Attention: We've got a problem!

[Martin]

As many of you know, vBulletin is an expensive forum software. $85 per year or $160 for a lifetime license. The problem is that I can't afford a new license. I've got $5 left to live on this month.

So well, the only way we'll able to continue to use vBulletin is if you can donate some money for me to buy a license for. A couple of guys in #emulation64 suggested this idea and it never struck my mind. I was about to convert to phpBB but let's try this idea first.

How much can you donate? If you can/want to donate, you can donate to my PayPal account. More on this later. Reply to this thread please. Thanks for listening, everyone. :)

PayPal Balance: $47.15
Received Check: $31.00
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Total: $78.15

[Slougi]

/me checks wallet
OK, I could donate around 70€

[Martin]

Excellent! I'd say we aim for the lifetime license so we don't have to worry about things like this next year. :)

[Corak]

Maybe you should set up a paypal account for this?

[Slougi]

Check the bottom of this page ;)

[Ogy]

set up a paypal account, i will dispose myself of some cash... not as much as Slougi though (70 Euro ?!?! omg that's more then 60 US $ :!!!: :!!!: you're one rich fella...)

EDIT: ok saw the paypal sign at the bottom of the page... sorry

[Martin]

Great Ogy. :)

If we can't raise $160 I'd say we go with phpBB. I think $85 is way too much money to spend every year on a forum software only. There are so many other fees I have to pay anyway that you wouldn't believe it (server fee, domain fees).

Ogy: Any chance that you could estimate an amount and let me know? You could send me a private message if you don't feel like sharing this with the rest. :)

[vampireuk]

I vill donate around 40/50 euros....just need to find someone with a credit card or something for the paypal....if we do go through with this it could take around a week for me to get it since the job centre are turds ;):D

[Ruesselschnurps]

I could donate ca. 20€...but i have no Credit card so donating could be a problem...
I've got also a question: How is the bandwidth of emulation 64 paid?

[Martin]

Cool. :) Thanks everyone, we're getting there. :)

Ruesselschnurps: I'm paying a set fee for the server each month, and we're allowed to transfer 400Gb/month. As for the credit card part, you could do like vampireuk said.

[Ogy]

i'll tell you what, i'll send 20 US $ now, but if people will not donate, and the sum will still be far i'll see if i can scrape a little more...

[Ogy]

ok, 20$ there, lets see how this progresses.

[Jaz]

When I get my credit card, I'm sure I can find something. :)

[Martin]

Thanks :)

Problem is though, that to accept Credit Cards I need to upgrade my PayPal account to a Premier/Business account which means I have to pay fees on every payment I accept. But, there's an alternative. I will sign up with another PayPal account and make it a premier account with which I can accept Credit Card payments. Brilliant! :P

Ogy: I will decline the donation you just sent me and you can send to my other PayPal account instead once that's setup. OK? :)

[Josep]

i'm getting a job this summer, so 20 bucks from me could happen:)

[Martin]

Alright, I've changed the account on the Paypal button on the bottom. It's a premier account so I will have to pay a fee on every donation you send. Ogy: I've have denied your donation. Just send again through clicking the link at the bottom of this page. Thanks :)

Josep: Thanks :) I need the money within 9 days though. :(

[Ogy]

Done, is it ok now?

[Martin]

Yup, there we go. Thanks a lot. :)

Now I've got $18.92 in the fund chest. :D

[SquareSoft0]

Geez, I wish I could donate something..... (Only 14 years old) Do you accept Kupo Nuts?

[Stalkid64]

I`ll donate something if I can on Friday (pay day)... assuming I can convince my brother to throw the $10/20 on his card. It was going towards a new processor/motherboard combo but this sounds a worthy and urgent cause.

[Martin]

Everyone don't have to donate at once, take it easy on my PayPal account ;). Seriously though, thanks a lot to everyone who's even considering donating. And a huge thanks to everyone who're actually donating, you guys are the best. :)

Also, in case you haven't noticed already, I've posted a link to the ZTNet store where I will get revenue for every hotrod sold. I'm hoping we'll get a few ones sold so that we can afford a lifetime license. Check it out (http://www.emutalk.net/5036)!

