Will a new N64 emulator come into being? [Archive]

conkerman

March 13th, 2002, 10:33

actually, just from memory, VTT has been working on an emulator (i've never talked to him, but i've read his posts and was at the future website) and a few weeks ago, i think Grant (not sure if thats the right name) mentioned he's working on an emulator and he got a beta tester or two.
as for existing emulators, new versions will come. nemu .8, new 1964 (but not for a while probably since we got a release recently), apollo is progressing (azi's takin some time off now, but he'll do more audio and his opengl plugin), tr64 is also(slowly) i think, and daedalus will be worked on.
wow, that was longer than expected, hope it helps some one
conkerman

Slougi

March 13th, 2002, 11:41

Hmm i don't think VTT's emu is for real. He said he would release a beta to beta testers (me) around christmas, and i have not heard of him since.

Smiff

March 13th, 2002, 12:00

If that VTT guy's emu is real I'll eat my shorts, and post a picture of myself eating said shots on said forum.

Slougi

March 13th, 2002, 12:04

lol
i really do hope that this emu is real, i don't wanna see smiff eting his shorts :P:D

Smiff

March 13th, 2002, 13:06

yeah, shit I just realised, it's not quite certain enough.

Engeljaeger

March 13th, 2002, 18:51

Hmmm...in most cases the old veteran emus stay the best ones as long as they are continued...
I think it won´t take long the emu scene will give the next gen consoles a try (X-Box, PS2, NGC)
And I fear the N64-emu-scene might slowly die then... :(
I don´t hope so of course...

@ Smiff: Tastes très bien with chinese pepper ;) :P

Dominator

March 13th, 2002, 20:10

I think it won´t take long the emu scene will give the next gen consoles a try (X-Box, PS2, NGC)

Xbox for PC? What would be the point? Emus on Xbox? maybe but you'll get better ones on PC anyway.
PS2? For a start, I wish them good luck with the 128 bit RISC (MIPS IV-subset, 64 bits via 2-way Superscalar) CPU Core.
NGC? Ho ho .. no, no, no.

However, the NES and SuperNes are dead for ages and those "scenes" are still quite alive.
Same applies for all of these Motorola 680X0 platforms based emus.

Zoomer

March 14th, 2002, 05:43

I thought Daedalus was looking the most promising up until a few or more months ago, he was releasing new versions every week or so for a good period of time. You could see it progress very well, and I think it was the second emulator to run Majora's Mask. Daedalus, where are you?!!!

Quvack

March 14th, 2002, 05:48

I'm very sure that we will see new n64 emulators :) No doubt about it actually ;) but when is another question :alien:

btw, Daedalus is currently having a break being developed because its author is really busy developing other stuff for his real-life job.

muff_699

March 14th, 2002, 06:54

Originally posted by Engeljaeger

I think it won´t take long the emu scene will give the next gen consoles a try (X-Box, PS2, NGC)
And I fear the N64-emu-scene might slowly die then... :(
I don´t hope so of course...

@ Smiff: Tastes très bien with chinese pepper ;) :P

Dude i love my N64 but i hope they do come out with an X-box er ng2 or PS2,,,cause they are beter

but Snes still remains the best:alien:

Smiff

March 14th, 2002, 07:09

I agree with Dominator on this, the N64 emu "scene" has some of the best support & popularity ever, and the more advanced systems are going to be seriously seriously hard to emulate... people wanting to play PS2 games on their PCs, by the time it's even slightly done you'll have moved onto the PS3 or 4 i reckon.

gokuss4

March 14th, 2002, 09:25

i bet ya new n64 emu's are in the making right now and some people are doing it right now by having all the roms of n64 and testing all of them and making sure that is is perfect for opengl video card users right now. well hopefully :p kinda like what uhle did when it first came out it could play some n64 games no problem and it used glide. well im hoping someone is doing that and it comes out by....

