It's over...

[Allnatural]

Kerry concedes, Bush wins. :party:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/election.main/index.html

[2fast4u]

well done america.

not only you elected a damn liar who sent your sons and daughers to war over nothing. you managed to give him a clear lead with 3.5 million votes _and_ a majority in both houses which allows him to act out every law he proposes.

now look forward to more fear my friends and you young girls be advised that bush is known to keep his promises, so you might get the enjoyment of aborting your own baby with a coat hanger.

48% of america and the whole other world slaps their forehead while in saudi arabia, a few company meetings and a cave in afghanistan a bottle of champagne is being opened. :whistling

[vampireuk]

Oh yeah! :happy:

I had no doubts of Bush winning the election, and credit to Kerry for been man enough to concede.

[vampireuk]

Is this a case of democracy sucking if you don't get it your way 2fast4u? ;)

[Allnatural]

well done america
:)


you young girls...might get the enjoyment of aborting your own baby with a coat hanger in future.
hmm, you make it sound like more than just a lifeless clump of cells...

[willljjj]

Uh, in a democracy, you would have a free press, free speech and real elections. I don't really see any relevance to this thread.

[ScottJC]

Amazing, the ass-hole won, and the other ass-hole lost, well, hardly a suprise.

[GogoTheMimic]

Hope everyone has fun when the Patriot Act II is finished. Who needs silly things like freedom and liberty? What a old, worn out idea.

[vampireuk]

So unless you get the guy YOU want democracy is a failure?

[Clements]

At least this gives Bush more years to catch Osama Bin Laden and perhaps redeem himself.

[GogoTheMimic]

So unless you get the guy YOU want democracy is a failure?

Not really. I hated both choices. Either way the country is going to be through some hell in the next four years.

I'm more bitter about the town I live in throwing away the chance to get the state to build new schools and fix the system. Instead, the dipshits that live around me not only destroyed the levy that would raise taxes less than a dime a day but also repealed an old levy which now tosses our already broke school system into bankrupcy which means the state will be taking over next year. Goodbye arts, music, and sports!

[2fast4u]

Is this a case of democracy sucking if you don't get it your way 2fast4u? ;)

yeah you would like that i suppose. its a clear case of the result of an election sucking, no more, no less.

[Orkin]

Uh, in a democracy, you would have a free press, free speech and real elections. I don't really see any relevance to this thread.

First of all, the U.S. is not a democracy, it's a REPUBLIC.

Second, well...you're right, we don't have a free press, they're controlled by the leftists...

Third, umm...give me an example of the free speech one...oh wait, you don't have one, you just made it up...

Fourth, uh...what do you constitute as a "real election"? Oh, let me guess...when a lying idiot like Kerry wins...right? A man that says he's against outsourcing, yet most of his income comes from his wife's company, Heinz - a company with 90% of it's factories outside the U.S. A man that says he's against tax cuts for the rich, yet only pays 12% taxes, while everyone else in is tax bracket pays 30%+. A man that says that Bush's tax cuts do nothing for the economy, but make the rich richer, when he knows that allowing business owners to keep more of their money is good for both the economy, and the middle-class. A man that says we need a "fresh start" in Iraq, yet only suggests what the current administration has already been doing for months. A man that says Arafat is a role model that we should look up to. A man that says a 5.1% unemployment rate is "inexcusable" when his own party used a 5.4% unemployment rate as a sign of a strong economy in 1996. A man that can somehow vote for something before he votes against it. A man with zero integrity, that will change his position whenever he believes it will benefit him politically...

Yeah, I can honestly say I'm happy we won't have that man as a president...

[blizz]

I'm sorry but does anyone really think that the President of America is elected based upon their policies?

It's whether they've got any charisma or not. Bush has some. Kerry has got nothing but his hair.

Anyway, I predict Hilary Clinton to stand next time round.

[vampireuk]

First of all, the U.S. is not a democracy, it's a REPUBLIC.

Second, well...you're right, we don't have a free press, they're controlled by the leftists...

Third, umm...give me an example of the free speech one...oh wait, you don't have one, you just made it up...

Fourth, uh...what do you constitute as a "real election"? Oh, let me guess...when a lying idiot like Kerry wins...right? A man that says he's against outsourcing, yet most of his income comes from his wife's company, Heinz - a company with 90% of it's factories outside the U.S. A man that says he's against tax cuts for the rich, yet only pays 12% taxes, while everyone else in is tax bracket pays 30%+. A man that says that Bush's tax cuts do nothing for the economy, but make the rich richer, when he knows that allowing business owners to keep more of their money is good for both the economy, and the middle-class. A man that says we need a "fresh start" in Iraq, yet only suggests what the current administration has already been doing for months. A man that says Arafat is a role model that we should look up to. A man that says a 5.1% unemployment rate is "inexcusable" when his own party used a 5.4% unemployment rate as a sign of a strong economy in 1996. A man that can somehow vote for something before he votes against it. A man with zero integrity, that will change his position whenever he believes it will benefit him politically...

Yeah, I can honestly say I'm happy we won't have that man as a president...

Oh thank the heavens some common sense!

[AlphaWolf]

Ok enough being negative nancies. The election is over and now it is time to move on. Although unsuccessful, the democrats put up a good fight, and they deserve a bit of credit for being worthy adversaries. The time for division is over. We know who the real enemies here are, and its time for Republicans and Democrats alike to stop the petty bickering.

And I am starting to miss my old days of constantly stirring shit up and pissing people off for no good reason, which stopped when I started undergoing a more persuasive mindset. From here on out I vow to piss people off more often, only this time it wont be in a partisan nature, just the classic hippie bashing nature :D

[Moose Jr.]

I'm just glad we won't have to hear, "I'm __________ (insert candidate name), and I approve this message."

Good riddance to both of their ugly mugs.

[DuDe]

well done america.

not only you elected a damn liar who sent your sons and daughers to war over nothing. you managed to give him a clear lead with 3.5 million votes _and_ a majority in both houses which allows him to act out every law he proposes.

now look forward to more fear my friends and you young girls be advised that bush is known to keep his promises, so you might get the enjoyment of aborting your own baby with a coat hanger.

48% of america and the whole other world slaps their forehead while in saudi arabia, a few company meetings and a cave in afghanistan a bottle of champagne is being opened. :whistling
:rolleyes:

[linemu]

It'll be Ahnold vs Hillary in 2008. :D
If the terminator gets his amendment passed, that is.

