Capital Punishment
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2fast4u
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aprentice said:
taking someones life, even if he/she has murdered, is putting you on the same level with the murderer. no one has the right to take someone elses life, NEVER. other than that, courts arent infallable and there would be nothing worse than executing an innocent person. also in my opinion the target of a justice system shouldnt primarily be punishment. even if you are looking for that though, you may consider life in jail is probably worse than death.
edit: yeah, i kinda said what passive posted long ago but since ren asked so nicely for my opinion i just had to deliver
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Trotterwatch
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Question:sir_key said:
Why the heck have you posted if you didn't like the thread?
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You are an idiot
DuDe said:
First of all DuDe, Nightline was only one example, it was five years ago so I'm not even sure it was Nightline. If you dont believe me, go look it up on the internet. Doing a search I found a long list of links outlining the costs of jail vs. the cost of execution and every time execution was more expensive. You have yet to even tell me of anything youve even seen or heard stating otherwise which makes me think you are talking out of your ass. All I know from what you have posted is that you think execution costs more. You dont reference to any studies done to prove it. So yes, until you can prove otherwise, I'm going to believe what I saw on ABC says.
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ScottJC
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I don't believe in capital punishment because to just be killed quickly for doing a crime so horrible as to deserve it is getting off lightly, they should be made to suffer for as long as possible, only then can they truely regret what they have done to the victim (if it was murder we're talking about)
Think about it would you rather die now or spend the rest of your life in jail... tough choice huh?
However I am against said individual getting out of Jail, if they do a crime that results in being bad enough for "capital punishment" they should be jailed for the rest of their life, never allowed to go free.
The UK doesn't practice capital punishment anyway really.
Just my two cents.
Think about it would you rather die now or spend the rest of your life in jail... tough choice huh?
However I am against said individual getting out of Jail, if they do a crime that results in being bad enough for "capital punishment" they should be jailed for the rest of their life, never allowed to go free.
The UK doesn't practice capital punishment anyway really.
Just my two cents.
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aprentice
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Stalkid64 said:The point of my post is that usually it's best to at least research a topic and get to know both sides if you want to argue it either way. As others here apparently have done. Helps the case to be able to add facts.
Actually facts are not necessarily, it can also be a morality issue, some people feel capital punishment is ok, while others feel the opposite. Noone ever said you need facts to believe in something
Stalkid64
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Very true, but it helps in debate if you can back up the argument on specifics.
For example, here it can be proven that the death penalty is more expensive; independant research from numerous sources can back this up, therefore it's impossible to argue that this point isn't true no matter what the morality issues.
In this particular part, it's hard to argue that a life term in prison is more expensive when reading a few articles will show you otherwise... I'm not saying facts are a 100% necessity, but handy if you don't want to go making a blind denial of something and not be able to support your argument surely..?
As for the death penalty, well while morally I'm against it and believe it's wrong, I can still see it being applicable in extreme cases with overwhelming evidence against the person in question. I can morally be against it one hundred percent, but that doesn't mean I can't see the POV and accept that of those who support it and, in the extreme cases, act on it. If that makes any kind of sense...
For example, here it can be proven that the death penalty is more expensive; independant research from numerous sources can back this up, therefore it's impossible to argue that this point isn't true no matter what the morality issues.
In this particular part, it's hard to argue that a life term in prison is more expensive when reading a few articles will show you otherwise... I'm not saying facts are a 100% necessity, but handy if you don't want to go making a blind denial of something and not be able to support your argument surely..?
As for the death penalty, well while morally I'm against it and believe it's wrong, I can still see it being applicable in extreme cases with overwhelming evidence against the person in question. I can morally be against it one hundred percent, but that doesn't mean I can't see the POV and accept that of those who support it and, in the extreme cases, act on it. If that makes any kind of sense...
vampireuk
Mr. Super Clever
Stalkid64 said:The point of my post is that usually it's best to at least research a topic and get to know both sides if you want to argue it either way. As others here apparently have done. Helps the case to be able to add facts.
Once again Stalkid applies the logic of "If they don't agree with my view they are wrong and have not researched enough"