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arnalion
May 19th, 2006, 14:03
Windows Vista will come in two versions, one core version and one premium.
I don't know if this is the recommended specs or if it's minimum. Well look at the specs and double/tripple it (usually works with everything :P) then will you probably be able to run it a little smooth.

Core version:
* 800 MHz processor
* 512 MB RAM-memory
* 15 GB free space
* A directx 9 compatible video card.

Premium:
* 1 Ghz processor
* 1 GB RAM-memory
* Video card with support for Pixel Shading 2.0 (directx 9 compatible)
* 128 MB video memory
* 15 GB free space
* DVD-reader
* Internet

Clements
May 19th, 2006, 14:07
You can also use this application from Microsoft to tell you if your PC can run Vista:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeadvisor/default.mspx

arnalion
May 19th, 2006, 14:36
Hehe must test...

EDIT: The program couldn't tell me if i could use Vista or not, well it's a microsoft beta program ^^. I'm sure i can run the OS anyway. But i can run Windows XP on a 300MHz PII with 64MB ram, but it's laggy. Many people will probably be able to run the OS but not smooth.

Miretank
May 19th, 2006, 16:26
I can run it. :)

Jakob
May 19th, 2006, 23:02
I'd go with the premium specs as the bare minimum for running vista, hell, winxp can get slow on 512MB of ram

arnalion
May 19th, 2006, 23:53
I'd go with the premium specs as the bare minimum for running vista, hell, winxp can get slow on 512MB of ram

Agrees. I think 512MB ram for XP is a must and 1024MB recommended ^^.

Jale
May 20th, 2006, 03:09
Awww, it's unavailable.

TerraPhantm
May 20th, 2006, 04:16
Damn... I'm going to have to upgrade to 2GB or maybe even 4, but having 1GB of fast ram is so nice..

Jale
May 20th, 2006, 05:41
I need to upgrade my DirectX 8.1 card and my 40 GB hard drive. 15 GB is just too much for an OS.

smcd
May 20th, 2006, 06:44
Yeah, 15GB for an OS is monstrous.

WhiteX
May 20th, 2006, 14:44
iīll wait for the first service pack but 15 GB for an OS...hell, thatīs big!

thepreserver
May 20th, 2006, 23:48
Yeah, imagine how long installing Windows Vista would take!:blink:

Flash
May 21st, 2006, 03:12
And... what you'll get with all that 15gigs ? Lots of software like with 3+ Gb linux installation ?
Nope. just lots of pictures ( eye candy is more important than OS stability, you know, and in MS they don't know about scalable vector graphics, they use bmp), useless components (and of course you can't remove them) You don't want all that useless shiny stuff and want to use ol' good 9x/NT/2K explorer ? You can, but you can't uninstall all that Aero,Luna,Marz,J00piter or whatever they call it.

And. I've updated linux - from KDE 3.3.0 to KDE 3.5.2, kernel 2.4.32 to 2.6.15 - well, +100 megs on HD and +12Mb RAM. No need to upgrade, right?

I've even installed MacOS X 10.4 Tiger on ancient PowerBook G4-400 w/ 80Gb HDD and 384M RAM.
Yes it was a bit slow, but with 768M RAM (+$50) it works just great.
Now we'll try Vista on P3-700/768/8M Rage 128. Yes, it will boot but it will be unusable.

Flash
May 21st, 2006, 03:14
Yeah, imagine how long installing Windows Vista would take!:blink:
10 hours i think - 3 hours to copy files, 7 hours to detect devices :D :D :D

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yegosimo
May 22nd, 2006, 06:02
i was able to run the beta 1 that i got somewhere on the net.. hehe
it isn't that awesome!

t0rek
May 22nd, 2006, 07:24
i was able to run the beta 1 that i got somewhere on the net.. hehe
it isn't that awesome!

Nope, is not! :P

Miretank
May 22nd, 2006, 12:28
15GB heh?
le big :(


10 hours i think - 3 hours to copy files, 7 hours to detect devices
LOL :D

Jakob
May 22nd, 2006, 16:46
the part about vista which I am most anticipating is the user permissions, ms has apparently finally pulled their heads out of their collective ass and implemented a unix-like permissions system, whether or not it'll work as advertised is another story, but it'd be nice to de-infest a machine of spyware by wiping a user account instead of the hdd

BoggyB
May 22nd, 2006, 20:27
Um, have you ever actually looked at Windows permissions? And we're talking a Windows NT based system with NTFS drives, not Windows 98 with FAT.

Windows by default allows you to set multiple per-user and per-group allow/deny permissions on every single object. It also distinguishes between inherited and explicit permissions. Linux, by default, gives you read/write/execute permissions for the file owner, the file group and everyone else (plus sticky bits).

How are Linux permissions "better" than Windows permissions?

t0rek
May 22nd, 2006, 21:03
Um, have you ever actually looked at Windows permissions? And we're talking a Windows NT based system with NTFS drives, not Windows 98 with FAT.

Windows by default allows you to set multiple per-user and per-group allow/deny permissions on every single object. It also distinguishes between inherited and explicit permissions. Linux, by default, gives you read/write/execute permissions for the file owner, the file group and everyone else (plus sticky bits).

How are Linux permissions "better" than Windows permissions?

I was going to tell the real facts but there's no point to argue with a moron

BoggyB
May 22nd, 2006, 21:54
Ok, what are the real facts?

If you mean the usual permission settings under Linux then fair enough, Linux has more secure settings (thanks to many many years of lazy Windows programmers). If you mean the internal permission system of Linux (rwxrwxrwx), then I would argue that Windows is better.

(for the record, when I refer to Windows permissions I am talking about NT, 2000, XP or 2003. Not 95, 98 or ME).

Doomulation
May 23rd, 2006, 08:49
Don't complain about lazy programmers. I've seen loads of things, some that are multi-system apps, that has terrible GUI. Now those are for linux also and terrible GUI is lazy.
Anyway, the real point is that there are always lazy programmers. If Linux were more popular than Windows, then Linux would get those lazy programmers.

arnalion
May 23rd, 2006, 14:17
15GB... 10GB DRM protections :D

yegosimo
May 25th, 2006, 03:00
15 GB ?? r u nuts??
lol .. my beta was like 4 GB n it took like an hour or an hour and a half (dont remember) to install ...

flow``
May 25th, 2006, 04:18
yegosimo/t0rek - no shit, it was the first beta rls'd. i'd expect a lack of optomizations/bugs in it

t0rek
May 25th, 2006, 07:03
Why are you referring to me flow`` ? I haven't tested the Beta. And if you check the reviews of the CTP releases that came after the first Beta you will notice that there's a lot of improvement of course

Doomulation
May 25th, 2006, 12:02
It doesn't mean it will install 15 gb on the HD, but windows requires it to work properly by spamming a lot of crap on your HD.

Miretank
May 25th, 2006, 16:35
15GB for the temp files, LOL what a big amount of crap XD

i don't want vista cuz its greenie. :(

flow``
May 25th, 2006, 20:25
t0rek.. my bad... but wtf, i swear i saw a post of you and yegosimo bashing beta 1 for bugs/performance unless i'm mixing up threads or something. my appologies

_Zack_
May 26th, 2006, 00:15
I cant wait for Vista! Dont like the idea of having 10 - 15gb for temp files though!