XBox `Sales` Figures..

[Jaz]

*lol* Still only 190k of the available 250k sold in the UK.. ;)

[vampireuk]

That has to be embarassing for Microsoft after all the hype they have put into this:D

[blizz]

LOL, my heart bleeds :devil:

[sk8bloke22]

thank god for that. nah i reckon things well get better when a price drop is announced/implemented. but by then the cube will be unleashing all its goodness.

its not doing well in japan either. theres no innotive, super monkey ball sorta titles at all as far as im aware of to please the japenese audience. those crazy japs dont get excited about fps (halo)like westerners do.

[B*A*G*G]

i dont blame them japs, i was'nt to impressed with halo either, too american for my tastes.
DOA3 smokes anything else out there (terms of graphics). so japan shouldnt complain to much

[blizz]

yeah it's rumoured that Nintendo is going to match the price drop Sony does for the PS2 :o

[Jaz]

Whoa, sweet! ;)

[Josep]

sounds good, when is this price drop rumored to happen? anyone know?:) even tho i'll probably end up getting x-box;)

[sytaylor]

people pay far too much attention to the first few months of a consoles life, when really it means didly squat, its the 6 - 18 month period when you get to see if the ads are paying off and wether or not joe public wants the new box or not

[2fast4u]

Originally posted by Josep
sounds good, when is this price drop rumored to happen? anyone know?:) even tho i'll probably end up getting x-box;)

bah, no way in hell im getting this ugly piece of &$#^ ! i have a pc, what would i need with a 'box? that just makes no sense.

[sytaylor]

to me it depends which way sega swing, cos they seem to be pretty platform independant right now, but as console wars wage on the big houses always take sides, and to be honest nintendo are looking quite good, ESPECIALLY if they can get some killer apps like VF4 converted

[Jaz]

Sega seem to be backing Ninty quite well at the moment.. Especially since the announcement of the Sega/Nintendo arcade board project.. :D

[sytaylor]

sega nintendo AND namco, dubbed the triforce (subtle zelda reference), nintendo may well be positioning themselves for some excellent arcade to home convertions! The quick fix games are something ninty have always missed out on and this could be great for them, namco and sega developing for you a number of exclusive titles is a helluva boost!

[Stalkid64]

I can picture Xboxes filling the bargain bins in an year or so tops. Apparently the boxes from the 190k sold went into building low-cost housing for homeless people.. Each box is the equivalent of a luxury mansion for a homeless person.

[Davemc]

bargain bins?

how would they fit in them?

need massive skips to put them in

[Josep]

hehe, well until they find a way to be able to play x-box games on the comp, then we'll see 2fast;) CAUSE damn, some bomb games are coming out for x-box, and technically, wouldn't x-box not really be EMULATED so to speak on a comp, then what would it be on a comp?

[Raging Fuel]

The Xbox has been out here for a bit over a month and I haven't heard jack about it in the media. There have been lots of ads for it, but none of the newspapers/mags have mentioned anything about it since it launched (they didn't even mention anything when it was launched), so i really have no idea how well its going. I might check out the stats, just for a laugh.

[Eagle]

XBox `Sales` Figures..

How can a product have figures for something it never does.

[Raging Fuel]

Here's some info about Xbox 'sales' in Oz.

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,3993350%5e15329%5e%5enbv%5e15306-15317,00.html

[Macca]

yeh that says they sold 10,000 in the first four days but i can understand that with all of the advertising they have done down here! it was and is stiil here everywhere, thats the only thing that will hold gc back, i haven't seen any advertising down here for it. it is like M$ is trying to brainwash Austrialians with their advertising :(

[Raging Fuel]

The next week they sold a bit over 3000, while the PS2 sold over 7000. And they were also expecting to sell between 20,000-30,000 in the first week, so less than 10k is pretty crap.

[Macca]

From http://nintendo.com.au/misc/special.html

"After its phenomenal US success, demand for Nintendo GameCube in Australia is huge. And with only 50,000 pieces of GameCube hardwarew available at launch, some hardcore gamers may miss out. To ensure you have a Nintendo GameCube on day one (as any true gamer must), place a deposit now to reserve yours from your favourite retailer."


someone has high expectations :P good on nintendo i say and i hope they sell them all :)

[Stalkid64]

<-----hopes so too since he made the very first UK preorder at Dixons/Currys (!)
(Just to rub it in for anyone who now probably won`t get their `Cube on May 3rd... mwuhahaha :P)

[Macca]

3rd??? that smells...i can't play it till fuel gets his on the 17th :P

[Doomulation]

Just to enlighted you up:
In a magazine about tv-games and stuff, they made a vote for all the users. The poll was: "How many of you have decided to buy an X-Box or not?"
Do you know what they answered? :P It's pretty funny:

15%: Don't know.
15%: Yes.
70%: No!!!