[zAlbee]

pah. well it was their choice. the 51%'s choice at least.

at least miho won =)

[Eagle]

The downside to this is what people don't seem to realize. The nation is divided, more so than ever now. The Republican party now has the majority in the legislative and executive branches, and will soon have it in the judicial branch. The Republicans are free to pass any law they wish. Why is that bad, well nobody should want this, I wouldnt want any one party to hold the majority in all 3 branches, not Republicans, not Democrats. There are no checks and balances anymore, this could threaten the existance of our constitution and while it may seem unlikely, it is very possible it could lead to civil war. That scares me.

[AlphaWolf]

The only way this could turn into a civil war is if the democrats repeat what they did during the first civil war. It's a bit unlikely with todays democrats.

[Allnatural]

The downside to this is what people don't seem to realize. The nation is divided, more so than ever now. The Republican party now has the majority in the legislative and executive branches, and will soon have it in the judicial branch. The Republicans are free to pass any law they wish. Why is that bad, well nobody should want this, I wouldnt want any one party to hold the majority in all 3 branches, not Republicans, not Democrats. There are no checks and balances anymore, this could threaten the existance of our constitution and while it may seem unlikely, it is very possible it could lead to civil war. That scares me.
wtf...civil war? That's quite a stretch there. The lead in the Senate isn't wide enough to easily break a filibuster, so there's your check right there.

Besides, it's only two years before the entire House a third of the Senate go up for reelection.

[vampireuk]

Eagle you have a pm I suggest you read it.

Also the only reason there would be a civil war is because the dems hate free elections if their guy doesn't win ;)

[willljjj]

First of all, the U.S. is not a democracy, it's a REPUBLIC.

Second, well...you're right, we don't have a free press, they're controlled by the leftists...

Third, umm...give me an example of the free speech one...oh wait, you don't have one, you just made it up...

Fourth, uh...what do you constitute as a "real election"? Oh, let me guess...when a lying idiot like Kerry wins...right? A man that says he's against outsourcing, yet most of his income comes from his wife's company, Heinz - a company with 90% of it's factories outside the U.S. A man that says he's against tax cuts for the rich, yet only pays 12% taxes, while everyone else in is tax bracket pays 30%+. A man that says that Bush's tax cuts do nothing for the economy, but make the rich richer, when he knows that allowing business owners to keep more of their money is good for both the economy, and the middle-class. A man that says we need a "fresh start" in Iraq, yet only suggests what the current administration has already been doing for months. A man that says Arafat is a role model that we should look up to. A man that says a 5.1% unemployment rate is "inexcusable" when his own party used a 5.4% unemployment rate as a sign of a strong economy in 1996. A man that can somehow vote for something before he votes against it. A man with zero integrity, that will change his position whenever he believes it will benefit him politically...

Yeah, I can honestly say I'm happy we won't have that man as a president...


I'm gonna have to slam you here, sorry. Kerry is a douche. I didn't want Kerry. I voted for David Cobb. Find me a leftist news source (besides maybe indymedia.org), and I'll be in shock. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, TIME/WARNER, FOX, MSN, and others are all major corporations that have effectively paid Bush to ensure that they give very little back to the country that makes their buisness model possible, and sit more in the conservative side on every major issue. Their primary function at this point is to dumb down the populace with stories about J-LO and Brittney's boyfriends rather than to serve any actual news. The Daily Show (which is a comedy show) offers up a higher standard of journalism than any of the "news" shows that currently air like: Bill O'Reilly, crossfire, rush limbaugh, 60 minutes, headline news, and all the regular evening news shows on cbs/abc/nbc/upn/etc. Actually, The Daily Show is probably the only place to get ANY real news, left, right or otherwise, and it comes on right after a show where puppets crank call people. So yeah, the media is fucked, but not in a leftist way. Their corporate right offs smell a little laisse faire to be anything but a neauvo reaganomics, although I have no idea how to spell half of those words.

Here's a glaring example of how the constitution (not just free speech) is infringed, compromised, no longer a legal issue for fascists in this country to worry about: Right to assemble and right to free speech are often lumped under the crime "inciting a riot". Describe the right to assemble and the right to speak freely in any other terms, it'll still carry hefty fines and or jail time. Here's another example:
FUCK
What I just did is indecent, immoral, and illegal. Technically I could go to court for it, though it's not likely to happen because 90% of the population is doing it, so FUCK again.

"A man that says that Bush's tax cuts do nothing for the economy, but make the rich richer, when he knows that allowing business owners to keep more of their money is good for both the economy, and the middle-class." This idea ties back to "Laisse Faire" which is why the French Revolution happened, possibly the bloodiest peasant uprising in history. Need more examples of how that ideology has failed EVERY time it has been tried? Here ya go:
Pre-civil war economics: Laisse Faire
Pre-WWI economics: Laisse Faire
Post WWI German economy (and the subsequent rise of Hitler): Laisse Faire
The Great depression: The planet starved (millions literally) while a few key figures increased their net worth beyond recognition.
All of these things lead to:
WWII, where half the planet was trying to kill the other half so that people could afford bread.
The Reagan era: Laisse Faire (preceded the biggest stock market crash in history other than the start of the great depression, during Bush Sr.'s term when baby jessica was in the well.
The current dictatorship that came to power under a false election in the year 2000: The economy has lost more jobs than in all of american HISTORY, the deficit is completely out of control, our trade deficit is too, and all of our children will be paying for this indefinitely.

Simply stated: Laisse Faire doesn't work, never has, and is a very bad economic idea put forth by a few wealthy individuals who can use it to gain even more money and power, and live on parts of the planet generally uneffected by the ravages of war. Dress it any way you want, read some history, it's a STUPID IDEA. People starving on any part of the economic spectrum is NEVER good for the economy, that is until war finally breaks out, which is VERY good for the economy, but is that price really worth a few extra bucks in the Rockefeller/Blue blood accounts? Not in my mind.

The rest of your paragraph slams Kerry, who was in the same fraternity as Bush, and by and large is just as much of a douche bag as Bush is, except of course that he is not retarded and can form and finish complete sentences, something that eludes our current Daddy's boy. I think it's hillarious that the democrats would try to push somebody as unelectable as Kerry. What real MAN would vote for a guy who's had cosmetic surgery (barring a guy who maybe had half his face burned off or something)? Kerry is a douche though, I agree with the rest of your paragraph. The two party system is completely broken, this is NOT a democracy, and hence it's ridiculously hypocritical for bush to look in the camera and say "They hate freedom." When clearly he has NO interest in it himself (Patriot act and police state anyone?).

