Snes9x 1.5 released!

[Clements]

Snes9x was updated recently and is available from ipher's mirror:

http://ipherswipsite.com/

Note that the Windows Port of Snes9x is no longer maintained, so the emulator is now Linux and Mac only. For the Windows version of Snes9x, try using Snes9x 1.43 improvement9 instead.

Changes:

* Pseudo-hires rendering flush, Old 2xsai endian fix (anomie)
* Added 'oops' auto-snapshot support (anomie)
* Fixed usage messages (Unix) (anomie)
* Old split-ROM-in-zip bugfix (anomie)
* ./configure fix for detecting libpng (anomie)
* Fix "no PNG support" error message (anomie)
* Anomie's control remapping patch (anomie)
* Support for IPS patches in the zip file (anomie)
* OBC1 savestate fix (Overload)
* Fix turbo frameskip, X11 keyboard auto-repeat, VRAM reads (anomie)
* Add some missing ifdefs (UNZIP_SUPPORT and ZLIB), from AaronOneal (anomie)
* Config file for Unix/X11 and Unix/SVGA (anomie)
* CPU instruction fixes (mostly emulation mode & timing) (anomie)
* Mode 7 fixes (anomie)
* Rewrote the renderer. Enjoy! (anomie)
* Correct-ish memmap boundary testing. (anomie)
* Add support for saner directory structures under Unix (anomie)
* Unix: Fixed detection of newer libpng (spotted by vapier) (PBortas)
* Added 4-point gaussian interpolation and proper envelopes many thanks to Brad Martin and TRAC. (zones)
* Fixed several sound problems. (zones)
* Fixed the memory access problem in C++ Super FX core. (zones)
* Speed adjustment of C++ Super FX emulation. (zones)
* Various timing fixes: NMI, IRQ, WRAM refresh, cycles per line, HBlank start, etc. Many thanks to byuu for much information. (zones)
* Removed some game specific hacks. (zones)
* Added partial Satellaview (BS) emulation. (Dreamer Nom, zones)
* Added the Katakana font for onscreen messages. (107)
* Updated JMA to v1 (Nach)
* Unix: Fixed JMA options in config (Nach)
* Unix: Removed --with(out)-asmcpu option in config because the i386 assembler CPU core is out of date. (zones)
* Unix: Changed the default settings in config. (zones)
* Updated porting.html (porting.txt) in sync with 1.5. (zones)
* Fixed buffer over/under flow due to incorrect logical operator in S-RTC code (byuu)
* Fixed HDMA flags bug. (byuu, anomie)
* Fixed bugs causing crashing in Unix. (Nach)
* Ported Snes9x to AMD64. (John Weidman, Nach, zones)
* Completed DSP-1 code. (Andreas Naive, Overload, Nach)
* Updated DSP-3 code. (Nach, z80 gaiden)
* Updated DSP-4 code. (Dreamer Nom, Nach, z80 gaiden)
* Overhauled BS detection. (Nach)
* Improved Unix portability. (Nach, zones)
* Fixed infiniti loop and invalid read bug in C++ C4 core. (Nach)

[Miretank]

GREAT UPDATE, too bad it isn't for Win. Damn. :(

[NES_player4LIFE]

yes that bites

[NES_player4LIFE]

I mean seriously, this is like making a chocolate bar that everyone except diabetics are allergic to.

that's one way of Put'n it

[SWAT_Marc]

They must've come up with that idea of sheer brilliance in their sleep - "Lets kill off Windows support, despite that being our largest base of users" - what a great idea!

Way to kill off 98% of the people who would actually care Snes9x team. Only solidifys my favouritism of ZSnes. I mean seriously, this is like making a chocolate bar that everyone except diabetics are allergic to.

Although it affects me quite a lot (I don't use Linux or OSX), IMO they've done a great move against Microsoft monopoly.

Personally, since Vista req.-specs. and DRM policies were told I've considered moving to Linux or buying a MacBook.

If most Linux users keep Windows as a 2nd OS due to lack of games support, why not use Linux as an OS-for-emus (not literally, I think you'll get the point)?

[SWAT_Marc]

As for vista, get real... you're going to upgrade your PC eventually anyway, as far as DRM goes... nobody is forcing you to buy drm products (songs etc). People make a big deal out of nothing.

Well... I got my legal copy of XP when I bought my computer and I don't like the idea of being spied with the WGA. I think WGA is the visible part of the iceberg-like Vista.

And don't say it's lazyness. People seems to forget that most emus are done by people with real life and that they give them for free.