2003 ;)

entity1

March 14th, 2002, 16:27

playstaion 2 emus

they will come dude but not for 2 maybe 3 years if someone could take a few years like developing a game for a emu then it would save all these addons here in there but i think there will be ps2 emus around in 2 years time but they want be very sharp.

ps most wanted ps2 emulation if roms

1.metal gear solid 2
2.legends of wrestling
3.devil may cry
4.pro evolution soccer
5.smackdown just bring it
6.blade 2
7.virtua tennis 2
8.jax and daxter
9.driver 3
10.max payne

ps. i dont mean roms obviously because you will need a dvd drive but that is one thing good for ps2 emulation unlike dreamcast

develop a ps2 emulator plz anyone who knows emulation but keep it behind closed doors unless you want the sony crimesquad at your door lol

:pj64:

AMDRULES

March 14th, 2002, 17:57

Hello. Going back to the Xbox, PS2 emu subject, what kind of hardware would it take to run an emulator for them? I mean, I have a dual Athlon 1700+ system with 512MB Crucial DDR memory, and Goldeneye still bogs it down. You would probably need a 4ghz or more CPU to run an Xbox emulator. Why does it take so much PC horse power to run an emulator? I am ignorant about the inner workings of them, so someone enlighten me.

sk8bloke22

March 14th, 2002, 20:38

most likely, to play xbox games, ull need a series of hacks or something, rather than an emulator of the console, as its got some sorta MS OS built into it (I assume) and the games are developed pretty much like a pc.

forget ur ps2 emu, possible for about 4-5years as its taken almost longer than that to get a working saturn emulator, and of wat im aware of, theres only 1 which has a small library of working games.

ps2 is much harder to develop for than a psONE as the hardware is WAY more complicated. its gonna take a long to emulate something like that.

AMDRULES

March 14th, 2002, 21:50

But I mean, why does it take so much computer horsepower to emulate seemingly less sophisticated console hardware?

VTT

March 14th, 2002, 23:10

Only I began to pursue last week stably to work above Nitn64. Therefore I have updated seat of a site. I promised much and I am going to constrain the word. I solve a problem with savings of resources, I managed to disassemble a riddle why "Corn" is so fast in work. Very early in the work above Nitn64 I was keen to create the emulator n64 from 100 % compatibility. To me wrote messages, that 100 % compatibility to create not probably, but I pursued opposite opinion. Already for a long time I have written email Niki Waibel and it has answered me, it too as well as I wrote, that 100 % are possible for creating, it would make it and itself but he does not have on it time. I understand, that I am in actual time in the back and to get out of back to me it will be possible only after time. But I nevertheless pursue to work above Nitn64. I remember all testers, I have list of names.

Sorry translation...

VTT

March 14th, 2002, 23:25

Sorry guys:
Slougi
Zeus

misery

March 14th, 2002, 23:30

As far as emulation for next gen emus, PS2 will likely not be as hard as some of the other new systems. We'll probably see something in the next year and a half that'll play the tittle screen for a game or two and a whole bunch of useless "demos". The development kits for that system are rather complicated, so it wont be as simple as the original PS when Bleem! was made - way back when. Basically, if you can run information from a PS2 disk or an X-Box disk on a computer (which you can, piracy already exists) you'll be able to emulate it eventually. Sometimes there are some mysteries that never get solved (like how long it took to figure out the SegaCD, and as far as I know that's still a mystery - but that's a whole OTHER rant).
What I'm figuring will be the most difficult to emulate will be the Gamecube... since the disks are multilayered (like how a DVD is dual-layered... only more) and are therefore impossible to read on our current computers. X-Box will be fairly easy, as aforementioned, since the games are developed among the same methods as PC games.
What it all boils down to is interest. If people want these emus badly enough someone will figure it out.

AMDRULES

March 14th, 2002, 23:50

That sounds cool, VTT. Where do we sign up?

VTT

March 15th, 2002, 01:14

Originally posted by AMDRULES
That sounds cool, VTT. Where do we sign up?

The sound and video create the big load on system, but it can be won. It is not necessary to copy the same code of times behind time and to give out it for new. I write a code which does not concern separately to video or a sound, I am concerned only with operation with memory, it should clean failures in speed of the emulator. But I shall give nevertheless to you a choice of a sound format.

VTT

March 15th, 2002, 01:19

In the spring 2002 test Nitn64a, in two versions will be held.

VTT

March 15th, 2002, 01:28

Originally posted by misery
As far as emulation for next gen emus, PS2 will likely not be as hard as some of the other new systems. We'll probably see something in the next year and a half that'll play the tittle screen for a game or two and a whole bunch of useless "demos". The development kits for that system are rather complicated, so it wont be as simple as the original PS when Bleem! was made - way back when. Basically, if you can run information from a PS2 disk or an X-Box disk on a computer (which you can, piracy already exists) you'll be able to emulate it eventually. Sometimes there are some mysteries that never get solved (like how long it took to figure out the SegaCD, and as far as I know that's still a mystery - but that's a whole OTHER rant).
What I'm figuring will be the most difficult to emulate will be the Gamecube... since the disks are multilayered (like how a DVD is dual-layered... only more) and are therefore impossible to read on our current computers. X-Box will be fairly easy, as aforementioned, since the games are developed among the same methods as PC games.
What it all boils down to is interest. If people want these emus badly enough someone will figure it out.

