to this date, i don't think there is an audio plugin...

[CLSugarman]

i don't think there is an audio plug-in that supports the surround features in games like zelda. only stereo sound. i know cuz i have a surround sound system. no surround sound. not really nagging, the audio plug-ins are great. just another challenge for azimer.

[CLSugarman]

is EAX or something like that out of the question?

[Reznor007]

Use the standard RCA sterep cables into the receiver, and turn on Dolby ProLogic or PL2 if you have a newer receiver. Works pretty good. The scenes in Conker(beach attack) sound really nice.

[Smiff]

Originally posted by Reznor007
Use the standard RCA sterep cables into the receiver, and turn on Dolby ProLogic or PL2 if you have a newer receiver. Works pretty good. The scenes in Conker(beach attack) sound really nice.

right.. if you're only using standard stereo cables (which is all there is on the N64 afaik) and you connect your PC in the same way, it should work? At least Project64's RSP should work... i dunno, haven't asked/tried.

[Reznor007]

EAX is not suited to this task. You would need to write a software Dolby Pro-Logic 2 decoder and output that to a DirectSound3D stream.

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CLSugarman. how do you connect your N64 to your sound system?

[Reznor007]

It should work the same as long as the emulated sound is somewhat close to the original. However, since a SB Live 5.1 or Audigy connect to a receiver using 6 RCA cables(leftright, rear left/right, center, sub) the receiver cannot use PL processing because it is already receiving a direct input for all the channels. Using DirectSound3D and a PL2 filter would work with this method, since the processing is done before being sent to the receiver.

[CLSugarman]

i'm not talking about hooking up the real N64 to a surround sound system, i'm talking about in an emulator. Zelda64's options in the Audio menu say HeadPhone, Mono, Stereo, and Surround. The surround gives the same audio as stereo. i'm saying in emulation not hooking up the N64 to my surround sound.


4 Channels have to be outputted instead of 2 using stereo. Isn't ProLogic II just for Stereo to sound better? I'm not entirely sure. I think DirectSound supports 4 Speaker Surround sound. I know Zelda64 is for 4 speaker surround sound not 5. Anyway, i'm just talking about in an emulator. That's the only feature i see missing in these audio plug-ins.

[Cyberman]

Originally posted by CLSugarman
i'm not talking about hooking up the real N64 to a surround sound system, i'm talking about in an emulator. Zelda64's options in the Audio menu say HeadPhone, Mono, Stereo, and Surround. The surround gives the same audio as stereo. i'm saying in emulation not hooking up the N64 to my surround sound.


4 Channels have to be outputted instead of 2 using stereo. Isn't ProLogic II just for Stereo to sound better? I'm not entirely sure. I think DirectSound supports 4 Speaker Surround sound. I know Zelda64 is for 4 speaker surround sound not 5. Anyway, i'm just talking about in an emulator. That's the only feature i see missing in these audio plug-ins.

Well carefully reread the posts.. they weren't talking about connecting the N64 at all..

The problem comes in where you need to take the encoded signal (surround is 180 degree out of phase signal for the center channel for example) and send it to the decoder (aka Stereo) as it would be recieved from an N64. Some sound cards break the signal already into multiple channels (IE more than stereo) and this is where you might have trouble. All I am doing is summarizing what they said for you. Unfortunately I suppose the connection was lost a bit.

Cyb

[CLSugarman]

oh, i must not have been clear. anyway, i get audio from the rear and center speaker, it's just that the rear left plays the same and the front left and the rear right plays the same as the front right. I get audio from all the speakers. I'm not talking about converting stereo sound to surround sound. I'm talking about emulating the surround sound features implemented in some games such as Zelda64 and Majura's Mask. I have a ProLogic II kinda thing. Creative includes ones. But thatz Stereo to Surround. I'm talking about the audio source being surround sound. This is where the confusion is.


Look at the picture, the audio is encoded in surround as well as stereo. The surround sound option works the same as the stereo option.