepad ports are usually on the sound board for some reason I don't know. Wouldn't a serial port be better for a gamepad than an LPT port? Or are serial ports really not useful anymore? I know this is pretty off-topic, but i'm curious about the differences in the outdated peripheral connections.

It's also interesting to note that USB ports (in pairs) share the same USB "hub," (not sure of the proper term) thus sharing the same bandwith. A big downside to USB...is USB 2.0 regularly employed yet or is it still just a specification?


LPT is much better then serial, and for gamepad adapters they have more room to work with by hand, and serial has 9 pins to work with, but LPT has 25 pins to work with, and LPT is faster then serial, at the time.

IMO, the reason that most older gamepads on the market use the MIDI port is because it was almost a "plug n play" interface (not really a "plug n play" interface for gamepad's, more for MIDI keyboards), and just to add, my old 486 had an ISA card that add's a third serial, and a second LPT port, but at the time most PC had two serial and one LPT ports.

And yes mostly all pairs of USB ports are part of the same HUB, for what reason, I don't know.
But my mobo in my PC, has four port and supports front USB so it can have six ports in all, but there are only two root HUB's, so for the front USB to work, it thinks it also has another four port HUB attached to it, so my first two ports share one HUB, and the other four share the second HUB.

Edit: I forgot to add that serial is now mainly used for external 56K modems, and for direct cable connection AKA: DCC for file sharing, but it's slower then LPT.
 
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OtNife

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I have exactly the same problem with the MM subscreen using my Logitech Wingman Rumblepad. I'm currently using the latest (final) Nrage plugin 1.82a.

The strange thing is, it only started to happen recently - up until then the subscreen worked fine. The problem never happens with OOT.
 
OtNife said:
I have exactly the same problem with the MM subscreen using my Logitech Wingman Rumblepad. I'm currently using the latest (final) Nrage plugin 1.82a.

The strange thing is, it only started to happen recently - up until then the subscreen worked fine. The problem never happens with OOT.


Do you have the newest drivers from Logitech ver 4.25?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=downloads/software&CRID=1784&contentid=5303&countryid=19&languageid=1

I'm going too see if I have this problem with my Wingman:plain:

Edit: I don't have this ver yet:doh:

Edit: it works fine for me, make sure that the Logitech Profileler is not on (if there is a "W" icon in the systray, it's on). And how long have you been uesing all versions of nrage?
 
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OtNife

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I just installed the latest Wingman drivers, but the problem remains. :cry:

I've been using the nrage plugins pretty much ever since it first appeared. As I said, the MM subscreen used to work fine. I've uninstalled/reinstalled PJ64, fiddled with settings, everything. It's weird.
 
OtNife said:
I just installed the latest Wingman drivers, but the problem remains. :cry:

I've been using the nrage plugins pretty much ever since it first appeared. As I said, the MM subscreen used to work fine. I've uninstalled/reinstalled PJ64, fiddled with settings, everything. It's weird.


Uninstalling and reinstalling PJ64 wont help this plugin much, I think to uninstall this plugin is to remove the registry key by hand.

Note: BACKUP YOUR REGISTRY BEFORE YOU DELETE ANYTHING!

OK, I think this is the only key to delete.

"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\NRage"

OK, it's not just a key, it's a folder with many key's (Note: by doing this you will lose all the NRage plugin settings, so right them down before you delete them).
Then you may want to re-download the NRage plugin again, then reconfigure it.
If it still doesn't work right, then reply, I'll then attach a .cpf file (NRage settings file) of my settings for this plugin.
Note: I don't have a .cpl file with me at the moment:cry:

Edit: know I have that .cpf file, and a bonus .cpf file, so you can say it's a two in one:flowers:
(!) Please reply if they don't work.(!)
 
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OtNife

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Many thanks, URAMetroid.

I'm away from my system at the moment, I'll try the above as soon as I get the chance, and let you know what happpened.
 

OtNife

New member
Yesssss! Problem sorted. Cheers matey! :happy:

I downloaded your configurations, and they worked. Your setup (the one with the C-buttons assigned to the wingman buttons, rather than the 2nd stick) was the same as mine, with one exception: My assigns for my [mostly redundant] Digital pad were EXACTLY the same as my Analog stick (Y-Axis,X-Axis), whereas your Digital pad had the Wingman's PoV functions assigned to it.

Maybe my original setup was confusing the subscreen with double-strength inputs for left & right? I must have altered the setup in the past; I happily played MM before the problem.

Thanks again! Now maybe I'll continue playing MM.....!


:D
 
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ultracite

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the problem persist

I already tried the N-Rage plugin and the problem persist. I have a new psx controller and the problem persist, so isn't a hardware problem. I uninstalled and reinstalled the PJ64 and the problem persist. Anyone have an idea?

URAMetroid, can you attach a .cpf file for the psx pad please? If it works for OtNife i think it can help me too.
Thanks for your support
 
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