The only real solution is (maybe) IRV which will never happen because the same corporations that control BOTH major parties and all the news media will never LET it happen, they have way too much to loose.

PLEASE PLEASE, if you're going to at all address me in a political debate at least read what I've already written. Furthermore, you'd do well to study a little HISTORY, as all of this is a repeat of what's happened in other countries before, and to disastrous effect.

[vampireuk]

So half of your "slam" was bitching about the media, seems more like random directionless bitching than a slam to me.

[DuDe]

I'm gonna have to slam you here, sorry. Kerry is a douche. I didn't want Kerry. I voted for David Cobb. Find me a leftist news source (besides maybe indymedia.org), and I'll be in shock. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, TIME/WARNER, FOX, MSN, and others are all major corporations that have effectively paid Bush to ensure that they give very little back to the country that makes their buisness model possible, and sit more in the conservative side on every major issue. Their primary function at this point is to dumb down the populace with stories about J-LO and Brittney's boyfriends rather than to serve any actual news. The Daily Show (which is a comedy show) offers up a higher standard of journalism than any of the "news" shows that currently air like: Bill O'Reilly, crossfire, rush limbaugh, 60 minutes, headline news, and all the regular evening news shows on cbs/abc/nbc/upn/etc. Actually, The Daily Show is probably the only place to get ANY real news, left, right or otherwise, and it comes on right after a show where puppets crank call people. So yeah, the media is fucked, but not in a leftist way. Their corporate right offs smell a little laisse faire to be anything but a neauvo reaganomics, although I have no idea how to spell half of those words.

Here's a glaring example of how the constitution (not just free speech) is infringed, compromised, no longer a legal issue for fascists in this country to worry about: Right to assemble and right to free speech are often lumped under the crime "inciting a riot". Describe the right to assemble and the right to speak freely in any other terms, it'll still carry hefty fines and or jail time. Here's another example:
FUCK
What I just did is indecent, immoral, and illegal. Technically I could go to court for it, though it's not likely to happen because 90% of the population is doing it, so FUCK again.

"A man that says that Bush's tax cuts do nothing for the economy, but make the rich richer, when he knows that allowing business owners to keep more of their money is good for both the economy, and the middle-class." This idea ties back to "Laisse Faire" which is why the French Revolution happened, possibly the bloodiest peasant uprising in history. Need more examples of how that ideology has failed EVERY time it has been tried? Here ya go:
Pre-civil war economics: Laisse Faire
Pre-WWI economics: Laisse Faire
Post WWI German economy (and the subsequent rise of Hitler): Laisse Faire
The Great depression: The planet starved (millions literally) while a few key figures increased their net worth beyond recognition.
All of these things lead to:
WWII, where half the planet was trying to kill the other half so that people could afford bread.
The Reagan era: Laisse Faire (preceded the biggest stock market crash in history other than the start of the great depression, during Bush Sr.'s term when baby jessica was in the well.
The current dictatorship that came to power under a false election in the year 2000: The economy has lost more jobs than in all of american HISTORY, the deficit is completely out of control, our trade deficit is too, and all of our children will be paying for this indefinitely.

Simply stated: Laisse Faire doesn't work, never has, and is a very bad economic idea put forth by a few wealthy individuals who can use it to gain even more money and power, and live on parts of the planet generally uneffected by the ravages of war. Dress it any way you want, read some history, it's a STUPID IDEA. People starving on any part of the economic spectrum is NEVER good for the economy, that is until war finally breaks out, which is VERY good for the economy, but is that price really worth a few extra bucks in the Rockefeller/Blue blood accounts? Not in my mind.

The rest of your paragraph slams Kerry, who was in the same fraternity as Bush, and by and large is just as much of a douche bag as Bush is, except of course that he is not retarded and can form and finish complete sentences, something that eludes our current Daddy's boy. I think it's hillarious that the democrats would try to push somebody as unelectable as Kerry. What real MAN would vote for a guy who's had cosmetic surgery (barring a guy who maybe had half his face burned off or something)? Kerry is a douche though, I agree with the rest of your paragraph. The two party system is completely broken, this is NOT a democracy, and hence it's ridiculously hypocritical for bush to look in the camera and say "They hate freedom." When clearly he has NO interest in it himself (Patriot act and police state anyone?).

The only real solution is (maybe) IRV which will never happen because the same corporations that control BOTH major parties and all the news media will never LET it happen, they have way too much to loose.

PLEASE PLEASE, if you're going to at all address me in a political debate at least read what I've already written. Furthermore, you'd do well to study a little HISTORY, as all of this is a repeat of what's happened in other countries before, and to disastrous effect.

[MasterPhW]

The one with the most power, money and relationships won...
That's it, we can't do anything against it & and nothing for it too.
Only Osama and his family has done it, but who cares?
Hope Fahrenheit 9/11 Part 2 is coming to cinemas in the next time.
Today I will look Alien Vs. Predator... I only replace all Aliens with Bush and all Predators with Kerry and then should it be fun to look at this movie! :P

[2fast4u]

i gotta hand it to dude, hes giving the most qualified comments ive ever seen in a thread like this.

[DuDe]

If I had a bigger :rolleyes: smiley I'd post it ;)

[-Shadow-]

If I had a bigger : rolleyes : smiley I'd post it ;)

Ummm.. Dude ? How about using photoshop or paint ?! :D :D

[DuDe]

Meh, jaggies!

[vampireuk]

Bigger!!!!

[Eagle]

wtf...civil war? That's quite a stretch there. The lead in the Senate isn't wide enough to easily break a filibuster, so there's your check right there.

Besides, it's only two years before the entire House and two-thirds of the Senate go up for reelection.

Thats an awfull small check. Filibusters are long and drawn out and it takes a lot out of people. I can't imagine every bad idea that comes down the line getting a filibuster. Two years is a long time, by that time we could be in an unrecoverable spiral downward. It's not a stretch, I'm not saying it would happen overnight or anything, but some of the greatest nations in the world have ended in civil war and it could happen here.

[Eagle]

Also the only reason there would be a civil war is because the dems hate free elections if their guy doesn't win ;)

Vamp, you know nothing right? You don't even live in a democratic nation so how can you say that? I don't claim to say how your parlimentary government should be run so why the hell do you think that its all a game between parties. It has nothing to do with democrats and republicans. It has nothing to do with the elections. It has everything to do with law. Laws are passed every day in the US, and there are plenty of stupid ones that are rejected that either the democrats OR the republicans come up with. Without checks and balances there is nothing to stop that. If the democrats held absolute majority, there would be nothing to stop them from passing their laws, regardless of how dumb they are, and with the republicans its the same way. We need to parties for our system to be effective. Vamp I spent most my life in school studying how my government works, I'm sure you did the same for your government. If you want to debate our government I suggest you read up a little on the subject.