Summer 2002 - the project "EMMA", I shall look for co-authors for the project. I already now try to work above it in part. It does not concern to PSX2.

Engeljaeger

March 15th, 2002, 02:44

:plain: Don´t forget sleeping, eating, screwing and stuff...
A dead emu-author is a bad emu-author I think ;)
:devil:

Davemc

March 15th, 2002, 03:23

Originally posted by AMDRULES
Hello. Going back to the Xbox, PS2 emu subject, what kind of hardware would it take to run an emulator for them? I mean, I have a dual Athlon 1700+ system with 512MB Crucial DDR memory, and Goldeneye still bogs it down. You would probably need a 4ghz or more CPU to run an Xbox emulator. Why does it take so much PC horse power to run an emulator? I am ignorant about the inner workings of them, so someone enlighten me.

Use 1964 and Goldeneye will run at full speed (along with Perfect Dark)

misery

March 15th, 2002, 03:32

yes, x-box is a piece of shit.
My god, I hope Nintendo comes back with a vengence. I've lost so much interest in Videogames since Snes was around. N64 does have some of the best games of all time... but what ever happened to the industry?

Engeljaeger

March 15th, 2002, 04:07

Is the X-Box really that shitty?
I´m a Nintendo veteran since the NES (with the age of 6 :p ) so I always hope for Nintendo to get onto the conole-throne again...
But what I saw of the X-Box (only pics and videos) looked pretty good...well...the PS2 IS shitty...I only saw three games on it...at first I thought it was the Dreamcast...and another game looked like one from the PSone...anyway...

Davemc

March 15th, 2002, 04:21

everyone who likes games will always choose gamecube but people who dont know noting about games will go for ps2 and xbox

those kinda people pis me off

although i must admit i think gta3 on ps2 is amazing

Engeljaeger

March 15th, 2002, 04:41

"...although i must admit i think gta3 on ps2 is amazing..."

- Of course...every system has its pearls...Final Fantasy 10 would be the only reason for me to buy the PS2 (although I cannot imagin it could reach the atmosphere of FF3, FF4, or FF6 ;) )
But on those systemss it´s only third party companys which bring out those pearls...
On Nintendo´s consoles Nintendo itself always brought out the pearls themself...so you can be sure there will always be great games for Nintendo-consoles...
In addition Nintendo got RARE under it´s skirt and now even Squaresoft again :D

And Nintendo, in my opinion did right not supporting DVD-Videos on the Gamecube...if I want to watch DVDs, I take a DVD-player and not that shitty, fu**ing expensive PS2
If I wanna play games, and that´s what the sense of a "console-life" should be, I take a machine by my beloved Nintendo :D - "leave luck to heaven"(that´s what nintendo means, right?) - and leave console-gaming to NINTENDO!!! :D
(wow...I should become a politician ;) ...only my english has to get much better :P)

Davemc

March 15th, 2002, 05:07

thats what i was gonna say in my last post but i couldnt be bothered

pj64er

March 15th, 2002, 07:28

Originally posted by Engeljaeger
"leave luck to heaven"(that´s what nintendo means, right?) - and leave console-gaming to NINTENDO!!! :D

err...no.

afaik nintendo means "hands of god" or "god's hands".

also:
sega comes from SErvice and GAmes,
microsoft means small software,
and sony means..umm...sony.

Blownbybubbles

March 16th, 2002, 09:18

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!GAME CUBE SUUUUCCCCCCKSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gamecube is for little kids.It sucks.Give me 5 bad ass games for it like GTA3.XBOX rules!!!!!!!!PS2 rules!!!!!!!!!!!GAMECUBE SUCKS.End of the story.:devil:

AMDRULES

March 16th, 2002, 10:12

Idiot. Go back to your l33t AOL chat room.