And why did they say no? 'Cuz it was MS! :o :satisfied
Now isn't that funny? I think MS has too much reputation to sell well :D

[blizz]

another problem M$ have had is not providing a high enough profit for retailers :o

[sk8bloke22]

i still think it will sell well eventually. dunno whym but i dont reckon its gonna flop like the 3d0 or Jaguar did as it does hav some quality games, plus some further quality games on the way. and it has graphics that really do kick arse.

[Remote]

Very true, I talked to a friend in the vendor buisness the other day about the X-Box. They are forced to keep them as low as possible, they only add a couple of procents due to the already high price. It costs +450 US dollars in Sweden and at the shop my freind works for they have only solded #2 units since the launch, compared to maybe 5 PS2 units during the same time intervall... Both consoles are expensive in Sweden but there is still a 190 US dollar gap between them, not sure if that is the exact figure but it's along those lines... The posibility of them not becoming the kings of the console industry amuses me, the X-Box won't flop but it won't conquer the industry...

[Stalkid64]

Originally posted by sk8bloke22
i still think it will sell well eventually. dunno whym but i dont reckon its gonna flop like the 3d0 or Jaguar did as it does hav some quality games, plus some further quality games on the way. and it has graphics that really do kick arse.
The Jag` had/has some superb games. Doom, AVP, that robot game whose name I forget, Syndicate, and of course the incredibly addictive Tempest 2000. Er, which I`m playing right now as it happens (Damn eBay and its money-wasting potential!).. well, not while typing this obviously...
Even the 3DO had the strangely compelling Need for Speed.
The Xbox has... Halo. And then there`s... well, let me see now, there`s... uh... hmm...

[Jaz]

Aaaaand Jag games (well, the one) are still in production today! Check out http://www.battlesphere.com/ for more info! :D

[Josep]

wait, i haven't catched up on what everyone is talking about, BUT, techinically speaking, couldn't x-box games run on a regular pc, and if they can't, why not?! i know they can't right now, but ya know what i mean;)

[Jaz]

*lol* Read the posts first, d00d.. ;)

[blizz]

Originally posted by Josep
wait, i haven't catched up on what everyone is talking about, BUT, techinically speaking, couldn't x-box games run on a regular pc, and if they can't, why not?! i know they can't right now, but ya know what i mean;)

under an emu yes, although the cpu is widely documented the graphics chip is significantly different to warrent an emulator, there is also the modified hd etc... it's effectively a significantly modified PC

[Jaz]

This kid knows his stuff.. ;)

[sk8bloke22]

Originally posted by Stalkid64

The Jag` had/has some superb games. Doom, AVP, that robot game whose name I forget, Syndicate, and of course the incredibly addictive Tempest 2000. Er, which I`m playing right now as it happens (Damn eBay and its money-wasting potential!).. well, not while typing this obviously...
Even the 3DO had the strangely compelling Need for Speed.
The Xbox has... Halo. And then there`s... well, let me see now, there`s... uh... hmm...

ok stalkid i think uve actually named all the decent jaguar games. the jaguaur was just shite. the xbox has DOA3, which may not be as good as virtua fighter 3 in terms of gameplay, its still pretty good, and is simply enuff to please simple-minded button bashing fans. project gotham isnt too bad eithe, its not incredible, but its not bad. plus with sega on its side (although sega seems to be shifting from console to console) u know u r gonna get a crop of good games. put it this way i would rather hav an xbox than a jaguar :D

[Jaz]

I think I'd rather the Jags god-awful control pad than the 'Box's though.. :P

[blizz]

I'd rather have a napalm enema than a jaguar :P

[Jaz]

*ROTFLMFAO* :D

[sk8bloke22]

haha, it had like over 20 buttons. i never understood that. its weird in london electronique boutiques they r on sale for like £25 and games like a £10 each.

[Raging Fuel]

Its seems that the only place that the Xbox is selling well is the US. That's probably enough for M$ to call it a 'success'. It will not go away for a long time anyway, even if no one buys it. M$ have enough money to keep trying at this. The Xbox can completely bomb, this gen and following gens, but it will still be there because M$ have the money to support it.

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by blizz
another problem M$ have had is not providing a high enough profit for retailers :o

if M$ are expecting profit from the console they got antoher thing coming, games are what make the money, the boxes usually make a loss

[adi]

the only reason I'd buy an xbox was if I didn't have a reasonably fast pc, but right now I don't see any clearcut reason to get it.
Halo sure looks good but I guess I'm old fashioned in believing that fps work best on the pc and pc only (unless you count multiplayer goldeneye etc). And while DOA3 looks pretty as well, gameplay-wise Tekken beats it hands down.