[vampireuk]

I know a lot more about the American government than you would like to think, I research before I post my claims Eagle. So you are flat out wrong in saying I know nothing because I quite clearly do. Perhaps I know nothing because my views are not shared with yourself? It's quite a easy way to shrug off anything by saying they know nothing :P

So you should realise that not only American's take a interest in America ;)


Vamp, you know nothing right?

Translation = I'm too ignorant to debate like a adult so I'll talk about how anybody who disagrees with me knows nothing :happy:

[AlphaWolf]

Find me a leftist news source (besides maybe indymedia.org), and I'll be in shock.

..CBS...


Uh right...CBS, the infamous news source that lost its credibility hard in a scandal when it spread a false report about Bush's service record in an attempt to derail his campaign and push a liberal agenda? Yeah, they sure favor Bush don't they...

You could use a reality check.

[Eagle]

I know a lot more about the American government than you would like to think, I research before I post my claims Eagle. So you are flat out wrong in saying I know nothing because I quite clearly do. Perhaps I know nothing because my views are not shared with yourself? It's quite a easy way to shrug off anything by saying they know nothing :P

If you research your claims then why is it that you so grotesquely believe that everything in the US is about Democrats versus Republicans and the rivalry between them. Again, what does this have to do with our views? What I was talking about was the dangers of a one party system in the United States and you start complaining about the Democrats being at fault if it happens and I find that offensive. That's like me blaming the british for every bad thing that happens, which is completely groundless.

[vampireuk]

If you research your claims then why is it that you so grotesquely believe that everything in the US is about Democrats versus Republicans and the rivalry between them

I have a sense of humour Eagle that I like to use now and again. Funnily enough you are the first American who has told me I know nothing, which tells me that you simply don't like what I have to say ;)

Also if you find something offensive on the internet I suggest this handy link (http://www.emutalk.net/login.php?do=logout)

[Allnatural]

Thats an awfull small check. Filibusters are long and drawn out and it takes a lot out of people. I can't imagine every bad idea that comes down the line getting a filibuster. Two years is a long time, by that time we could be in an unrecoverable spiral downward. It's not a stretch, I'm not saying it would happen overnight or anything, but some of the greatest nations in the world have ended in civil war and it could happen here.
Republicans have controlled both houses for the last four years, not counting that brief period after Jim Jeffords jumped ship. I haven't seen any shots fired in your civil war yet. Plus, you're going on the assumption that the Republicans vote in a block, which is simply not the case. There are some left-leaning Republicans that often gum up the works (Arlen Specter comes to mind).

Ugh, I can't believe I'm arguing at all. The notion that American's would go to war with one another over this is ludicrous to me.

[Eagle]

I have a sense of humour Eagle that I like to use now and again. Funnily enough you are the first American who has told me I know nothing, which tells me that you simply don't like what I have to say ;)

Also if you find something offensive on the internet I suggest this handy link (http://www.emutalk.net/login.php?do=logout)

Well if you act like you know nothing then I believe that you know nothing about our government. What I dont like is you twisting everything I say to something wrong with Democrats, you make completely baseless attacks and no it isnt humorous. Even Republicans don't do that outside of the candidates themselves. I wouldn't like what you had to say if it was against Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Libretarians, Green Parties, Socialists, British, Americans, French, Germans, Communists, or anyone else simply because almost everything that comes from you is simply not true.

Funnily enough you are the first person at Emutalk to really piss me off, and believe me its not easy to piss me off. So congratulations, I must be the last on your list. I know I'm not the first. I'm actually beginning to think that you enjoy making people angry with you vamp. I've never seen anyone on the internet or otherwise get into so many arguments with people. It's sad really.

[Eagle]

Republicans have controlled both houses for the last four years, not counting that brief period after Jim Jeffords jumped ship. I haven't seen any shots fired in your civil war yet. Plus, you're going on the assumption that the Republicans vote in a block, which is simply not the case. There are some left-leaning Republicans that often gum up the works (Arlen Specter comes to mind).

Ugh, I can't believe I'm arguing at all. The notion that American's would go to war with one another over this is ludicrous to me.

Yes but they were unable to gain control of the Judiciary. I know Republicans don't always vote in a block but it does happen more often than not. The same can be said for Democrats, they aren't any better. I know it sounds unlikely but it is a possibility, the russian Czars never thought people would rebel against them, the USSR thought they would never fall. I'm not saying its going to happen, I'm just saying its possible if we aren't carefull.

[vampireuk]

What I dont like is you twisting everything I say to something wrong with Democrats

There is something wrong with the democrats though ;)


Funnily enough you are the first person at Emutalk to really piss me off

Heavens to betsy I offended someone over the internet, I best cancel my connection now I guess.


I've never seen anyone on the internet or otherwise get into so many arguments with people

Have mouth will argue, obviously you don't know much about the internet if you think I'm bad ;)

Just remember that the democrats are the root of all problems in America today.

[Eagle]

Just remember that the democrats are the root of all problems in America today.


Yeah but somebody has to make progress, if it were up to the republicans would be living in a perpetual state of 1950's :P. Some would say the British are the root of all problems in America today. You would say they are wrong, I would say so are you.

[t0rek]

I would be happier if Kerry had won like most latin people...

[willljjj]

All of these comments are pointless, wrong, and spoken more out of emotionality rather than logic (except for Alphawolf's which took a specific incident and blew it up to be a network policy).

Here's the simple fact: Both parties vote as a block. That block is called do what the corporations who pay us and run the media want, and screw everything else including the American people and people in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY, the environment, the economy, education, infrastructure, health care. You name it unless Time/Warner/Viacom/Exxon/Enron/Disney/McDonad's/Pepsico/all one big company destroying the planet and it's inhabitants (people, animals, plants, name it!) is for it, it's not getting passed, and unless their not against it, it's not getting passed, and unless they actually coauthored it or have some pet provision attached, it's not getting passed.

There is no democracy, there is no republic, there is no free market, there are no personal freedoms or rights, there are no environmental controls, there is no health care, there is no welfare, there is no public works. There is simply a corporate bought system that we are consumer/slaves for. And it's only going to get worse.

Both parties are completely fraudulent, which is why the elections are always so close now. Nobody gives a shit which fuckhead gets elected because their BOTH fuckheads, and everybody knows it.

