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t0rek
December 10th, 2005, 08:57
I'm suspecting that my HDD has a few bad sectors. Windows's scandisk/chkdsk tool is to slow and crappy to use. Does anyone know about a good program to check the HDD surface for bad sectors and disable them? Any help would be really aprecciated...
UPDATE: Tried the Windows Scandisk tool and it advance a little and then the PC freezes, so I need a really strong program...
smcd
December 10th, 2005, 14:15
I'd vouch for older versions of Norton Disk Doctor (version 3 for Win9x) but newer ones seem to be piss poor (same goes for all their tools norton/symantec).
GCFreak
December 10th, 2005, 18:43
You can disable them but Windows XP can't stand Bad-Sectors, therefore you will have to get a New HDD.
t0rek
December 10th, 2005, 18:56
I downloaded a tool called Seatools from Seagate site, it just diagnostic HDDs but it doesn't fix the problems. Actionally I only have a bad sector on the whole HDD, but I need a tool to find it and fix. Or a tool that let me mark that sector as bad because Seatools showed me the sector number. What do you recommend?
@sethmcdoogle: yeah, I'm agree, old NDD was great, but nowadays is very crappy, and I don't know if the old NDD is compatible with Windows XP
GCFreak
December 11th, 2005, 00:08
Did you even read my post? You need to get a new HDD, or else you will have serious problems with Windows XP. There is absolutely no way to get rid of bad sectors.
t0rek
December 11th, 2005, 09:21
Did you even read my post? You need to get a new HDD, or else you will have serious problems with Windows XP. There is absolutely no way to get rid of bad sectors.
Yeah I did, you newbie...
After all Seatools was able to fix bad sectors (well mark them as bad).
This tool seems to work with all HDDs. If you guys ever come with a problem like mine, I recommend it...
GCFreak
December 11th, 2005, 17:55
I'm not a newbie, I have almost 400 posts.
t0rek
December 11th, 2005, 21:01
I'm not a newbie, I have almost 400 posts.
985 here... So? a higher number of posts doesn't mean you are a better member, or you are not a newbie, a member could have 5000 posts and still be a newbie and a spammer. BTW, you arrived here some months ago, and arrived here years ago.
So why I'm telling you are a newbie? I didn't pay atention to your post, because is totally ilogical. Windows XP can stand HDD bad sectors. In fact if you use your PC and the data never "gets" into the bad sector yor PC would run normally and without troubles. The problem comes when data "goes" to the bad sector, if that's the case you'l get data corruption of the file, or Windows may not boot.
But just one bad sector on the whole HDD is not the end of the world. I've been using PCs since DOS 5.1 was around. I'm pretty sure there's people here with more experience than me, that would tell you that one bad sector in a HDD is not bad. A lot of them is a serious problem, and means your HDD is considerably damaged and needs to be changed. If I get a lot of bad sectors I OBVIOUSLY will change my HDD
In fact a bad sector never gets fixed, the program just mark it as bad, and in the future the system won't use it to storage data. So it would not cause trouble because it won't ever be used again. So just a sector of a whole HDD means nothing...
zAlbee
December 12th, 2005, 03:24
Way to tell it t0rek ;).
Try Scandisk again. It will fix errors when it can. It is supposed to take a long time, but it's not normal for it to crash in the middle... Are you using the mode where Scandisk loads at the beginning of a boot?
t0rek
December 12th, 2005, 05:44
Thanks for the help zAlbee, but I already fixed the problem using Seatools from Seagate. I used the one that boots from a CD into DOS, and fixed the problem without freezing. After the problem was fixed, I runned Chkdsk (scandisk and chkdsk are the saem thing, MS just changed the name with WinXP) and runned out the test without problems. I must give credit to Psyman for the advices and help he gaven on IRC. This Seatools proggie works with any other HDD as well, not only with Seagate's ones. I really recommend it. Here's the link, for the record...
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/
Falcon4ever
December 12th, 2005, 16:35
Did you even read my post? You need to get a new HDD, or else you will have serious problems with Windows XP. There is absolutely no way to get rid of bad sectors.
That's a typically newbie reply.
Bad sectors can be marked. So there is no need to buy a new HD because your HD has a few bad sectors...
Nice to see you fixed your problem t0rek
Trotterwatch
December 12th, 2005, 16:44
GCFreak is turning being wrong into quite a habit :D Gamecube 128bit discussion et al.
GCFreak
December 12th, 2005, 18:52
Can you guys please stop teasing me? I don't want to get angry and get banned all because I was wrong about something.
Falcon4ever
December 12th, 2005, 19:34
Then don't reply ;) on stuff you don't know...
t0rek
December 12th, 2005, 21:59
Thanks for the support guys ;)
xneoangel
December 13th, 2005, 04:58
I need some help, i have some problems with my HDD too i ran the SeaTools and it fixed the Bad Sectors but it still says i have some problems with the File System and i ran CHKDSK, it fixed some stuff but SeaTools still says i have problems with the file system, do you guys know of program that can fix those errors?
It'd be preferable if it was a program that runs out of windows because when i try to run Norton Disk Doctor it says that the OS has exclusive access to some files in the drive and it doesnt run i can only run CHKDSK or programs outside of windows.
Thanks in advance.
t0rek
December 13th, 2005, 05:01
Try chkdsk to do a boot-time scan...
xneoangel
December 13th, 2005, 05:06
I already tried CHKDSK but its too crappy SeaTools still says i have some File System problems, and i dont know what program to use.
In fact not even CHKDSK runs inside of windows it says the same thing as Norton Disk Doctor i can only run it trough a boot-time scan thats why im asking for a program that runs outside of windows trough a bootable disk or something.
t0rek
December 13th, 2005, 07:10
I already tried CHKDSK but its too crappy SeaTools still says i have some File System problems, and i dont know what program to use.
In fact not even CHKDSK runs inside of windows it says the same thing as Norton Disk Doctor i can only run it trough a boot-time scan thats why im asking for a program that runs outside of windows trough a bootable disk or something.
Seatools definetly states on its documentation that only diagnoses File Syetem problems of FAT32 or NTFS but doesn't fix them. No matter if you are using NDD or chkdsk, they are able to to boot-time scan. If they ask for a boot-time scan just say "Yes" and chkdsk/ndd will scan and fix your file system problem before Windows finish booting. It's no use to get a proggie to fix the problems outside Windows then.
I think Windows can't scan your drive because is the partition where Windows is installed. So it's impossible to scan the file system that way. Just "say yes" to ndd or chkdsk boot-time scan question and restart windows, and watch it work...
xneoangel
December 13th, 2005, 15:45
Ok i but when i say yes to NDD's request to boot-time scan what scans the drive is CHKDSK not NDD.
And as i said before CHKDSK doesnt fix the problems that Seatools shows me.
t0rek
December 13th, 2005, 20:42
dunno then... Try taking your HDD to another PC. Then boot from that PC and scan the disk from there. It should let you scan the disk...
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