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    Would win98 run in nowadays fast CPUs?

    Hi! I was just wandering... how would win98SE run in latest-tech machines (talk about dual core CPUs)? I mean will it run at all? I always liked win98SE rather than XP or Vista, but never tried it on anything faster than a P3 500mhz...
    If it wouldnt work at all... then which would be the fastest hardware on which you could use Win98SE?



    Thx in advance...


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    I reckon it wouldn't work very well at all.
    Wasn't designed for dual core and lots of ram.
    But why do you want it anyway? It's buggy and prone to crashes all the time. Not to mention it lacks security. Unstable OS.
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    Would it run? Yes. Would it be able to use both cores? I doubt it. Those are just guesses though, since I've had neither the opportunity nor the desire to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomulation View Post
    I reckon it wouldn't work very well at all.
    Wasn't designed for dual core and lots of ram.
    But why do you want it anyway? It's buggy and prone to crashes all the time. Not to mention it lacks security. Unstable OS.

    I works just lije it would work on a Duron 1000 with 512 MB, nothing more, it sure installs a lot faster though, and i say of experience because there´s a lot of clients that still want win98 to run for compatibility issues with fiscal printers and other commercial automation hardware.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteX View Post
    I works just lije it would work on a Duron 1000 with 512 MB, nothing more, it sure installs a lot faster though...
    To my knowledge, using 98 a long time ago on good hardware BSOD when trying to use a modem, and maybe even otherwise. Totally unusable, if I remember correctly...

    ...and i say of experience because there´s a lot of clients that still want win98 to run for compatibility issues with fiscal printers and other commercial automation hardware.
    I would are say they have to get their act together and get them compatible for XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomulation View Post
    To my knowledge, using 98 a long time ago on good hardware BSOD when trying to use a modem, and maybe even otherwise. Totally unusable, if I remember correctly...
    It is unstable but it runs with hardware that XP will see as faulty, many times we go 98 because XP would not even install. (on older and faulty machines that is)

    On new hardware, we use it mostly as a "sales point" as we call it here, the cashier machine, because most hardware is still bound to serial ports and a lot of software is still DOS based, thus using serial ports on "user level" i guess this is the name of ti and we just can´t work with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doomulation View Post
    I would are say they have to get their act together and get them compatible for XP.
    Well, the hardware is regulated by the government and the software plays a huge part on compatibility, if the client has a long time winning solution and it is DOS based, we have a hard time convincing him to change, on the other hand most of the soft companies already leaped into XP age years ago using DLL´s to reach the hardware and making all machines XP capable.

    The problem is that when a clients PC dies, and they die, the dude will never, ever, change his software or update his printer to acomodate the fact that his hardware runs better on XP, he will have us do backflips to have his new hardware acomodate his older soft, printer, code bar scanner and so on.

    In short, WE got HIS act together.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy60 View Post
    Hi! I was just wandering... how would win98SE run in latest-tech machines (talk about dual core CPUs)? I mean will it run at all? I always liked win98SE rather than XP or Vista, but never tried it on anything faster than a P3 500mhz...
    If it wouldnt work at all... then which would be the fastest hardware on which you could use Win98SE?

    Thx in advance...
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    well first, most of the latest hardware don't have any drivers for 98. Some stuff are unsupported by Win9X technology.

    I actually installed Win98 on a recent PC at school, I ended up with no Network (undetected at all) and half the drivers missing. I couldn't install Nforce4 drivers (no win98 drivers from nv, starts from Win2K), I didn't have drivers for my MP3 players so I couldn't get any drivers in the PC. so half my devices were drivers less. Most drivers CDs today that comes with new hardware only got Win2000, XP, 2003 and Vista drivers on them. You need to manually go download the drivers from the net.... problem is most of the time network isn't even working...

    Another thing is the Win98 setup will often freeze in install. It froze at least 5 times on me, 1st time on the PnP detection, and the others at the end.

    Win9x doesn't support dual core/CPUs, so you won't get the full power of your CPU, it's also limited in hard drive size, I think really high size HDs wouldn't be fully detected.

    I wouldn't suggest you to install 98 on a system that is of the PCI-E class or higher. I think the Win98 "limit" would be the first Athlon 64 serie (even without 64bits support) , and the Socket 478 Intel series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckles View Post
    well first, most of the latest hardware don't have any drivers for 98. Some stuff are unsupported by Win9X technology.

    I actually installed Win98 on a recent PC at school, I ended up with no Network (undetected at all) and half the drivers missing. I couldn't install Nforce4 drivers (no win98 drivers from nv, starts from Win2K), I didn't have drivers for my MP3 players so I couldn't get any drivers in the PC. so half my devices were drivers less. Most drivers CDs today that comes with new hardware only got Win2000, XP, 2003 and Vista drivers on them. You need to manually go download the drivers from the net.... problem is most of the time network isn't even working...

    Another thing is the Win98 setup will often freeze in install. It froze at least 5 times on me, 1st time on the PnP detection, and the others at the end.

    Win9x doesn't support dual core/CPUs, so you won't get the full power of your CPU, it's also limited in hard drive size, I think really high size HDs wouldn't be fully detected.

    I wouldn't suggest you to install 98 on a system that is of the PCI-E class or higher. I think the Win98 "limit" would be the first Athlon 64 serie (even without 64bits support) , and the Socket 478 Intel series.
    Don't bother using Windows 98 with any nForce! Even nForce chipsets that were supported have performance and stability problems with Windows 98.

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    You're much better off running Windows 2000. It doesn't have near the same amount of bloatware as XP or Vista, is nearly as compatible (as long as you have SP4), is far more stable then 98, and is also more secure then 98 can ever be.

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