/edit Oh yeah, and Eagle, if you haven't noticed that Vamp's primary objective is to be a troll, than you are retarded. /edit

[vampireuk]

You would not be saying all that if Kerry won ;)

[DuDe]

All of these comments are pointless, wrong, and spoken more out of emotionality rather than logic (except for Alphawolf's which took a specific incident and blew it up to be a network policy).

Here's the simple fact: Both parties vote as a block. That block is called do what the corporations who pay us and run the media want, and screw everything else including the American people and people in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY, the environment, the economy, education, infrastructure, health care. You name it unless Time/Warner/Viacom/Exxon/Enron/Disney/McDonad's/Pepsico/all one big company destroying the planet and it's inhabitants (people, animals, plants, name it!) is for it, it's not getting passed, and unless their not against it, it's not getting passed, and unless they actually coauthored it or have some pet provision attached, it's not getting passed.

There is no democracy, there is no republic, there is no free market, there are no personal freedoms or rights, there are no environmental controls, there is no health care, there is no welfare, there is no public works. There is simply a corporate bought system that we are consumer/slaves for. And it's only going to get worse.

Both parties are completely fraudulent, which is why the elections are always so close now. Nobody gives a shit which fuckhead gets elected because their BOTH fuckheads, and everybody knows it.

/edit Oh yeah, and Eagle, if you haven't noticed that Vamp's primary objective is to be a troll, than you are retarded. /edit
Wow, you're a sad, paranoid little man.

[willljjj]

Wow, you're a sad, paranoid little man.

Nice going troll. Pathetic. I am sad though, who wouldn't be? South Park is a very accurate parody of our voting system these days. Oh, and little would be completely objective, and for the record I'm 6'3" 180. So come on over and call me little if you want, pussy. There, I rose to a troll and hipocracized myself in under 3 global posts!!!

I win?

[vampireuk]

I'm 6"1 220

I think I win :rolleyes:

/closed

[DuDe]

Nice going troll. Pathetic. I am sad though, who wouldn't be? South Park is a very accurate parody of our voting system these days. Oh, and little would be completely objective, and for the record I'm 6'3" 180. So come on over and call me little if you want, pussy. There, I rose to a troll and hipocracized myself in under 3 global posts!!!

I win?
LOL D00DZ I IZ BIG ON TEH INTARWEB!!!11
Not only are you a sad and paranoid little man, you're also pretty fucking pathetic. I fart at your general direction Internet Tough Guy.

[PsyMan]

Don't mess up with him guys, he may punch you through his monitor (net-punch) :P

[Flash]

All of these comments are pointless, wrong, and spoken more out of emotionality rather than logic (except for Alphawolf's which took a specific incident and blew it up to be a network policy).

Here's the simple fact: Both parties vote as a block. That block is called do what the corporations who pay us and run the media want, and screw everything else including the American people and people in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY, the environment, the economy, education, infrastructure, health care. You name it unless Time/Warner/Viacom/Exxon/Enron/Disney/McDonad's/Pepsico/all one big company destroying the planet and it's inhabitants (people, animals, plants, name it!) is for it, it's not getting passed, and unless their not against it, it's not getting passed, and unless they actually coauthored it or have some pet provision attached, it's not getting passed.

There is no democracy, there is no republic, there is no free market, there are no personal freedoms or rights, there are no environmental controls, there is no health care, there is no welfare, there is no public works. There is simply a corporate bought system that we are consumer/slaves for. And it's only going to get worse.

Both parties are completely fraudulent, which is why the elections are always so close now. Nobody gives a shit which fuckhead gets elected because their BOTH fuckheads, and everybody knows it.

Congratulations ! Mass-media brainwashing system has not affected you :D

I said same things about two years ago. And it's really getting worse.

It won't surprise me, if in next fifteen years the council of heads of large corporations will be the official world government.

Now corporate dickheads can change almost any law in America and next it will be whole damn planet Earth.

[vampireuk]

In soviet russia election f00k you!

[Flash]

Wow, you're a sad, paranoid little man.
Dunno if he's a paranoid or not but he's right. :D

[Gorxon]

Ok, this is getting stupid. Try to stay at the topic and don't attack eachother out of nothing. Rather leave arguments for why a person is wrong...

And willljjj, you better change attitude...you can state your opinions here, but that doesn't mean you can be an ass.

[DuDe]

Dunno if he's a paranoid or not but he's right. :D

Yeah, if you're living in the fucking Matrix. Wake up weirdos, there's no Big Brother, and there's no grand conspiracy. You have no one to blame for your incompetency but yourself.

[Flash]

In soviet russia election f00k you!

You're smart guy :D :D :D :D :D :D
I say fuck elections when there's no terrorism and everybody got a job :D :D :D

And now in America - Kerry said that he will stop Iraq war. No fukin' way !
If coalition forces will leave Iraq right now there there will be a perfect
terrorist's hive. It was very easy to start but not very easy to stop. But who started all that crap ? Bush.

[vampireuk]

er yeah right ;)

[Allnatural]

Ok, this is getting stupid. Try to stay at the topic and don't attack eachother out of nothing. Rather leave arguments for why a person is wrong...
How do you counter such mindless paranoia? What if he's right? I'm organizing a mass suicide right now...

[vampireuk]

/me falls off his chair laughing

I want to drink the kool aid first!

[AlphaWolf]

What I was talking about was the dangers of a one party system in the United States and you start complaining about the Democrats being at fault if it happens and I find that offensive.

Actually he has quite a point with that. If you think about it, the democrats made an attempt to tell everybody how bad they think Bush was, so they raised this huge hate campaign, yet they had nothing better to offer. What they didn't realize is that they antagonized larger amounts people who otherwise don't vote.

People like Michael Moore, Bruce Springstine, Al Franken, and every Tom Dick and Harry that ever believed in the "anybody but Bush" idea are what cost Kerry the election. They are anti-american for the most part, and most people clearly saw that, so they vote for the party that looks more pro American. Larger voter turnouts almost always favor republicans, and most people aren't even aware of who is running for the house or senate, so they just vote for their favorite party when they select those.

Moral of the story is like I have always said; never vote against somebody, only vote for somebody.

The anti-Bush crowd handed the GOP an even bigger victory than it could have ever hoped for.

[Flash]

Yeah, if you're living in the fucking Matrix. Wake up weirdos, there's no Big Brother, and there's no grand conspiracy.
You knocked at the wrong door. I don't believe in conspiracy theories and all that Illuminati/shadow governments stuff. But globalization with all it's bad and good sides is a real thing. And corporations influence decisions of the governments quite openly. All that software patents crap for example.