Engeljaeger

March 16th, 2002, 17:31

Originally posted by Blownbybubbles
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!GAME CUBE SUUUUCCCCCCKSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gamecube is for little kids.It sucks.Give me 5 bad ass games for it like GTA3.XBOX rules!!!!!!!!PS2 rules!!!!!!!!!!!GAMECUBE SUCKS.End of the story.:devil:

wtf???!!! :pissed:
1. There are not only kiddie-games on the gamecube!!!
2. Some of those kiddie-games are the best games ever! (Mario 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64, etc...)
3. You may say you don´t like the gamecube...anyway...
JUST DON´T INSULT US - WE DON´T REALLY LIKE THAT!!! And I think Martin doesn´t either...

Hope you get banned, "Blownbyadmin" ;)
:devil:

pj64er

March 16th, 2002, 17:42

Originally posted by Blownbybubbles
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!GAME CUBE SUUUUCCCCCCKSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gamecube is for little kids.It sucks.

lol, and this from a guy called 'blownbybubbles' ?

honestly, if u cant see through nintendo's cute exterior, u r prolly not a mature gamer. general rule is, when u feel like gore/violence (everyone needs some sometimes), look to ps2, when u feel like good gameplay, look to GC, when u feel like taking a crap, look to xbox.

Engeljaeger

March 16th, 2002, 18:02

Yeah...
I know more adults playing "kiddie-games" than kids...
In fact it´s the kids that always want the brutal games because it´s sooooo cooooool ;)

--------

quote:
"when u feel like taking a crap, look to xbox."
Is it really that bad???

Slougi

March 16th, 2002, 18:04

Not really. I played a few games on X-Box and kinda liked it. I like the idea of having a HDD in a console, no more mem card hassle.

Harteex

March 16th, 2002, 19:26

I don't see why most people hates Xbox in here...

I also say there are no bigger difference between misery, dayve and Blownbybubbles (pj64er, should I count you too here?). Difference is that they are on different sides of the "console war" (and saying their opinions in different ways).

I think all consoles are good, but the games that comes to Xbox interests me most.

entity1

March 16th, 2002, 20:42

hey yo let me tell you summa punk

my first ever console was a sega master system alex the kidd built in sonic and some ninja game whic was good but when i played my cousins n.e.s and mario i was astonished at the playability it bet sonic hands down.

but that aint irrelevent what is is the fact that xbox is publicity created more hype than any other computer games console why you ask because hte man who heads the company is supposedly the richest smartest person in the world and very well known think it as this would someone just say shigeru miyamoto get so much hype i dont think so because nintendo and sony prove there great work without making publicity statements as for the one game actually two which will make me by a xbox and gamecube is wwf wrestlemania 18 and wwf raw is war for xbox to extreme killer apps better than your pointless i hit him i hit you crap in those feeble square final fantasy games i mean who wants to kill a killer plant if you think that mario is imature check final fantasy idiot.http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/screens/0,10865,2842638-5,00.html

Smiff

March 16th, 2002, 20:54

Originally posted by Slougi
Not really. I played a few games on X-Box and kinda liked it. I like the idea of having a HDD in a console, no more mem card hassle.

I don't. I don't think there should be any moving parts in games consoles. Yes that includes optical drives (but i don't see a viable alternative storage). My NES still works, and I bet in 15 years your new console won't (not that we'll be around in 15 years to take that up :p) Having an HDD wouldn't matter if you could get it fixed real quick, at no cost, no hassle and w/o losing your content. That's what's so very nice about NES, SNES, N64, except the former's cart slot and the latter's analogue stick, theyre very durable. What are you meant to do, buy two x-boxes so you know you'll have one that works when you want it?

Blownbybubbles

March 16th, 2002, 21:27

Im sorry if i came on to strong with my point i just do not like gamecube.And you guys dont give XBOX a chance.I have not found any game as good as Halo on gamecube.XBOX has the most memory the best graphics.Those are known facts.

Martin

March 16th, 2002, 21:36

Originally posted by Blownbybubbles
Im sorry if i came on to strong with my point i just do not like gamecube.And you guys dont give XBOX a chance.I have not found any game as good as Halo on gamecube.XBOX has the most memory the best graphics.Those are known facts.

Well, most people who are here are into Nintendo and therefore we're probably biased towards Big N and its consoles. Slightly. :P

Smiff

March 16th, 2002, 21:38

No im not buying any of them, yet anyway. "the most memory the best graphics.Those are known facts" yeah, known to people who have no clue about the facts maybe, gawd. whats the point of coming and saying a dipshit thing like that, the only people's opinions i'd be interested in hearing are those of the developers, and from what little ive heard the GCN is not weak, Nintendo are probably going for a 10 year lifespan on that. God I love Nintendo, they're such a god damn great games company. I think i'll buy a 'Cube, spend £150 on beer and drink to how god damn great Nintendo is.

