Strange, you're arguing again. Over nothing. I never said it was made for home use. I made it quite clear that Intel are letting AMD forge the way with the Ath64. So what? Why make redundant statements. Intel brought 64bit out first. It was too slow. They basically stopped it. The Ath64 is fast yes. In 32 bit applications and Windows. It remains too be seen how first it will be in a ful 64bit environment. Longhorn is going to be that 64bit environment. By that stage ALL desktop CPUs will be 64bit. Please don't start this again with me. None of my comments in the last post were anything more than clarifying history.