You have no one to blame for your incompetency but yourself.
Blah-blah. Can you fly a jet fighter ? Can you resolder BGA chip without special equipment ? I can. I can't brew a beer :D But it's remotely connected with politics

[AlphaWolf]

All of these comments are pointless, wrong, and spoken more out of emotionality rather than logic (except for Alphawolf's which took a specific incident and blew it up to be a network policy).

That is one of many incidents, albeit the biggest one. The only network that has ever favored Bush is Fox news. If you don't know that by now then you've been living under a tinfoil hat for way too long.

[Allnatural]

/me hands vamp a tall glass...

It's over man, the Matrix has us. There's only one choice... *slurp*


;)

[smegforbrain]

Well, now is as good of time as any to find a place outside the US to live...

[-Shadow-]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/bushuncensored.wmv

Bush has got good manners !

[Orkin]

Oh whatever...enough politics. My man won, the doofus lost...it's time to get back to what's really important...programming!

You all do realize it's not the multinational corporations you have to worry about it...no sir, it's the programmers...they're the ones taking over the world!

[aprentice]

i think we should invade india and fight the war on outsourcing.
the indians can't put out half decent code :P

[Eagle]

i think we should invade india and fight the war on outsourcing.
the indians can't put out half decent code :P


I'll get started on a program to destroy all of india's high tech computers............ah DAMN!

[DuDe]

Blah-blah. Can you fly a jet fighter ? Can you resolder BGA chip without special equipment ? I can. I can't brew a beer :D But it's remotely connected with politics
Ah, but my E-Penis is that |--------------------------------------------------------------------| big!

[ScottJC]

I'll get started on a program to destroy all of india's high tech computers............ah DAMN!
You mean their 486's? ;) shouldn't be too hard...

[willljjj]

You mean their 486's? ;) shouldn't be too hard...

Yeah, Win95 is REALLY easy to crash. Jesus, I didn't want to start a lame flame war with anyone.
:whistling

I was just pointing out the obvious: Our "democratic" system has been overturned completely by Mass multimedia corporations. One of the mediums is clothes, one is food (look at all the coke mcdonald's commercials!!), one is cars, one is TV, one is a magazine, one is the movies, and one is the packaging on every single one of those items. The forefathers never envisioned a way to counter this and allow for checks and balances and ensure our future liberties, and hence we've started losing them, and don't mind, because LOOK THE BACHELOR'S ON........

My canary in this cavern is hardly related in any way to mass suicide or conspiracy theories. WALK DOWN THE FUCKING STREET and you'll see it right in your face. Look around your room, at the viewsonic monitor, logitech speakers, sharp TV, microsoft mouse, apple ipod, linksys antenna, nike shoes, old spice deoderant motorola cell phone levis jeans van de camps fucking pork and beans. The constitution is not holding up under stress from the new mass production society, and it's media monster. The valuable things that our forefathers (who were quite brilliant) attempted to attain for their children's heritage (life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness), are all falling under the jack boot of starbucks, wal-mart, and cingular. It's not in the papers it's in the halls, it's in your room, and it's on your body. They won and we never even knew we were fighting.

[Orkin]

Say whatever you want, but don't bash Cingular...I couldn't have talked to my girlfriend on the phone for nearly 1500 minutes and sent and received over 100 text messages to her last month without it (am I obsessed? just a little). At least for me, Cingular is actually helping in the "pursuit of happiness" area...

Anyway, I'm done in this thread. I'll leave with some words of wisdom:
Always remember that too much self love makes you jealous of those who envy you.

[vampireuk]

Ah, but my E-Penis is that |--------------------------------------------------------------------| big!

Flash got owned :D

[vampireuk]

Well, now is as good of time as any to find a place outside the US to live...

I wish for once folk like you would use actions instead of words, I've heard it time and time again that people are going to leave the country and guess what? They never do.

By the way nobody can outdo me because I'm a space marine who shoots evil monsters and I have my own traveling orchestra to play dramatically inspiring music while I wade through rivers of monster blood.

[Allnatural]

By the way nobody can outdo me because I'm a space marine who shoots evil monsters and I have my own traveling orchestra to play dramatically inspiring music while I wade through rivers of monster blood.
unilateralist warmonger... ;)

[AlphaWolf]

My canary in this cavern is hardly related in any way to mass suicide or conspiracy theories. WALK DOWN THE FUCKING STREET and you'll see it right in your face. Look around your room, at the viewsonic monitor, logitech speakers, sharp TV, microsoft mouse, apple ipod, linksys antenna, nike shoes, old spice deoderant motorola cell phone levis jeans van de camps fucking pork and beans.

Right, and what is wrong with that?

If you really don't like it, then why don't you just strip the brand names off of all of your stuff and write your own name on it if it makes you happy? Or better yet, why don't you build your own TV's and ipods instead of buying them from the evil corporations?

[vampireuk]

My canary in this cavern is hardly related in any way to mass suicide or conspiracy theories. WALK DOWN THE FUCKING STREET and you'll see it right in your face. Look around your room, at the viewsonic monitor, logitech speakers, sharp TV, microsoft mouse, apple ipod, linksys antenna, nike shoes, old spice deoderant motorola cell phone levis jeans van de camps fucking pork and beans.

He says while sat on a computer....

[Allnatural]

Perhaps if every product we used were wittled from a piece of wood by two Amish guys in Ohio. Then willljjj would be happy. ;)

Wait, could two Amish guys be considered an evil corporation?

[vampireuk]

If they controlled the worlds supply of hand wittled products then yes

[Allnatural]

What if it were all non-profit? You know, because they just really like to wittle.

[vampireuk]

Communism? =\

[Allnatural]

Damn, it is hopeless. Evil Amish corporations vs communism. And either way all my appliances are made out of wood. :(

[smegforbrain]

I wish for once folk like you would use actions instead of words, I've heard it time and time again that people are going to leave the country and guess what? They never do.


Unlike Bush's war in Iraq, some of us actually grasp a concept called "planning".

But yes, I am seriously considering it. It takes time, and money. The latter, I unfortunately do not have right now.

I can only hope that I am able to move before I get drafted.