Davemc

March 16th, 2002, 21:41

Originally posted by entity1
hey yo let me tell you summa punk

my first ever console was a sega master system alex the kidd built in sonic and some ninja game whic was good but when i played my cousins n.e.s and mario i was astonished at the playability it bet sonic hands down.

but that aint irrelevent what is is the fact that xbox is publicity created more hype than any other computer games console why you ask because hte man who heads the company is supposedly the richest smartest person in the world and very well known think it as this would someone just say shigeru miyamoto get so much hype i dont think so because nintendo and sony prove there great work without making publicity statements as for the one game actually two which will make me by a xbox and gamecube is wwf wrestlemania 18 and wwf raw is war for xbox to extreme killer apps better than your pointless i hit him i hit you crap in those feeble square final fantasy games i mean who wants to kill a killer plant if you think that mario is imature check final fantasy idiot.http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/screens/0,10865,2842638-5,00.html

u ever heard of full stops?

booker t sux

entity1

March 16th, 2002, 21:42

the hard dik in the xbox is a money generator i mean if they didnt put it in there the xbox would be near the £200.00 mark not any lower because of the broadband connection i mean it is in there not for you but for mr bill gates to earn more money than there competitors because nintendo and sony dont have them there because they think it will attract casual gamers to the plate. .

and for the dude who said nintendo is childish i dare you to try and complete the games zelda mario banjo ect because they are harder than your metal gear solids and others and a true game player will marvel at nintendos class work while a two bit punk who thinks just because you can steal a car blow up some police vechiles doesnt make it a better challenge than nintendos classics.

hey yo i aint getting a cube because it is £150.00 cheaper than xbox iam getting it because it will be the best console ever
because it has no loose ends you no what you are getting and have always with nintendo fun testing enjoyable gameplay and a nice little cube that can produce not the best graphics but the most pushed to limits graphics with xbox ranting about there specs show me them then i havent seen one killer app apart from one no not halo wwf raw is war that is the only reason i will probably eat my words and by an xbox for that alone being able to attack wrestlers in their entrances steal there ring attire kurt angles medals 3d through tables the whole shabang but it might change because wwf wrestlemania for the cube looks my god 10 times better head over to gamespot and have a look it is truly amazing but iam getting a cube also for rogue leader pikmin luigis mansion star fox dinasour planet there is tons of great games for cube i cant wait till may i will be at my local computer store itching for it to take home.

P.S the gamecube controller rocks dudes
so does pj64 fuck nemu it to slow

:pj64: :pj64: :pj64:

Davemc

March 16th, 2002, 21:43

xbox might the most powerfula nd most memory and fuck knows what else but its the games that count

cant wait till gamecube comes out

h-e-l-l-o

March 16th, 2002, 21:52

Originally posted by dayve
xbox might the most powerfula nd most memory and fuck knows what else but its the games that count

cant wait till gamecube comes out

Me too:)

AMDRULES

March 16th, 2002, 21:58

Quote from Smiff:

No im not buying any of them, yet anyway. "the most memory the best graphics.Those are known facts" yeah, known to people who have no clue about the facts maybe, gawd. whats the point of coming and saying a dipshit thing like that, the only people's opinions i'd be interested in hearing are those of the developers, and from what little ive heard the GCN is not weak, Nintendo are probably going for a 10 year lifespan on that. God I love Nintendo, they're such a god damn great games company. I think i'll buy a 'Cube, spend £150 on beer and drink to how god damn great Nintendo is.