I'd like to see the comments if it was the OSX version the one not supported...

[WhiteX]

hence the 9x.

I don´t care if it comes out for Windows or Linux and i also don´t care about their reasons to do so, i always liked ZSnes better.

[Poobah]

Ah, the paranoia is setting in nicely in our society... the OSX version not supported would mean well, hrm... nothing because nobody would care. I'm off to believe every bit of negative press I see about anything... because I don't have a mind of my own... wooo!!

At the end of the day, you'll have vista on your system I bet and on that day I will laugh - but back to the point at hand, No windows version of Snes9x shuns 98% of the people who would've used it in the first place... hence why I complained, it isn't a tactic against microsoft so drop that argument... regardless if your general fanbase can't use your product (freeware is a product of sorts btw) then theres no point making it in the first place.

Quite frankly I don't like their attitude towards the windows port, they basically said they want someone else to do it for them. Snes9x's original purpose was a snes emulator FOR windows, that's the irony.You're right, but there's no reason to start flaming.

I always like ZSNES better, too. :)

[Doomulation]

The Windows port has been different from the other ports, which is why it needed a maintainer. But there is no maintainer, so they don't release it for windows. You could get the sourca and try to make it work... if the link to the source worked, that is.

[SWAT_Marc]

At the end of the day, you'll have vista on your system I bet and on that day I will laugh
I'm buying a Mac as soon as they release the new laptops with core2duo :).


Snes9x's original purpose was a snes emulator FOR windows, that's the irony.
You're right, I think that's fun.


I suppose since theres a port of OpenOffice for PC its a great move against the Linux world too isn't it? but wait... OpenOffice is also a third party app... my gosh! My point, it has nothing to do with getting revenge on Microsoft
Let's make a sequence...
1. Somebody has a Windows based PC (pirated Windows, of course, though he doesn't know/care).
2. He uses his PC to chat, surft the Internet, check his email, listen to his MP3, watch his videos, write some texts, etc.
3. At first he used his pirated version of MS Office (he can't afford paying for "just writing").
4. He discovers OpenOffice: he can do the SAME as he did with MS Office before.
5. He realizes he can do the SAME with a free SO, without being SPIED by a company, he won't be affected by virus, trojans, etc (I'm not saying Linux it's perfect, just that it isn't the target of hackers).
6. He can move to Linux without worries because he ALREADY knows how to use the software because he used them in Windows.

Yup, yup, I know it's not "good manners" dropping support of Windows release but, from my point of view, this could encourage some people to move to Linux (if it wasn't for some Adobe soft, I would).

[Lord Darkstorm]

I was under the impression it was simply that the people who used to work on the windows version were no longer there(I think the last was M Kendora, who left what...a year ago? 2 years?) And no one had come forward who had the time to work on this a lot, thus there is no windows update.

[SWAT_Marc]

I'll say it again, you're paranoid. If you think Microsoft are spying on you then you are deluded... do you really think they have the time to monitor the millions if not billions of people who use windows?

I'm comfortable with my legal copy (I doubt many people can say this) but also quite afraid of the rumours (in Spain we say "cuando el río suena es que agua lleva" which means more or less "if you hear some rumours is that they could probably be true").


what will they do to you if they are spying on you anyway? come arrest you? you're forgetting that Microsoft are not the police or the FBI they are just a corporation and they do not have that kind of power.
They say the next action MS could take is to block your comp if your Windows isn't legal. Of course they WON'T, because nobody could predict the results of such action.


From the very first day windows update was introduced people have thought Microsoft have been spying on them but nobody has been able to prove it. You're basing your entire belief against MS on some rumors. The Paranoid get more paranoid as time goes in reading news reports and other bullshit.
Microsoft admited spying http://www.google.es/search?q=ms+admits+wga


As for the virus thing, I won't deny that because Windows is so popular it is the target of a viral attack but you can put freeware anti-virus software on your pc anyway. Nobody is going to move over to linux because a couple of apps don't work on windows, get real there are alternatives that rival or beat anything that linux has.
Of course, but I can assure you some designers would think about switching to Linux if the Adobe suits were available for it. Adobe suits are more or less a "couple" of apps, and they have a HUGE base of loyal users.


ZSNES defeats SnesUnix(9x is now Unix imo) hands down.
I tried once ZSNES. I dunno wether it's better or worse, but the GUI is better in Snes9x (yes, because it's the same GUI as Windows apps).