[Allnatural]

I can only hope that I am able to move before I get drafted.
Fuck! I'm tired of this draft lie. Yes, there was a draft bill introduced in Congress by Charles Rangel, Democrat from New York. The Republicans forced the bill to the floor for a vote and it went down in flames. Bush and Rumsfeld have said repeatedly that they do not support a draft.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041006-012158-2811r.htm

[Allnatural]

Ha! Losers... (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/)

[AlphaWolf]

FWIW there were 19 Democrats in washington that in some way shape or form endorsed the draft bill. There were zero republicans that had anything to do with the draft bill.

BTW willljjj, I challenge you to build your own computer out of raw materials, then tell me how a true socialist economy is supposed to mass produce enough for everybody to have without resorting to Stalinism.

[vampireuk]

Unlike Bush's war in Iraq, some of us actually grasp a concept called "planning".


Yes I can quitely clearly see how a man with 312 posts in a emulation forum could plan a full military invasion of a country.

Also as pointed out the draft is not supported by Bush, how odd that I'm British and I seem to knew that ;)

[2fast4u]

Yes I can quitely clearly see how a man with 312 posts in a emulation forum could plan a full military invasion of a country.

we all well know post count doesnt indicate qualification

/me looks at doomulation

;)

[smegforbrain]

Yes I can quitely clearly see how a man with 312 posts in a emulation forum could plan a full military invasion of a country.

Also as pointed out the draft is not supported by Bush, how odd that I'm British and I seem to knew that ;)

Once Bush finds another country to invade, he will have no choice - some in the Bush Administration have already said we do not have enough manpower in Iraq (which already numbers 130k), and other countries are reluctant to send their troops into the line of fire for our stupidity.

Our troops were sent in unprepared and ill-equipped. The planning on this was absolutely fucking hideous to the point that Bush tried to claim that we hit them "too quickly". Huh!?

We've got at least one unit of troops that refused to run a supply route because they didn't even have armor on their damn vehicles and they were being sent through an ambush zone.

So, no, I don't think Bush gives a flying fuck about our soldiers, and he's more than willing to let as many of us die as it takes to fulfill his little "crusade".

It's just a shame that some of you are too ignorant to see the situation for what it's worth.

And unlike some of you, I don't think the number of posts I've made is some sort of automatic qualifier. It no more describes the size of my dick than it describes my knowledge of world events, events I have at least some grasp of considering I live in this ever-increasing religious shithole.

[-Shadow-]

For all people against bush, here's the fitting wear for you :P

http://www.3dsupply.de/3d/shop/produktdetail.php?PID=00000552

[AlphaWolf]

Some of you guys act as if the president micromanages the military. Just FYI, this isn't command and conquer, and theres no battlefield control interface for Mr. Bush.

[vampireuk]

Our troops were sent in unprepared and ill-equipped

How so? The US military is the most well equiped fighting force on the planet, if you should be mad at anyone over lack of equipment it should be Kerry since he voted against it and consistently voted against the US military funding while on the senate.


The planning on this was absolutely fucking hideous to the point that Bush tried to claim that we hit them "too quickly". Huh!?

How do you know this? Were you sit in your Layzeeboy chair in the middle of the meeting insisting everybody hits double jump once they reach Basra?
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040607l.jpg

It's very easy for a arm chair general to sit behind his keyboard criticising, but could you have done any better? Could you bollocks.


We've got at least one unit of troops that refused to run a supply route because they didn't even have armor on their damn vehicles and they were being sent through an ambush zone.

Because of the money Kerry voted against, this is Bush's fault how?


It's just a shame that some of you are too ignorant to see the situation for what it's worth

Yes ignorant because I am not playing the role of arm chair general, I'm well aware of what is going on thankyou. It just appears to me that I'm only ignorant because you don't agree with me, nice way of trying to debate ;)

Now excuse me while I put on my tin foil hat as the Illuminati have been watching me for some time.

[vampireuk]

I also bet there is some idiot on this board who would think sending special forces into Fallujah is a awesome idea.

[vampireuk]

http://pics.woolnet.net/images/122890BHJG.jpg

[Eagle]

Heh, only abc news said Bush spent 250 million and Kerry spent closer to 350 million.

[vampireuk]

That's a hell of a lot of money to be a loser :D

[AlphaWolf]

You have to give Kerry credit that he was a man about it though. The moore crowd are being the little pussies that want to move to france.

[ScottJC]

France eh... nothing wrong with France; Can't believe people still care to argue the pointless debate about Bush sucking or not... it's over now, not that I like the man or all that rubbish in afgan/iraq... but He's in power for 4 more years so I have decided to judge his based apon his actions the next 4 years, also decided that theres no point moaning about the last 4 years now, they already happened.

Suck or not, Bush is here to stay, and theres plenty of other people to hate in the mean time.. what about Bin laden? Hate him ;)

[AlphaWolf]

France eh... nothing wrong with France; Can't believe people still care to argue the pointless debate about Bush sucking or not... it's over now, not that I like the man or all that rubbish in afgan/iraq... but He's in power for 4 more years so I have decided to judge his based apon his actions the next 4 years, also decided that theres no point moaning about the last 4 years now, they already happened.

Suck or not, Bush is here to stay, and theres plenty of other people to hate in the mean time.. what about Bin laden? Hate him ;)

I am not trying to argue about whether or not Bush is bad. Every time I hear somebody talk about that these days I just ignore the conversation. All I do is point out neo-fascism when I see it.

Michael Moore is a prime example these days, as I noted on another forum:


Michael Moore falls into a variation of fascism that has evolved into something that sounds more acceptable than classic fascism. If you disagree with him then you are a stupid redneck and everybody hates you, even if your oppinions are otherwise perfectly valid. Also Michael Moore is clearly racist against white people (in spite of being white himself, definitely not a first for a political pundit.) He also constantly uses propaganda, and he specifically targets people who aren't educated about politics at all.

[2fast4u]

i hate to poke that bubble, but calling michael moore a fascist or the likes is just as stupid as doing that to the republican party. its just primitive black and white thinking that is so widespread these days. want an example? most of the accusements in that quote also apply to the bush administration (e.g. using propaganda and targeting dense people ... bible belt anyone?). about being racist against white people ... i laugh :happy:

[AlphaWolf]

The difference is that Michael Moore has shown clear direction in that area though, the claims about the republican party in that area are anecdotal at best.

You don't see Bush saying "God says you must vote for me" or "(pick your favorite race here) are a bunch of assholes"

[2fast4u]

The difference is that Michael Moore has shown clear direction in that area though, the claims about the republican party in that area are anecdotal at best.

