zAlbee said:
Look, I don't mean to embarass you, but most of what you've posted doesn't make any sense.
I don't every feel embarassed about anything. Maybe being naked around 10000 people with my underdeveloped manhood but nothing else beyond that.:matrix:
zAlbee said:
Why would you assume that CO never exits the body??
I never said it NEVER exits the body. The point I was trying to get at is when CO binds and forms carboxyhemoglobin, it takes a large ammount of oxygen intake to clear your tissue up. CO keeps keeps O2 from binding, and remaining oxygen bound to hemoglobin is held more tightly, causing a much lower ammount of oxygen to flow to the tissues of the body. Of course a very small ammount is not going to do much, but it does. Any amount of oxygen deprivation from the body does damage, even if it is so mediocre it is unnoticable. At lower concentrations, this can cause changes in heart rhythm, headache, weakness, nausea, dizziness and dim vision. Any changes in heart rythym are not healthy, and most people will not take the time to exercise to strenghten and reverse the damage caused, even if it is trivial. Most of my information here comes from
http://www.toxicology.org/.
zAlbee said:
You make a statement like "[carbon monoxide] doesn't just pack up and leave anytime soon" without any proof.
You said it yourself, it will remain in the body until it is replaced with oxygen. If you're exposed to high doses of it, then you starve your body of oxygen. Chain smokers recieve double the amount of carbon monoxide in their blood, not to mention the meager ammounts found everywhere else. It may not show noticable effects, but long exposures cause permanent neurologic damage. After smoking a ciggarette breathing heavy isn't going to instantly replace every tissue bound with carboxyhemoglobin with oxygen. Again, any amount of abnormal oxygen deprivation is not good for your body.
zAlbee said:
Cigarette smoke contains
many chemicals that contribute to cancer. It is an error to suggest that CO actually causes all those things.
My exact words were: "(which I know, CO does not cause cancer)" after i went on my smoking spiel.
zAlbee said:
I think you are confused. Oxygen doesn't give you any energy at all. Energy is obtained from glucose, as well as anything else that can break down into glucose, or its derivative pyruvate. Oxygen only allows your cells to undergo aerobic respiration, which increases the amount of energy that can be produced from one pyruvate by about 10 times.
With you I am going to have to learn to be more literal. Oxygen is "responsible" for 90% of the energy we recieve.
http://www.lamasbeauty.com/lifestyle/december00/body-oxygen_print.htm
zAlbee said:
This is not even an argument!! I don't want to consider myself a tomato, maybe I shouldn't eat that? Leave the figure of speech as what it is, a metaphor. Side note: MSG is awesome.
Maybe I should have been more specific, that was meant as a metaphor. By saying "I am these things" can be looked at both ways. Whatever you eat is what your body is going to digest, absorb, and use.
zAlbee said:
I'm not even going to talk about the ridiculous "big bad organizations like FDA are evil and don't care about people, only money" cliche, which people like to use as argument.
The FDA approved "Zyprexa" as a treatment to bipolar disorder, which I was "supposedly" diagnosed with during childhood and was prescribed for a good year. It wasn't until after I stopped seeking treatment and medications did the so called "symptoms" and disease fade away. IMO it's all in someone's head, considering there is no physical evidence to this disease as of today. Zyprexa made me fat and lazy, sleep 12 hours a night, caused strange thoughts, and was proven to cause breast cancer in many patients, male and female. Why was it approved if evidence supports the causes? The money of course, and we dont' even know if bipolar truly exists. This is just one example of many medications, and it doesn't stop there. The FDA has allowed food companies to leave out (rough estimate of) up to 30 ingrediants on their packages when making a food product.
On a side note, there are "myths" described in many recent publishings of some great authors that state there is a natural cure to almost everything, and our government has hidden these from us. Is that one hard to believe as well? You really think we live in a flawless nation where it's "power to the people". Hell no, we dont' even have rights anymore. A man wrote a book on the corruption of the FDA, the government, and natural cures. He was thrown into prison for realeasing this information. The trial was not based on releasing "false information", but it was on "revealing government secrets" when being sworn to secrecy. Of course nothing is "proven", or is it just not "spoken of". Saying that can open up all kinds of debates. It's anyone's guess what really goes on in our superpower.
Azimer said:
science is flawed and self-defeating in the philosophy of life. For example, energy can not be created or destroyed. Do you feel you are an entity of energy or just some mystical force that allows you to understand what's going on, dream, think, build relationships, decided at this very point in time you will pick your butt hairs for no good reason? I do... I can do anything I want. at a low level, I am not driven by anything except my own existance. What happens to this existance... this energy... this soul that science can't seem to study? I really don't believe it gets detroyed or disappears. I've always felt like I've existed...
I'm with Azi all the way on that. I am more theological than scientific. I would prefer to think of myself as "me", living "now", knowing im something more than "flesh and bones", composed of zillions of atoms that will someday die and decay. I like to think the body is nothing more than a vehicle driven by our spirit, and that we are born and roam the earth, to teach and prepare us for a much greater purpose. If nobody has hope, or faith in anything, they usually never find a reason to truly exist. But as long as we live on earth, we have to treat our body good. Nothing is better than living naturally, putting only things into us that we truly need. Regardless of what research and proof is provided to us stating that certain additives and drugs are harmless, does this mean we should instantly assume that it's safe? People survived for milleniums without some of the problems and complications we suffer from today.
). It's their fault that they phrased it that way, it is very misleading.