Openoffice works on windows but I prefer office to be quite frank, its just better
Great point of view!!!! It's JUST better. Simply, clear... Nice! :)
You can read some reviews where they say that OpenOffice's Powerpoint is clearer and better than MS's one :).
I've been using OpenOffice since it was Sun's StarOffice 5.2 and NEVER regret not having used MS Office. I've only had a few issues with importing .doc, but nothing problematic. I've saved quite a lot of money and not lost productivity :)


Face it, windows aint going away and its pointless to argue about Linux vs Windows anyway.
Sadly true.


My final statement to you Swat_Marc is put your money where your mouth is and switch to a mac or linux now
I repeat: I'll do as soon as Apple introduces the new Intel Core2Duo in its laptops.


because you are clearly displeased with MS based on rumors and conjecture.
Check the link above.


I just think its stupid to abandon the Windows port when most of the people who used it are windows users.
Well... they do what they want, and if ZSNES is better...


End of rant and the end of my involvement in this thread - i've made my point and i'm sick of repeating myself to the paranoid.
Translation: I have The Reason, nobody else has!!!

[Doomulation]

6. He can move to Linux without worries because he ALREADY knows how to use the software because he used them in Windows.
First I must point out that you're assuming all PC users are men, which they are not.
Second of all, this is hardly encouraging for Windows users. They won't switch to Linux, instead they'll complain: "Why is there no windows version?!"
And heck, I would like to say they are right. No one should be forced to switch OSi f they do not want to.

[SWAT_Marc]

First I must point out that you're assuming all PC users are men, which they are not.
Second of all, this is hardly encouraging for Windows users. They won't switch to Linux, instead they'll complain: "Why is there no windows version?!"
And heck, I would like to say they are right. No one should be forced to switch OSi f they do not want to.
1. You want me to make clear difference between sex? Next time I'll put "she/he" instead, sorry :P

2. Yes, I know. It's more comfortable to stay stuck with the same, do what everybody does, why bother switching? Most users can do the same in Linux as in Windows (as I stated before). And, of course, nobody will move to Linux because of this emu.

[Miretank]

As someone said earlier (sorry I am too lazy to go back last page and see who said :P) this only makes Zsnes the favorite emulator for us Windows users. I don't why the snes9x team got that decision but, oh well, I like Snes9x. Too bad I'll have to stick it up with the 1.43 version. :/

[Doomulation]

1. You want me to make clear difference between sex? Next time I'll put "she/he" instead, sorry :P
You may also consider using terms such as "user" and "person" which are neutral.

And as stated earlier, the reason why there is no windows port is that there is no maintainer.

[Stezo2k]

Great news, now thats a lot of improvements :) shame its not for windows yet

hopefully it'll get ported

[spiderman3]

Well, If anyone REALLY cares about the windows port, they can do it themselves ( it is open source ). Personally, I dont care about windows, I run Linux ;P.

[Miretank]

Well, If anyone REALLY cares about the windows port, they can do it themselves ( it is open source ). Personally, I dont care about windows, I run Linux ;P.
Selfishness is a sin, isn't it? :P

[cooliscool]

Ah, the paranoia is setting in nicely in our society... the OSX version not supported would mean well, hrm... nothing because nobody would care. I'm off to believe every bit of negative press I see about anything... because I don't have a mind of my own... wooo!!

At the end of the day, you'll have vista on your system I bet and on that day I will laugh - but back to the point at hand, No windows version of Snes9x shuns 98% of the people who would've used it in the first place... hence why I complained, it isn't a tactic against microsoft so drop that argument... regardless if your general fanbase can't use your product (freeware is a product of sorts btw) then theres no point making it in the first place.

Quite frankly I don't like their attitude towards the windows port, they basically said they want someone else to do it for them. Snes9x's original purpose was a snes emulator FOR windows, that's the irony.

I completely agree with you.

[Toasty]

It's ironic, but I don't care too much one way or the other - gives me an excuse to set up a new Linux distro on my spare partition again.

[xamenus]

No, what they've done is sheer laziness, it has nothing to do with Microsoft Monopolys.You have no idea what you're talking about do you? They would have released a Windows port, but it's not easy for them to do that right now. I want a Windows port, too, but calling them "lazy" is a bit harsh. Snes9x 1.5 is a major release; they worked hard on it.

From what I understand, the Windows code and the core code were more or less inextricably bound, making it difficult to maintain. It will take a bit of an effort to get new Windows code separate from the core code.


