About programming languages

[pegasus001]

Well as you can see by the title, i want to talk here about programming languages. Here you may ask, post and do every thing you want, but you must stick to the rules. I guess that here are some very good programmers tha use c++, i myself use c# for now.
Ask n Post.

[bronxbomber92]

I don't know much about c#, I would l;ike to learn more about it though

I personally am using c at the current moment, until I get a fuller comprehension of classes and objects

Cheers

[pegasus001]

well with c the only thing you will learn is only structured programming, and pointers, and stuff like this.

[Doomulation]

What is the point of a common thread? All issues can be discussed in a seperate thread. As for C#, it's Visual Basic with C-style coding.

[Cyberman]

C# has nothing to do with programming style. It is managed code, also known as interpreted code. It's akin to Java, and requires a run time library to even work. As Doom states it's Visual Basic with a C++ venere pasted on. Microsoft has been pushing virtualization very hard of late because it's part of there scheme (scheme is the appropriate word too) to make inroads into the enterprise. To make it simple C# is a marketing gimick and not really much new. They can do things with interpreted language you cannot with a compiled one (big woopie there), there is however a large performance penalty.

I have used numerous languages, C# is unimpressive, it allows you to make applications quickly. However so did Qbasic and visual basic. Still they all are limited. I've seen people use such tools in the enterprise, and the only result I can safely say is 'it was fast to get there'. I can't really say much about the quality of said applications.

Cyb

[blueshogun96]

What is the point of a common thread?

I guess he wants his own sticky I think he's just trying to make a helpful thread.

Quite frankly, I didn't really care about C# when I first started leaning about it. I just it doesn't become the "the language of the future". To me that is a scary thought. C is good enough for me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is C# an event driven language?

[Doomulation]

Yes, it is. Much like Visual Basic. It's just a Visual Basic with C-style coding for managed languages. C++ can do Managed, but nowhere near as good or complete as VB or C#. If you want to do managed, stick with C# or VB, otherwise it's pretty much C++ for native.

[Toasty]

IMHO, C# is a nice language to work with, as it has access to the .NET Framework, which helps reduce time spent coding repetitive and tedious things like Windows controls. However, like Java, it is poorly suited for emulating much more than a Chip8 since it abstracts the low-level mechanisms that the programmer must control directly to achieve fast emulation. It has its uses and it does well with them, but one of those uses is not emulation.

Also, as a side note, C# (and any MSIL managed code) and usually Java are compiled at runtime, not interpreted, so as long as the language doesn't get in the way, they can achieve close-to-native speed.

[Doomulation]

IMHO Managed Languages are crap. I have seen numerous VB users who just like to Variants everywhere and screw up everything in their code. Is C# going to be the same?
Microsoft can shove the .NET Framework up its ass. It's a nice collection of classes, but relies on a heavy framework, is slow and comes at a cost of power. Things that you do in native (memory manipulation, for example) is not possible in managed languages.
And so again, C# language syntax is annoying, and it's just a copy of VB with C-style coding.

And whatever Microsoft says, I doubt any Managed language will get equal to or faster than native code. So it's compiled, so what? Computers are so fast today you won't notice it. What you WILL notice is the performance hit when it executes a block of code that has not yet been compiled.
And of course, the lack of direct manipulation makes it very hard for making emulators.

[Poobah]

So what are the principles of a managed language? I had always thought that it was just a buzzword to make Microsofts stuff sound more 'next-gen'.