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you know in genesis it talks about God creating the heavens and the Earth. I don't think God created the Earth. I think he just started it all. For all i know God could be part of a super super advanced race in another universe. I'm A Christian and sometimes i like to bring religion and science together.
ou know how the universe started, as a big bang with all the matter in one pressurized area smaller than an atom, than the pressure got so great it collapsed and exploded in a big BANG.
but what we dont know is how it all started there. who knows, God could of started all that matter in one place and he intended everything to go as planned and it did. the universe went boom and all matter spread and galaxies, solar systems, and stars, and planets started to appear. I don't think he created, I think he started the whole damn process!
ou know how the universe started, as a big bang with all the matter in one pressurized area smaller than an atom, than the pressure got so great it collapsed and exploded in a big BANG.
but what we dont know is how it all started there. who knows, God could of started all that matter in one place and he intended everything to go as planned and it did. the universe went boom and all matter spread and galaxies, solar systems, and stars, and planets started to appear. I don't think he created, I think he started the whole damn process!
AlphaWolf
I prey, not pray.
Aristotle suggested that the "unmoved mover" (or god) isn't an actual being to pray to or anything, rather god is the process that you're describing, only this process is intelligent - it thinks, and its leading the world in a specific direction.
IMO, all parts of the bible (passed genesis, 90% of which is entirely false) were based on things that realy did happen. However, the "history" it records was heavily altered from the events that actualy occured in order to fit the propaganda of the rulers of the time. I would say that a good 30% of the after genesis portion of the bible is real.
It's quite surprising how many people believe in the bible yet haven't even read the thing, except for maybe a few chapters from a scattered selection of books :happy:
IMO, all parts of the bible (passed genesis, 90% of which is entirely false) were based on things that realy did happen. However, the "history" it records was heavily altered from the events that actualy occured in order to fit the propaganda of the rulers of the time. I would say that a good 30% of the after genesis portion of the bible is real.
It's quite surprising how many people believe in the bible yet haven't even read the thing, except for maybe a few chapters from a scattered selection of books :happy:
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t0rek
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I already said that creation process described on Genesi is just a literay expression of that time, the genesis author didn't know about the big bang hipothesis by then, the rest of the parts of the bible has thing than are not exactly true but they are there for the purposes of teaching good things (like a present book of fiction that can teach us something)
AlphaWolf
I prey, not pray.
Right, but what I was refering to specificaly are those who believe the bible to be either entirely true or mostly true. I mean I can recall events from the bible in much finer detail than most religious types that I have come across, and they have the audacity to tell me that they know it to be real 
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t0rek
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AlphaWolf said:Right, but what I was refering to specificaly are those who believe the bible to be either entirely true or mostly true. I mean I can recall events from the bible in much finer detail than most religious types that I have come across, and they have the audacity to tell me that they know it to be real
Someone like that might be a christian but doesn't know the bible and its context very well
sogetsu2k1
Tux needs you!
Tux is my God :satisfied
lol, no way, I'm christian, but actually I'm not very religious....
And about the bible, I think that most of what is written there is mostly true, but wrote in an ancient way
lol, no way, I'm christian, but actually I'm not very religious....
And about the bible, I think that most of what is written there is mostly true, but wrote in an ancient way
euphoria
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Well this is interesting, this morning, me taking my morning sh*te and reading the newspaper came across a journal about an american methodist church and its relationship with the iraqian situtation. There was an interview of a guy who said that evolution theory should be replaced by the creation story(? you know what i mean) because evolution theory is *just* a theory! After coming around after the shock i thought of putting up a poll here on emutalk of ppls religious believes.
Maybe this wasn't a coincidence...
but unfortunately for the force which was trying to tell me something by all this, im atheist and believe only in my self!! :saint:
PS. Most of the wars going on now and in the past have been direct on indirect cause of religion. Being fanatic about anything is bad.
Maybe this wasn't a coincidence...
but unfortunately for the force which was trying to tell me something by all this, im atheist and believe only in my self!! :saint:
PS. Most of the wars going on now and in the past have been direct on indirect cause of religion. Being fanatic about anything is bad.
ShadowPrince
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euphoria said:
Actually very funny ,but i afraid, not so fresh idea .Nice logic,you can change "theory" on "story"
.But i curious how it connects to Iraqi situation in this paper ?
Have to agree with you about that religion is one of the main cases for many wars as well as LAND,but you should differ being religious fanatic and just religious.
The Khan Artist
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AlphaWolf said:
Creationism is based on the probability of evolution.
Anyways,
/me is a hardcore Roman Catholic.
sk8bloke22
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hehe, stop this thread before it reaches like 50 pages like the first 'Can the existence of God be proved' thread did (all thanks to moi ).
anyway just to contribute to the thread (as it would be rude not too :happy: ), just because we dont know how everything originated, does not mean there is a god, or god is the only explanation. the simple answer is - we dont know! the general theory of God, similar to marxist theory and other similar theories, cannot be deemed scientific as they are not falsifiable. i.e. it is impossible to know for sure whether or not god does exist as theres no intrinsic evidence, and the general theory of god (that god is everywhere, and is the all-knowing and all-powerful) is impossible to prove. therefore, the arguement for god's existence is pretty pointless, in the sense that it is not scientific and therefore cannot be proved through the sort of empirical evidence that we use today to prove things.
).anyway just to contribute to the thread (as it would be rude not too :happy: ), just because we dont know how everything originated, does not mean there is a god, or god is the only explanation. the simple answer is - we dont know! the general theory of God, similar to marxist theory and other similar theories, cannot be deemed scientific as they are not falsifiable. i.e. it is impossible to know for sure whether or not god does exist as theres no intrinsic evidence, and the general theory of god (that god is everywhere, and is the all-knowing and all-powerful) is impossible to prove. therefore, the arguement for god's existence is pretty pointless, in the sense that it is not scientific and therefore cannot be proved through the sort of empirical evidence that we use today to prove things.