Maybe my opinion will change if the price does drop and metal gear x comes out for it, but right now I'd much rather have a gamecube.

[Harteex]

You should buy an Xbox if you hadn't a good computer... why? Xbox is a console and a PC is... a PC. You do different stuff with them.

[Tri-Force]

well right now my PC happens to run several Console games as well as PC games. plus i can surf the net or chat or even listen to music while doing any of the things mentioned ALL AT THE SAME TIME. plus you can burn CD's and watch DVD's AND download all the crap you could ever need. so yah a PC can be modified to be a N64 or a GBA or a NES or SNES or even a frickin Speak and Spell (remember those things) but a PS2 will never let me use AOL and thats just a fact.

[Stalkid64]

"a PS2 will never let me use AOL and thats just a fact."
You say that as if it were a bad thing... ;)

(Okay, couldn`t resist such an easy go at AOL...)

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by theacj
And while DOA3 looks pretty as well, gameplay-wise Tekken beats it hands down.


Tekken can kiss my ass, the biggest thing happening in may in the uk is the VF4 realease (game wise)

[blizz]

VF4

/me drools

[Jaz]

Virtua Fighter was always the best fighting game..

But now it's KNOWN to be the best fighting game because it's on PS2.. :P

Which is wrong.. :P

[blizz]

me likes Garou Mask of the Wolves

[B*A*G*G]

even tho namco is doing a sweet port of tekken 4 to the ps2,
i still think soul calibur 2 should be their first priority.
im kinda getting sick of tekken fights anyway.
besides tekken2 is allready emulated, thats all i'll ever need

[blizz]

hehe Soul Calibur on Gamecube :D

[sk8bloke22]

vf3 is good, but the graphics on the ps2 are a bit of a let down. the lack of any software implemented anti-anailasiing (spelling?) makes the jaggies show like mad...although my full-pin scart lead does seem to show the jaggies more with the sharper image. still, with such detailed textures, etc, sega could hav added some software anti-analaising..

[blizz]

I think the speed hit for software anti-aliasing would have been too great, besides there's an X-Box port coming.

[B*A*G*G]

i think sega gave it their best, they new from the start that they would have to make sacrifices. but its a no brainer that the xbox would be a more ideal system for porting the mad power of NAOMI 2.

[rob in london]

the jaguar had two games that deserved more than the crappy exposure they got from a console that flopped, tempest 2000 and defender 2000, both coded by the same genuis. but you need quantity and quality of games to sell your console, and lets face it microsofts games have always been a bit shit, so i think its success will depend on wether they can persuade sega and namco... etc to put out games for them instead of anyone else. personaly i hope they side with sony/nintendo. making it ugly and combersome cant have done them any favours either, what were they thinking??

[sytaylor]

Originally posted by Jaz
Virtua Fighter was always the best fighting game..

But now it's KNOWN to be the best fighting game because it's on PS2.. :P

Which is wrong.. :P

damn skippy, virtua fighter 2 on the saturn OWNED tekken, and yet nobody bought it, bloody idiots!:angry: so if people actually buy this, give it a chance and realise what theyve been missing then maybe, juuuuust maybe the real best fighting game ever will be known for it :D

and sk8bloke whats with all the mention of vf3? that game is from 1996!

[adi]

yeah i know what you mean rob about the ps2's graphics. on a big TV their flaws become even more apparent. I hope the gamecube has decent AA as its the only console I can afford :( and is MGS2 the only game to utilise the digital output in the ps2? I just found out it had an 'enable dolby digital 5.1 option'

and sorry sy, but I prefer tekken to virtua fighter anyday. however soul caliburs a whole different story....... and was I the only one who found bloody roar really entertaining?

[B*A*G*G]

Originally posted by theacj
....... and was I the only one who found bloody roar really entertaining?
um......yes i think you were

[sk8bloke22]

ps2 has the worst jaggy problem ever in practically all games. itsj ust the regular scart lead (not rgb) blurs the image a bit so u cant see them, which is wat gives the grainy look. when i first used my full pinned scart lead i noticed how poor at times ps2 graphics really were, mainly due to a lack of hardware anti-analiasing, even the dreamcast had some form of this.

[Jaz]

Interesting, this months CVG Magazine (UKer's only methinks), has a few pages on the Tekken vs Virtua Fighter saga.. :)

[Josep]

whoa, dammit, everyone left what i was talking about like 20 posts ago;) hehe, I've heard that people have made the HD from a x-box work on a regular pc perfectly fine, i dunno if that makes a diff from what blizz said, BUT, does x-box run on some sort of OS or something? you can tell i don't know jack about x-box;)

[Harteex]

I'm almost sure it's a modified Win2k kernel...