Amen Bro. Nintendo kicks much ass.

entity1

March 16th, 2002, 21:59

all those people who bought the xbox i feel your sorrow i had a similar argument with myself after buying a playstation 2

i swapped my dreamcast and got money of my ps2 got gta3
what a game but eventually i felt nostalga iam doing the same thing all the time killing people stealing cars and felt imature because it is only a video game and i so sense took my ps2 and 150 quid to a good pc retailer engineer friend of mine and got my pc a amd duron 700 384 mb ram geforce2 and got back to playing marios and felt like a saint it was a revelation god said put that dam piece of shit playstation 2 down and get a pc and emulate the great n64 and i did and here iam today with no looking back on that worthless playstation 2 and in 2 months i will be holding a little gift from the heavens the nintendo gamecube lol

P.S i will come to bury your xbox at the graveyard dude i feel your sorrow lol lol

pj64 is the best emulator ever until someone brave enough emulates the cube:pj64: :pj64: :pj64:

Remote

March 16th, 2002, 22:01

Originally posted by entity1

so does pj64 fuck nemu it to slow

:pj64: :pj64: :pj64:

Comments like those are unneccesary, Nemu is a great emulator and the last released version, 0.7a, still runs some games better then most emulators released after it...

entity1

March 16th, 2002, 22:06

iam sorry for my comments but in every way pj64 is better than nemu from the design the settings the graphics everything and i get like 70-80 fps a sec on wwf no mercy but in nemu it goes like 20-25.:pj64: :pj64: :pj64:

entity1

March 16th, 2002, 22:11

hello

hey see these gameshark codes how do you enter them because i got a hell in a cell one for no mercy but it is nearly a page long and can you not just cut and paste?

and i got one for wooden table at ringside but it looks like you standing in thin air but you can see the table it is at floor height

pj64er

March 17th, 2002, 00:33

Originally posted by Harteex
I don't see why most people hates Xbox in here...

I also say there are no bigger difference between misery, dayve and Blownbybubbles (pj64er, should I count you too here?). Difference is that they are on different sides of the "console war" (and saying their opinions in different ways).

I think all consoles are good, but the games that comes to Xbox interests me most.

/me remembers that Harteex is the Xbox defender from a few months back.

also, not everyone here hates Xbox, its just that Xbox supporters usually comes in with a F**k GC!, F**k PS2, Xbox r0x!. That would obviously bring on the wrath of the others.

So...we (at least me) dont hate Xbox, we just hate certain types of Xbox supporters (the ignorant ones who are only capable of reciting specs).

Gamer123

March 17th, 2002, 01:38

Its good that we're having an intellectual discussion on consoles. But Ill be up front about it, Im gonna most definitely buy an XBox this summer. But what I hate is how people are trying to say "Xbox is Bill Gates's way of making more money" I think those childish remarks. Besides, Microsoft has always been in the gaming business ever since they started, its just they now want to extend to console gaming. Whats wrong with that? I mean they've made a next generation console here, and all you guys can do is try to insult Bill Gates about it. Even if money is Bill Gates's prime motivation (which i doubt [he is a frickin billionare]) he did a good job with it. You gotta give it credit, it has a hard drive, cd ripper, dvd player, and of course a wonderful console all in one. Who cares what the motive is, as long as you're getting your money's worth thats all that matters. The Gamecube isnt a bad console itself, but Ive been wanting an Xbox ever since its name was announced a few years ago.

adi

March 17th, 2002, 02:14

yes, the xbox is technologically amazing and has some great games for it. However I'm only really excited about one launch title: halo, which is coming out for the pc with better graphics etc. As a matter of fact, I must say for all time classics, the PC is one of the best (deus ex, medal of honor etc) along with the n64 which I only truly appreciated through emulation ;)

But despite all this, I do believe microsoft deserve some success, their publicity campaign has been amazing. I want nintendo to succeed but if they don't get some mainstream publicity soon, then they might as well give up now. No-one raises an eyelid when arthouse cinema fails to do as well as mainstream blockbusters, why should't it apply to the game industry?

entity1

March 17th, 2002, 02:37

i would just like to say that i have been watching t.v and these weird adverts come on i think it is a playstation 2 advert but in fact it is a xbox advertisement it kinda sucked because you are used to seeing the third place now we see play more advert for xbox trying to bring people from reality into a new reality which they have never been glued to like me but i welcome it now i have to say i will probably not be on this forum for much longer i will probably sell this pc for a xbox but that is only if raw is war is any scope and you can by region decoders so you can play it on a uk xbox but i doubt that will work because the reason they dont do that they get more money from diffrent countrys especially the eu and britain so my only resolution would be to wait and save up for 4 months and get a uk xbox and uk raw is war but by that time nintys cube will be out and cheaper i wish that microsoft made versions of the xbox with a hard drive and broadband connection and one without the i could probably get the console for the same price as a playstation 2 and cube but anyway i guess we see i will probably just get a cube and xbox to solve the problem:pj64: :pj64: :pj64: :pj64: