is the new wmp 9 better?

[Lex]

I'm wondering if the wmp 9 beta is worth downloading,

suggestions please :D

[RPGlover12]

its pretty great i have a friend that has it but mine wouldn;'t install dunno y he said its really worth it

[Lex]

i've just downloaded it it looks muhc more better then 7 :D

[AlphaWolf]

its DRM enabled, just remember that.

[iq_132]

Format:
Pro.
Con.

WiMP 9 is a lot better than 7 or 8,
but it still has DRM
WiMP9 has a thing where you can control it from the taskbar in XP... minimize it then right-click on the taskbar, go to toolbars, windows media player.
but it loads very slowly
WiMP 9 has a new skin that goes with it's full sized one.
but it is a very bloated peice of software.

also there is a problem with playing certain MP3s.. it locks up or something like that: I think I saw a fix for that somewhere..

[ra5555]

Originally posted by Lex
I'm wondering if the wmp 9 beta is worth downloading,

suggestions please :D

I have been using it for awhile now, and it works great for my computer. Hoever, keep in mind that its a beta, that means it will contain bugs, and some people have reported that they can't play anything with it. Personally I would recommend it, but download it at your own risk.

Good luck;)

[Stezo2k]

whats drm?

It seems way better than 7, i still prefer version 8 tho.
It loads up the fastest out of the 3 tho, and looks quite nice tho :) i only really use it for watchin Divx anyways.

Stez

[blizz]

drm = digital rights management

I'm giving it a few months before someone produces a patch for it ;)

[Stezo2k]

oh well, guess im stuck with more ms crap ware :(

Stez

[crhylove]

why aren't you guys using winamp/bsplay? they kick wmp's butt!

bsplay is for divx, btw.

both progs are much faster, and produce better output (sound and video). and are free.

of course i mean winamp 2.80 std, not winamp 3 crap.

rhy

[Slougi]

WMP 6 all the way....

[Stezo2k]

Originally posted by crhylove
why aren't you guys using winamp/bsplay? they kick wmp's butt!

bsplay is for divx, btw.

both progs are much faster, and produce better output (sound and video). and are free.

of course i mean winamp 2.80 std, not winamp 3 crap.

rhy

hehe we know about winamp 2.8 being the best for audio (who doesnt know that) ill try bsplay, but i kinda like the interface of the newer WMP's tho

BTW: is there any way of getting a wma file to play that has been on someone elses pc? cuz it sux when u download rare music, and u realise its not playable on your pc, ive tried to it convert to wav with all sorts of programs to no avail.

Stez

[iq_132]

It isn't playable if they used the protection scheme built into wma 7x (?) and above. If it brings up a web page that asks you to get a license, then there are a myriad of things... UNFUCK.EXE, another one... I think DE-DRM or something like that. Also, Winamp 2.1 or something like that had a wma plugin with wav output enabled.

[Doomulation]

Afaik, just open the file on the new computer. A page will load up in internet. Click move license and be done with it.

[blizz]

I speak and then I find, the wmp9 codecs are out and about without the DRM btw ;)

[Stezo2k]

yep get them here

http://nic.dnsalias.com/wmfdist.exe

Stez

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by blizz
I speak and then I find, the wmp9 codecs are out and about without the DRM btw ;)

Bah, use OGG instead of WMA and DivX instead of WMV.

Ogg has been proven better than WMA, and DivX is getting there. Both are opensource and playable on any platform, and neither have DRM.

Not only that, but software is readily available to convert them to other formats if needed be.

[crhylove]

amen alpha, bsplay is for divx, btw, and it makes my divx look better than dvd, since i use divx on a comp monitor and dvd on a tv.

rhy

[AlphaWolf]

BTW, winamp comes with OGG support built in, so you probably already have it :sly:

[Stezo2k]

Originally posted by AlphaWolf
BTW, winamp comes with OGG support built in, so you probably already have it :sly:

yea OGG files kick ass :) they are really good quality and small size, i just wish more things suppoted the format (eg cool edit, Nero, Atomix)

Stez

[Stezo2k]

Originally posted by crhylove
amen alpha, bsplay is for divx, btw, and it makes my divx look better than dvd, since i use divx on a comp monitor and dvd on a tv.

rhy

why not run Divx on your tv if your geforce 3 supports TV out, thats what im guna do when i get a GF4, and also connect it to my dolby surround stereo :D (does anyone know if divx still supports surround sound)

Stez

[Lex]

Divx uses mp3 as audio compression and mp3 doesn't support surround sound, so only stereo ;)

[mesman00]

hey crhy, i use bsplay, its great, been using it for over a year now...i used my gf4's tv out to watch movies on my tv, it works good, but you loose some quality going from your computer to the tv, because the tv can't support as high as a res as your monitor.

[Stezo2k]

Originally posted by Lex
Divx uses mp3 as audio compression and mp3 doesn't support surround sound, so only stereo ;)

damn, speaking of divx why dont they use OGG format for the sound? that would cut down the movie size quite drastically

Stez

[iq_132]

1. It is really nice to see DivX movies on a tv :)
2. a. MP3 does only support two channels
__b. Divx movies don't always use MP3 as audio.
__c. AC3 can be used as audio in avi video... it just makes the files size a "little" bigger.
3. MP3 audio at a high bitrate (160+) sounds just fine on a Surround Sound system.

[AlphaWolf]

wonder if there are any formats other than AC3 that can store DD 5.1?


Originally posted by iq_132
1. It is really nice to see DivX movies on a tv :)
2. a. MP3 does only support two channels
__b. Divx movies don't always use MP3 as audio.
__c. AC3 can be used as audio in avi video... it just makes the files size a "little" bigger.
3. MP3 audio at a high bitrate (160+) sounds just fine on a Surround Sound system.

May sound "fine" but true surround is a hell of a lot better.

[Stezo2k]

yea definatly, i got a load of speakers round my room, and say if theres a car chase in a movie, its gr8 cuz u can hear where the cars moving, well cool :) even better with explosions u can really feel the vibration :D too bad bout the neighbours tho :P

Stez

[AlphaWolf]

Another thing is OGG always sounds every bit as good as a CD on my end at 128k, (I have a bose LS12mk2 with a digital connection to my laptop) its indistinguishable, comes pretty close at 64k. MP3 at 256k comes close but no cigar.

[ra5555]

Originally posted by Stezo2k

Originally posted by Lex
Divx uses mp3 as audio compression and mp3 doesn't support surround sound, so only stereo ;)

damn, speaking of divx why dont they use OGG format for the sound? that would cut down the movie size quite drastically

Stez

The main reason for most divx movie use mp3 as its music format is because the tools that are accessable by most people only allows this type of encoding, plus encoding mp3 will take a lot less time than ecoding OGG format.

[AlphaWolf]

With AVI you should be able to use any audio format you want. I doubt the commercial divx spec (.divx extention) will stay with MP3 for long though, remember that fraunhoffer is charging licensing fees to even the free players.