My reflection...

[aprentice]

Ok, i feel that I should post this to clear up some things and give people a better idea of whats going on here. I'll start with this, Me and Dominator arent against anyone working on the source at all like most people here think, after all, its not our source. You are simply misinterpriting most of our posts. We simply believe its wrong to take an emulator and not make any real changes. Its almost like taking 1964's source and making a few releases of gui changes. It doesnt really make sense. We are NOT stopping anyone by any means, we are simply suggesting. Emulation goes beyond the gui in my opinion, and if everyone releases their own gui changes, what do we get? We get a nice archive of the same thing with a different gui. If you are thinking about working on ultrahle seriously, then good luck to you. If you are in it for the fame and do not have any intentions of doing any real changes, do not expect me to respect you whatsoever. Sorry for anyone who got offended. This will be my last post on this board until the ultrahle2 release although I will continue to moderate this board professionally. Thank you.

[Tarikoo]

I agree with your opinion, its right.
But there were no more patch, hacked versions... for any emulator than for UltraHLE, in mostly of case for adding a more advanced configuration or fix know bugs.
And even if we can't get any emulation compatibility increase, a version including all these patch, know issues... is welcome.

And of course if UltraHLE 2 could really add a better compatibility, I will respect you so . In all the case, it would be great that everybody find a common way, to not get multiple versions of UltraHLE.

By the way... try to add Pokemon stadium (e) 1-2 compatibility for my little brother
(PJ64 not emulate Pokemon stadium 2 very well and my computer is not so fast lol)

One more thing I hate hacks, so in anyway, by adding a real correction for the games that previously needed hacks, you will add compatibility to the emulator

[Falcon4ever]

I agree 2 if for some people only the GUI matter then they should create a skin-system

[mesman00]

Originally posted by aprentice
Ok, i feel that I should post this to clear up some things and give people a better idea of whats going on here. I'll start with this, Me and Dominator arent against anyone working on the source at all like most people here think, after all, its not our source. You are simply misinterpriting most of our posts. We simply believe its wrong to take an emulator and not make any real changes. Its almost like taking 1964's source and making a few releases of gui changes. It doesnt really make sense. We are NOT stopping anyone by any means, we are simply suggesting. Emulation goes beyond the gui in my opinion, and if everyone releases their own gui changes, what do we get? We get a nice archive of the same thing with a different gui. If you are thinking about working on ultrahle seriously, then good luck to you. If you are in it for the fame and do not have any intentions of doing any real changes, do not expect me to respect you whatsoever. Sorry for anyone who got offended. This will be my last post on this board until the ultrahle2 release although I will continue to moderate this board professionally. Thank you.

totally agreed...that clears it up alot, as i know understand your point of view, and agree w/ it

[crhylove]

i look @ it more this way:

if your version doesn't do a whole hell of alot, then when uhle 2.0 comes out you're going to look like an ass.

i know someone who was on this path, and #emulation64 talked him out of it, and he then thanked people in #emulation64.

my only concern(s) are about source code (s) and their release(s). as the leaked uhle source would seem to be "public domain" given it's rather extensive exposure (for good or ill, we may never know), i think that all further uhle projects have somewhat of a moral obligation to leave their source accessible by the public. otoh, i can c how in a field such as console emulation this is a negative feedback loop given all the n00bs who will scream shit like, "x rom STILL doesn't work?!?!" so working on a project closed source (before a release) makes some sense.

i just think it would be a little ruthless to nab the leaked source and then put out your own uhle emu and not release the source at all merely because the code wasn't officially GPL'ed or some other OS liscence.

plus i think GPL code is plain good for the dev. of humanity....

rhy

[Tarikoo]

Originally posted by crhylove

i just think it would be a little ruthless to nab the leaked source and then put out your own uhle emu and not release the source at all merely because the code wasn't officially GPL'ed or some other OS liscence.

plus i think GPL code is plain good for the dev. of humanity....

rhy

true.

[David_Hayter]

Originally posted by crhylove
i look @ it more this way:

if your version doesn't do a whole hell of alot, then when uhle 2.0 comes out you're going to look like an ass.

i know someone who was on this path, and #emulation64 talked him out of it, and he then thanked people in #emulation64.

my only concern(s) are about source code (s) and their release(s). as the leaked uhle source would seem to be "public domain" given it's rather extensive exposure (for good or ill, we may never know), i think that all further uhle projects have somewhat of a moral obligation to leave their source accessible by the public. otoh, i can c how in a field such as console emulation this is a negative feedback loop given all the n00bs who will scream shit like, "x rom STILL doesn't work?!?!" so working on a project closed source (before a release) makes some sense.

i just think it would be a little ruthless to nab the leaked source and then put out your own uhle emu and not release the source at all merely because the code wasn't officially GPL'ed or some other OS liscence.

plus i think GPL code is plain good for the dev. of humanity....

rhy

Damn right dude

[Greevy]

GRANDPA: That Doll is Evil!!!!
MARGE: Grandpa, you've said that about every toy
GRANDPA: I know, I just want attention.


What's the point ? I don't know.

[RatTrap]

Originally posted by Greevy

GRANDPA: That Doll is Evil!!!!
MARGE: Grandpa, you've said that about every toy
GRANDPA: I know, I just want attention.


What's the point ? I don't know.

if you meant that to Aprentice you would have to read thru a few other threads that have been running a kind of missunderstood conversation about who has the right to what.. wich i doubt very much anyone understood..

this is a good way of making things clearer.. coz some ppl might have taken offence to some of the things that where said on that other thread..

[ShadowPrince]

I was thinking flaming from uhle2 team is over,obviously i was wrong,as now Rattrap joined to it .This is my answer to Aprentice post and some of more frequent things that were told.

Me and Dominator arent against anyone working on the source at all like most people here think, after all, its not our source

Thanks alot,i was thinking other way for a moment.

We simply believe its wrong to take an emulator and not make any real changes.

What is real changes ? U know ,it's funny to hear that from guy,whos responsible for gui changes in uhle2.

We are NOT stopping anyone by any means, we are simply suggesting. Emulation goes beyond the gui in my opinion, and if everyone releases their own gui changes, what do we get? We get a nice archive of the same thing with a different gui. If you are thinking about working on ultrahle seriously, then good luck to you. If you are in it for the fame and do not have any intentions of doing any real changes, do not expect me to respect you whatsoever.

What i understand from here,u're suggesting me to stop,but if i stop,u will not "respect me whatsoever",which is a real shame .
Alittle bit confusing.
And no,i not doing it for "fame",as u trying to make it to look.I sure u're part of uhle2 team NOT for fame either,
or NOT as one,who try to take credit for others people work in your team.Am i wrong ?
As for now,i dunno any Uhle clone,that supports zipped archives,and have zipped cache for rombrowser.So i really dunno what "nice archive of gui changes" u're talking about .
When uhle2 will be out, it'll be another story.

I did it with hope it will improve things and be usefull and did in fact put ALOT of work in it.Too bad i get flames from people like Aprentice ,bjz or Ratrap,i didn't wanted to see it getting so nasty.If u feel,that i offend u in some way,i'm really sorry.
Thank u.

P.S. Rattrap,seems that some people have very short memory.