You don't see Bush saying "God says you must vote for me" or "(pick your favorite race here) are a bunch of assholes"

of course you have to filter everything moore claims, but then he _is_ a satirist. the problem is he is actually seen as a serious political commentator, which is far off. but neo-fascist tenedencies...where the hell did that come from?

regarding bush, he does say (and i quote): "either you are with us (e.g. the ruling party) or with the terrorists" and that god told him to invade iraq. in fact he _loves_ to appeal to that highest authority in his favor. that may be more the indirect way but it was the same core message of "god says you must vote for me". bush, like moore, also uses very simple reasoning to target the uninformed and uneducated person. really, i think bushs and moores methods are pretty alike in alot of respects...

calling people assholes is dick cheneys job after all ;)

[gokuss4]

The only thing I got out of this thread was people arguing over whether Kerry is a douche or Bush is a turd. :P And some paranoid dude that says the media is hypnotizing us to kill all for their products... :rolleyes:

It's all fucking over, no point in arguing. If you have a problem with Bush, plan an assassination attempt by sending him a bag of pretzels. If you have a problem with Kerry, steal his purple hearts. ;)

As for my opinion, Kerry is a flip-flopping indecisive hypocrite. At least Bush sticks to one thing despite him being horribly bad with English, at least he admitted he's bad with English. Bush has more balls than Kerry.. so I now come to the conclusion that Bush would be a better president out of the 2 idiots. Bush is the better idiot :D.

[Stalkid64]

And all went so well with that election... yessir, no cheating or strange occurences whatsoever. :saint:
(source: Slashdot as of right-about-nowish)

"I've read dozens of submissions about election anomolies in the last week and they show no sign of slowing so I've decided to post a few of the main ones here to let you all discuss them. The first is the Common Dreams report that shows that optically scanned votes have a strange anomoly in florida: the Touchscreen counties roughly matched up to party registration numbers, but optically scanned paper ballot counties showed strangeness like one county where 69.3% registered democrat, but only 28% of them voted for Kerry. Palm Beach County, Florida logged 88,000 more votes than there were voters; that machines in LaPorte, Michigan discounted 50,000 voters; in Columbus, Ohio voting machines gave Bush an extra 4,000 votes; in Broward County, Florida voting machines were counting backwards; Lastly, precincts in New Mexico gave provisional ballots that will never be counted to as many as 10% of all their voters." :whistling

Interesting stuff. Stay tuned for more... Tales... of... INTEREST!
No not really, but certainly worth debating.
(most worrying Futurama reference ever) ;)

[DuDe]

[Stalkid64]

Way to debate the facts there...

[vampireuk]

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/democrybaby.jpg

Both sides try to commit fraud during the election.


(source: Slashdot as of right-about-nowish)

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[zAlbee]

i move that pictures of babies NEVER be posted at emutalk again. all in favour?

[Stalkid64]

The slashdot coverage is valid, as is the report, the fact that CNN has reported the stories, as has yahoo, various newspapers of the non-tabloid variety... I'd go on but you're only into your own opinions anyway. Besides, I never said I thought the polls were skewed with cheating from one side because it's almost certain that both sides had a few tricks. The fact that the overwhelming majority of it does seem to indicate that there was something funny going on in the key states can hardly be dismissed as whining, as this very strongly affects the final outcome. Even if Bush did still win it comes down to these final pieces and gives an even narrower margin of victory. "Clear victory (and a mandate from) the American people?" (Bush's words more or less)?
Two percent is hardly a clear victory, and now it looks like being even less than that.
Unless you're suggesting we dismiss factual irregularities from a debate as long as the outcome also reflects your personal opinions..?

[DuDe]

When two percents are three and a half million people, I'd say yeah, that's a pretty fucking clear victory.

[DuDe]

i move that pictures of babies NEVER be posted at emutalk again. all in favour?
And I suggest that you don't tell other people what to post, and what not to post.

[vampireuk]

Perhaps a bigger picture will get my point across
http://www.vampireuk.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/democratspartyseal.jpg

[Gorxon]

Oh, how funny we are...

:rolleyes:

(was not directed at the political content)

[zAlbee]

And I suggest that you don't tell other people what to post, and what not to post.
have it your way then. but don't blame me the day emutalk turns into a warped baby picture posting forum :huh: . remember, i voted in favour of the no-baby motion! :alien2:

[Stalkid64]

Perhaps good advice for everyone. Moderators included.

EDIT: New news...
"Attorney General John Ashcroft announced he will resign, according to multiple news sources. While many here dislike him, others have more favorable opinions of him. He became the point man on the USA Patriot Act, which typically ignites harsh opinions on both sides of the aisle." Reader cnsc1rtr , referring to the AP's version of the story, writes "He gave Bush a five-page, handwritten letter in which he stated, 'The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved.'"

Right, well that was Bush's whole shebang for the last and next four years... now that's settled can we throw that crazy guy out of the White House? :P

[smegforbrain]

You don't see Bush saying "God says you must vote for me" or "(pick your favorite race here) are a bunch of assholes"

No, God told him to bomb Iraq though.

[Eagle]

Right, well that was Bush's whole shebang for the last and next four years... now that's settled can we throw that crazy guy out of the White House? :P


No we can't, there are still countries out there that we don't own.

[DuDe]

lol d00dz AMERIKKKA!!!!!1

[2fast4u]

maybe we can agree on posting comments that make sense and are related to the topic. moderators included. i dont care if you think this is funny.

[Stalkid64]

No we can't, there are still countries out there that we don't own.
Give George a few months... After all, he's pretty much promised to seek out and destroy ALL terrorist groups. When he gets bored of random invasions and remembers groups such as the IRA/Real IRA, can "The War on Ireland" really be that far off? ;)

And even more worrying, if we're allied to Ireland doesn't that make us his enemy too?
*Stalkid64 sees more of G.W.'s world domination plans unfolding...* :unsure:

[vampireuk]

Then the illuminati will come and take over the world and suck all your thoughts out of your head with a straw

A STRAW!!!!!1111SKFSDSDFKDSFK

[smegforbrain]

You know, I didn't think this was possible, but the new AG nominee, Alberto Gonzales, could make Ashcroft look good.

[Eagle]

maybe we can agree on posting comments that make sense and are related to the topic. moderators included. i dont care if you think this is funny.

I hate to tell you this, but the topic was gone a long time ago.

[vampireuk]

I hate to tell you this, but the topic was gone a long time ago.

Which is why we gave up a couple of pages back :P

[Gorxon]

This is getting silly. It's almost sad to see some of the posts in here...if you can't say something useful please just shut up...and if you're frustrated about someone's stupidness you do not go post posts as some people in this thread have done.

Closed.