[sytaylor]

would donate but im in the same boat as everyone else, don't have a credit/debit card, so paying by paypal is downright impossible, i'd send you a cheque do you could do it yourself but they don't work internationally... ask smiff... i mean what that guy does for a living is a complete mystery, maybe he has some moneys??

[Macca]

Is there any way to do it directly outta a bank account? Then i can give up some $$$

[Jaz]

Originally posted by Stalkid64
Friday (pay day)...

Damn that's right! :D

Payday on Friday! :happy:

[icepir8]

Martin,
I'd donate but I'm in the same boat you are. I work for the University of Pittsburgh and they only pay once a month. So my next pay will be to late. Sorry. :(

[Merick]

Macca, Paypal will let you set it up to use a savings/checking account. In fact, they prefer you to use a bank account...

[Lachp30]

1. I live in Australia
2. Im 13.9 years old
3. I have $5 AUS in my wallet
4. What the heck do you want me to do?

[Martin]

If you can't afford to donate then of course don't take a loan to donate. :P

Listen up people, someone else donated ($10) and I don't know who this mystery saviour is. Thanks though! :)

PayPal Balance: $28.23

We're getting there :)

[Lachp30]

Yay.....congratolations Martin

[Martin]

Originally posted by Merick
Macca, Paypal will let you set it up to use a savings/checking account. In fact, they prefer you to use a bank account...

Yup, Merick is correct. You don't need a Credit Card as far as I know, you just need to connect your bank account to PayPal. :)

[Ogy]

What the hell is wrong with you people?? get those $$$ out of your wallet.... c'mon... is there a more noble cause?

[SquareSoft0]

You can use bank account? I'll chip in 10 bucks, Kupo! Oh, how DO you use a bank account?:colgate: Oh, and this is $10 American.

[2fast4u]

sorry, but i can donate a thing right now. my finances are rotten :( and i wont be getting a job until this fall...

[SquareSoft0]

For Martin's sake somebody please tell me! He doesn't have too much time, and not much money!:plain:

[aprentice]

i got 50 dollars in ones but i need some of that for the strippers, sorry martin :(

Update: I got more money
Update: I bought a ps2 and a game
Update: I got more money
Update: I got a mem card,2 games, dvd controller
Update: doh

[Martin]

Originally posted by SquareSoft0
You can use bank account? I'll chip in 10 bucks, Kupo! Oh, how DO you use a bank account?:colgate: Oh, and this is $10 American.

Sign up with PayPal and read the FAQ's. :)

[Martin]

A lot of people say they don't feel like donating since they don't have a Credit Card, or they don't trust or want to use PayPal. In that case, send me a private message and I'll give you my address, so that you can send me a money order. :)

[Lachp30]

If your running out of spcae on the network or whateva the problem is, why dont you delete users that havnt left any messages in the last 4 weeks or something?

[Lillymon]

I think he needs the money or his board gets toasted whatever the bandwidth usage. I happen to have 1250 GBP in my bank account (I got it legally but don't ask how). I think I'll make a substantial donation. If only to make sure the NEmu and 1974 authors have one less thing to worry about...

[Martin]

Originally posted by Lillymon
I think he needs the money or his board gets toasted whatever the bandwidth usage. I happen to have 1250 GBP in my bank account (I got it legally but don't ask how). I think I'll make a substantial donation. If only to make sure the NEmu and 1974 authors have one less thing to worry about...