ZSNES which is considerably better than Snes9x anyway.How would you know that? Have you tried Snes9x 1.5? From what I hear, it is a greatly improved version, with extensive CPU core updates and a new sound core. That means better compatibility, stability, and better sound (which is good news since Snes9x didn't have very good sound compared to other SNES emulators)

Oh, and I was recently told that the "9x" does not stand for "Windows 9x". A decade or so ago, two SNES emulators called "snes96" and "snes97" were merged into the emulator as we know it today, hence the "9x".

[Miretank]

Snes2k FTW :D

[WhiteX]

Have you tried Snes9x 1.5?

No, because it´s Linux only, if it was Win compatible,
all of us would have tested it.
I know that coders do that for themselves and ScottJC is a
little harsh sometimes and it can be a very good emulator but most of us won´t be able to use it.


Oh, and I was recently told that the "9x" does not stand for "Windows 9x". A decade or so ago, two SNES emulators called "snes96" and "snes97" were merged into the emulator as we know it today, hence the "9x".

I have never seen this information before, can you show where you took it?

[Clements]

I have never seen this information before, can you show where you took it?

It's fairly common knowledge.

[WhiteX]

Well, i did not knew that, i have only seen it as 9x, never saw any of the previous builds.

[Allnatural]

I should've closed this thread before it reached unbelievable levels of gheyness. My bad...

/closed

[Allnatural]

Nach wanted to chime in on the subject. Some info concerning the history of Snes9x:

http://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=119538#119538



I'll open the thread for a bit, in case anyone else wants to add something. Let's keep it civil please.

[Clements]

Your bahavoir was totally unacceptable, but as you retract it I won't think too much of it. I find that any unnecessary bashing of decent emulators or developers hard work very offensive, and this thread was locked and had no control over it, I would have replied to this thread otherwise or made a staff thread about it.

[WhiteX]

We have machines with power to run Snes9x on a Linux emulator for Windows, i think, why not give this bad boy (http://www.winlinux.net/) a ride.

[Stezo2k]

Time to close the thread me thinks, this has gotten a little out of hand tbh.

As for snes9x I doubt the snes9x team will abandon the windows port for long anyway, most of their users use windows so i'm sure they'll demand it enough. I'd personally like one myself but beggers cant be choosers eh?

i'll give that linux thing a try thanks :)

[ScottJC]

Better idea, clean out the trash a bit, i'll help by deleting my posts except this one from this thread. I apologize for any hurt feelings and retract all comments I made too. I'd delete this one too but I feel as though I have to leave an apology. We could do with a fresh start for this thread.

[Doomulation]

We have machines with power to run Snes9x on a Linux emulator for Windows, i think, why not give this bad boy (http://www.winlinux.net/) a ride.
It would actually help if the site worked and didn't spew out mysql errors. It can't be downloaded from there.
I tried a mirror but, what can I say? That installer was, like, borked. Literally. Is there not any other mirror? :/

[shadow dragon64]

yo dude that is a mad version i give a 7

[WhiteX]

It would actually help if the site worked and didn't spew out mysql errors. It can't be downloaded from there.
I tried a mirror but, what can I say? That installer was, like, borked. Literally. Is there not any other mirror? :/

Wikipedia has a link.

[Doomulation]

Bah! Is there no wrapper? I don't want to reboot just to use an emulator.

[smcd]

You could try installing linux into vmware or the like and running it inside there?

[Doomulation]

I thought of that, but it doesn't offer any kind of full screen so that's kinda annoying.

[synch]

I prefered to launch visual c and port it :D But don't get your hopes up, as I don't expect this to be finished soon, as I've got a major project in the works, that'll eat all my time (atleast, for the next 2 weeks).

[WhiteX]

Cool, very cool indeed.

[ScottJC]

I prefered to launch visual c and port it :D But don't get your hopes up, as I don't expect this to be finished soon, as I've got a major project in the works, that'll eat all my time (atleast, for the next 2 weeks).
That screenshot looks impressive, I would be quite happy to use a command line version if it supports the video and the sound. Great work hope to see a release of it!

[Miretank]

I am waiting for further info as well! :)

[synch]

Last night got sound working, so now "just" misses properly using the configuration (window sizes, number and assigning yoypads, etc).

[Stezo2k]

Great progress on a port :) looking forward to using it

[synch]

I fixed some bugs that arised from not looking the original makefiles (fixed Super Mario Kart 2), and added suport from SDD1 games (Street Fighter Alpha 2, for example). When I've time to properly test the joypads configuration, some minor glitches that I don't know if are my fault or the original sources and clean up the port sources a bit, I'll release. I don't know how much this will take :P

[Doomulation]

Whoa, but you're doing so much progress and with no windows port we'll be happy with anything you can give us - bugs or not!