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OMG!!! I hope that emulator authors arn't going to get sued by Nintendo of America

RJARRRPCGP

The Rocking PC Wiz
According to an older post, it appears that some Nintendo officials want to have
emulation criminalized!!! Some Nintendo officials think that emulators are just for pirating Nintendo games :(.
 

-Shadow-

Banned
RJABLAH said:
According to an older post, it appears that some Nintendo officials want to have
emulation criminalized!!! Some Nintendo officials think that emulators are just for pirating Nintendo games :(.

OMG noooooo paaaanic ! Argh !

/me deletes his complete rom collection + his emus Ó_ò



Trotterwatch said:
I've never heard of it anyways...

me too...
 

Azimer

Emulator Developer
Moderator
I believe that to be terrible misinformation. Just because Nintendo patents emulation of one of their systems, doesn't mean they are going to go after anyone who has an emulator for that system. From a business stand point, the damage as already been done and they emulators are already available. Now if they decide to patent emulation of their next console system, they definately can go after those who are publically making something similar. imo, it's nothing to worry about at all. :)
 

Jabo

Emulator Developer
Moderator
Nintendo and Sony patent every little innovation related to their systems. I'm pretty sure this patent was spawned due to those NES cards and readers you can buy for GBA. I don't think it was a directed toward the emulation community, I just think it was part of the technology so it got patented along with everything else. Sony probably has a similar patent for the fact playstation 2 can play the previous consoles games as well.

It's cool shit, so why not patent it.

Hi Azi :bouncy:
 
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Reznor007

New member
Nintendo's emulation patent isn't valid anyway. There were emulators out before Nintendo even applied for the patent, so I think prior art would rule it invalid.
 

smcd

Active member
If you read the patent, it is quite specific in its claims. [Begin Really Long URL]
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0&s1=6672963.WKU.&OS=PN/6672963&RS=PN/6672963
[/End Really Long URL]

To quote the abstract:

"A software emulator for emulating a handheld video game platform such as GAME BOY.RTM., GAME BOY COLOR.RTM. and/or GAME BOY ADVANCE.RTM. on a low-capability target platform (e.g., a seat-back display for airline or train use, a personal digital assistant, a cell phone) uses a number of features and optimizations to provide high quality graphics and sound that nearly duplicates the game playing experience on the native platform. Some exemplary features include use of bit BLITing, graphics character reformatting, modeling of a native platform liquid crystal display controller using a sequential state machine, and selective skipping of frame display updates if the game play falls behind what would occur on the native platform."


IANAL but the part about "low-capability target platform" is key here, it is going after emulators running on other handheld/portable devices, not emulators in general.


Another part to quote: (LONG)

"...method of adapting said computer system to play interactive games written for a handheld video game platform different from said computer system, said handheld video game platform of the type including a microprocessor of a second type different from said first type and also including liquid crystal display and associated display circuitry, said handheld video game platform executing any of plural video game binary images to provide interactive video game play, said binary images being at least in part incompatible with said computer system, said method comprising:

loading and executing a software program on said computer system;

storing, in said computer system memory, a binary image that when executed by said handheld video game platform provides interactive video game play on said handheld video game platform;

analyzing, with said software program, said stored binary image to detect whether said binary image constitutes a predetermined video game title;

converting, with said software program, instructions within said stored binary image into instructions for execution by said first type microprocessor;

implementing, with said software program, a state machine that emulates plural states exhibited by said display circuitry associated with said handheld video game platform liquid crystal display; and

generating an audio visual real time interactive presentation with said computer system in response to said converted instructions, including optimizing said audio visual real time interactive presentation generation for said predetermined video game title in response to said analyzing step, wherein the software program includes game-specific information that selectively changes functionality in response to detection of said predetermined video game title."
(ENDQUOTE)

Again, it is very specific in it's targeting. Once again IANAL(I am not a lawyer) but that is just my $0.02 on it all.
 
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RJARRRPCGP

RJARRRPCGP

The Rocking PC Wiz
sethmcdoogle said:
If you read the patent, it is quite specific in its claims. [Begin Really Long URL]
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...0&s1=6672963.WKU.&OS=PN/6672963&RS=PN/6672963
[/End Really Long URL]

To quote the abstract:

"A software emulator for emulating a handheld video game platform such as GAME BOY.RTM., GAME BOY COLOR.RTM. and/or GAME BOY ADVANCE.RTM. on a low-capability target platform (e.g., a seat-back display for airline or train use, a personal digital assistant, a cell phone) uses a number of features and optimizations to provide high quality graphics and sound that nearly duplicates the game playing experience on the native platform. Some exemplary features include use of bit BLITing, graphics character reformatting, modeling of a native platform liquid crystal display controller using a sequential state machine, and selective skipping of frame display updates if the game play falls behind what would occur on the native platform."


IANAL but the part about "low-capability target platform" is key here, it is going after emulators running on other handheld/portable devices, not emulators in general.


Another part to quote: (LONG)

"...method of adapting said computer system to play interactive games written for a handheld video game platform different from said computer system, said handheld video game platform of the type including a microprocessor of a second type different from said first type and also including liquid crystal display and associated display circuitry, said handheld video game platform executing any of plural video game binary images to provide interactive video game play, said binary images being at least in part incompatible with said computer system, said method comprising:

loading and executing a software program on said computer system;

storing, in said computer system memory, a binary image that when executed by said handheld video game platform provides interactive video game play on said handheld video game platform;

analyzing, with said software program, said stored binary image to detect whether said binary image constitutes a predetermined video game title;

converting, with said software program, instructions within said stored binary image into instructions for execution by said first type microprocessor;

implementing, with said software program, a state machine that emulates plural states exhibited by said display circuitry associated with said handheld video game platform liquid crystal display; and

generating an audio visual real time interactive presentation with said computer system in response to said converted instructions, including optimizing said audio visual real time interactive presentation generation for said predetermined video game title in response to said analyzing step, wherein the software program includes game-specific information that selectively changes functionality in response to detection of said predetermined video game title."
(ENDQUOTE)

Again, it is very specific in it's targeting. Once again IANAL(I am not a lawyer) but that is just my $0.02 on it all.

That's partly what this thread is about.
 

Reznor007

New member
The patent references VGB, NO$GMB, and SMYGB, along with MAME and SNES9x. By referencing MAME, that includes MESS(sister project afterall), which runs on portable devices like digital cameras and pocket PC's, which has a Game Boy emulator in it, which has been around since 1999(for Digita version anyway). Since the patent was filed in 2000, and MESS has been around since 1999, prior art exists, and Nintendo's patent is invalid.
 

ScottJC

At your service, dood!
Next thing you'll hear Microsoft attacking anyone who makes a program similar to Calc.
 

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