A little donation would be excellent :)

I don't know who picked up the problem as being bandwidth or server space related, but it's neither. The problem is that we need a new vBulletin license that costs $160. :P

[Macca]

Well its midnight now and i'm off to bed but tomorrow i'll set up my bankaccount with paypal and drop in a donation, expect it by tomorrow night

[Malcolm]

Originally posted by Martin
A lot of people say they don't feel like donating since they don't have a Credit Card, or they don't trust or want to use PayPal. In that case, send me a private message and I'll give you my address, so that you can send me a money order. :)

Im glad to see that you got my E-Mail :P

{Edit}
Just sent ya a Money order for $50 CND (~$35USD) should be there by the end of the week :)
{/Edit}

[Macca]

looks like i can't use my bankaccount with paypal cause i'm not in the US, if it is possible and i've give missed something, someone please tell me

[Martin]

Yeah, thanks a lot Malcolm, it's appreciated. :)

Now I'm awating two letters, from you and Slougi. :P

Macca: That's odd, I live in Sweden and I can use my bank account. :(. Well, you could always send it through a letter if you want. :colgate:

[Macca]

i'll orgainse a money order, can you email me your address martin?

macca@emulation64.com

thanks

[Hottoast]

$20 on its way hope it helps.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Hottoast
$20 on its way hope it helps.

Thanks a lot Hottoast, it's greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:

PayPal Balance: $47.15

[Eagle]

How much do you need total?

EDIT: Nevermind :P

[aprentice]

Originally posted by Eagle
How much do you need total?

EDIT: Nevermind :P

Pay attention man, he said it a million times, 160! :P

[gokuss4]

Originally posted by aprentice


Pay attention man, he said it a million times, 160! :P

/me looks in his wallet, a moth and a bat come flying out.

nope me dont have money :P

[crhylove]

paypal is a pain to sign up for i can't stand passwords over 6 digits long.... i'll never remember my new one.... oh yeah, and here's $10....whenever i get this stupid paypal confirm letter....

btw. there's gotta be 16 people on here that can pay $10 and if there isn't then the other of you all suck!

sorry, but my industry (drug traficking) has been hit badly by the crap economy instigated (in a typical fashion) by our latest republican moron. otherwise i pitch in more!

i apologize again, i voted nader!

[crhylove]

wtf? is your paypal name so i can send you money?

[Stalkid64]

Well, contrary to the claims of eBay and quite a few other places, paypal does not accept my type of card (bastards...)
I`ll try convince my brother to throw a donation on his card. Probably just $10-20 (paid less than expected - bastards...), but hopefully it`ll be worthwhile.:emutalk:

[Martin]

martin@emutalk.net

Just click the little button on the bottom of this page. :)

Thanks. :P

[Martin]

Received a check in the mail today, I updated the first post. Thanks. :)

[Martin]

Help me with the math, this can't be correct. :!!!:

Emutalk has on average about 3000 unique visitors per day; 3000 different people browse it every day (well, even more if you count in that some might have multiple personalities.). 4 of these care enough to keep vBulletin (so far anyway). Roughly, 99,867% of our visitors would rather use some other board software, or they don't care enough to keep vBulletin or don't have any money to donate.

That's interesting. Let's go with WWWThreads (http://www.zophar.net/wwwthreads/wwwthreads.php), shall we? It would mean a lot less server load and it would save a lot of bandwidth. And it's free! Excellent! :colgate:

I did some more calculating and discovered that I have paid $1400 in server fees since August last year when I got the server. That might be peanuts to you, but I'm a college student and don't have a ton of green, so it's a huge amount to me. Advertising has paid some of that money, but far from all. Maybe half of it, a little less probably. But I'm not complaining, I love this hobby and I'm glad to pay for it.

My point is that I have never begged you for money until now. And when I do, 0,133% of you care enough to do something about it. :plain2:

[Malcolm]

WWWThreads looks like crap, Email me if you want more cash Marty

[SquareSoft0]

???Pay Pal won't let me use my bank account, I'm using a Bank Of America account, it's the most popular banking service in America!!! Kupo!!! (Wells Fargo is 2nd for you WF users:P )

[Martin]

No Malcolm, you've done your fair part. :)
Bought the vBulletin license, btw.

[Martin]

I'm quite let down by the results of this donation. :(
Thanks to those of you who obviously care though - the few of you who donated. My respect goes out to you.

I'm closing this thread as we're evidently heading nowhere. I will unstick it and remove my announcement as well.

In case you missed it already, I ordered the "own license" for $160 the other day, here's a link in case you doubt that I used the donations for the license:

http://www.vbulletin.com/links.php?catid=2